Be Excellent To Each Other

tl:dr

"Of course 99% of stuff is going to be shit, especially stuff in a fantasy setting"

I did actually read it.

Your latter statement there is bobbins, by the way.

I think it's quite hard to do stuff in a fantasy setting that makes it good if that fantasy setting is the main driver of the plot. Take Game of Thrones (TV series): it's a book in a fantasy universe, yet the plot is primarily driven by the interactions outside of that setting, namely the political shiftings. BSG as well, as much as I've seen is more paranoia driven than "WE'RE IN SPACE FIGHTING ROBOTS!", and I don't think it suffers from it. Walking Dead suffers as the fantasy universe is the vehicle for the plotlines.

Whether this is because people are better at writing about stuff they've experienced or can research, or maybe we haven't had sufficient fights with robots, the undead, or dragons yet to be able to write decently about it, I dunno. Or, maybe, better writers don't write fantasy?

The comics of Walking Dead are about exactly the same thing as BSG, though: character interactions between flawed people desperately clinging to survival in the face of an overwhelming threat.

Do you think that comes across in the TV series? I ask, as I'm aware of the comics as I am of Bolivia.

Yes.

I watched s02e01 just to see if it had gotten any more watchable. I went to sleep and missed the end. What happened?

It turns out that's it's a crossover with the film I Am Legend, and they found Will Smith twatting about in his car, using a baseball bat to knock over zombies and they had a chat, then he's looking after the women, and the blokes have gone to get some more guns.

Boring. Did they find the little girl?

The film 'Tremors' is a correct example of how to do this shit.

STAMPEDE, EARL, STAMPEDE!

I love that film so much.

Are the sequels any good?

MrsA says 'no'. I've not seen them. I love Tremors, too.

Tremors is the epitome of what every single film ever should aspire to be.

Why do I always read the thread title as "The wanking dead"?

Are you on your phone now Dave?

Yes, but there are no mistakes in that post.

Because you finger cadavers.

I dont, but over time I've come to associate Mr Yard with the phenomenon.

Doo dooooo de doo doo.

They aren't cadavers, they're just.... unconscious.

They're pretty stiff already, so I guess they might as well.

Right - Books 10-12 almost made me cry. Horrible, moving, wonderfully written, beautiful, horrible, horrible horrible horrible stuff.

S2E02 - Really, really good. After the "waiting for a zombie to jump out" of E01, this was much more people focused, but still managed to slip in a "jesus!" moment or two.

the bit where also almost made m cry. Brought back too many memories of being a parent helplessly looking on in hospital, I guess.

And the bit where T Bone (or whatever his name is - I could just say "the black guy" as that would identify him more readily, but then that would be highlighting one of the problems with the show) looks in the back of the car was just horrid - they don't show much, well, anything much, but it's horrid. It's really, really well done. The fact the people can still feel horror over relatively small things after so long in a horrific situation is excellently done there.

The second episode was really good. I agree what what Mr Chris opined four days ago.

An interesting 3rd episode and some character development in there - knowing the storyline from the graphic novels its interesting to see how much they are willing to change

As do I.

Ooh, has episode 3 been on in the US then? I shall streamify it this evening.

It is interesting seeing what elements of the books they're picking up on late in the game now

Its shown on Sunday nights in the US so 'available' Monday morning



I think i got to around 70 in the books so i'm about 15 off the current story but it's been a while since i've read any of them

I got to volume 12 of the collected comics, not sure which issue of the individual comics that is -

Its a very similar place

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_walking_dead

Ep 3 is very interesting, very interesting indeed. We're diverging further and further from the books, which is no bad thing.

Yip - there is also a 'fluff' piece on AMC after the show called "The Talking dead" , its 30 minutes and doesnt really cover very much but i grabbed this week for a look , you have a host (Chris Hardwick from Nerdist) plus Felicia Day and some other guy discussing a few points (okay 1 point) from the episode , a short talk with Gale Anne Hurd and a clip from next weeks show - the discussion did answer one question I had

I'm saving this up for Saturday night when Mrs K and the inlaws are watching the Stupid Dancing Show. I shall enjoy with some red wine and an open fire. Good to hear that it's improving (not that I thought it was bad to start with).

ZOMG, this was a very good episode. I agree with Z above on . I also thought the conversations between Lori and Rick about Carl were incredibly well done.

All in all, a very good episode.

Yes, I agree with Mali.

Also, however, how does Hershel's gaff have leccy? And no zombies?

The lass asked if they had shut the gate on the way in, and the camera angle suggested the drive was long enough to diffuse any generator noise.

I meant due to all the external lights blazing away, but yeah. And even if they had a genny, would they really be spunking their diesel on lighting the place up like a christmas tree?

Do I need to spoiler this now it's been on UK? (those joop bumpers are annoying aren't they!)

Malc

I want to know if and how they're gonna film that sequence with The Governor and Michonne.

The Walking Dead TV Show: It's fucking shite.

Oh come on, TK - it's not shite. It's not the comic books, no, but it's still one of the better things on telly at the moment.

To be honest I'm glad they've departed from the storylines of the comics, as otherwise I'd hsve no suspense at all. I was enjoying Game of Throne, but only to see how they'd do X or Y, or what Z would look like.

The problem with Game of Thrones is that there are too many characters that sound alike, and it's getting me increasingly confused.

Tyrion = Dwarf
Tywin = his dad.
Simples.

Yeah, but there's umpteen 'Sers', sons, daughters and other people, too.

Do you get confused in real life, then? There are millions of people called "Mr" something.

It's the sheer volume of people that have alike sounding names who are on side A, then on Side B, then they want their own side, and I forget who has done what. it's hard to tell at times who is important or not. For instance, there's the Onion Kinght, Ser sometingorother, and his three sons, who hangs about with Saal around Stannis's gaff, and in amongst them, tehre's the woman, some other sons, a maester or two, a sept and someone else. All have a biography going along with them, and I find it hard o tell what's relevant or not.

You're talking abouy the books, then?

There's a handy cast list by House in the back.

I've got it on the Kindle. And, in all fairness, tracing a family tree whilst reading a novel isn't great fun.