Be Excellent To Each Other

I think the people who don't like this are just a bit slow in the head.

The show has its flaws, and I'll write more about that when I'm not at work, but it's probably the best thing on telly at the moment, and having watched eps 3,4 and 5 all yesterday, I was climbing the walls wanting to watch #6.

It's alright, not bad but not great. It's not the best thing on telly. For example Boardwalk Empire and The Trip are two things that I've been looking forward to each week with far more anticipation.

I'm still enjoying it. Pretty good having this, The Trip and Misfits all on at the moment.

You love all the shite on telly though

Nemmi - yep, it was a fake that needed a password which could only be unlocked after going through a load of marketing stuff and signing up to X Y and Z (which I didn't do, of course, and it was this that made me realise it was a fake, checked the US showing date and then got annoyed I'd stayed up to 1am to watch a dummy file).

Will be off to TPB in a day or two for the real ep6.

I've got 6, just haven't bothered to watch it yet

Why, hello there! Could I please bother you for a lendsies again?

Episode six was an improvement, but I'm not sure I can see myself continuing with this.

Also:

Yeah it was a bit of a letdown.



Just IMO, others will rave about it no doubt.

Definitely enjoyed this series all the way through. I'd say it did feel a little rushed in parts, and there was maybe not quite enough zombies. The CDC thing was pretty wierd, and I'm not quite sure the timeline for everything quite adds up.

I guess I'll watch the next series too. Hopefully it is as good or better.

I enjoyed episode six and like a lot of TV its good fun as long as you don't think about it too much. When you do that its easy to find plot holes and inconsistencies that can ruin the whole experience.

Started off really good first episode was excellent but the last episode reminded me of survivors (bbc tv). 6 Episodes is all there is for Season 1. Season 2 is 13 episodes so lets see what they can do with that.

Ep6 disappointed me, to be fair.


People who haven't read the comic might be interested to know that not one single bit of ep6 was in it. I am interested in what season 2 will bring though. I wonder if they'll have the cojones to keep it as harrowing as the comic, though, such as (spoilers for comic, not show):


I also wonder if series two will focus on

I think I may have to have a look at the comics then.

The comics are brilliant - I'm two volumes in and can't wait to pick up the next one.

The last epiosode of this was a bit pointless, I thought. Did they get told at the last minute they only had 6 episodes? Seemed rushed.

I think the initial order was for 6 episodes, they did not know if it would take off. But the 2nd season should hopefully be better.

Further to one of DocG's spoilers up there, I'm too wondering if they have the stones to show

That whole bit was easily the most harrowing part of the comic so far. A female friend of mine had to skip the actual pages where the first part of that unfolded.

Well, much as it stings to have my taste questioned by a fan of Lie To Me, I'll somehow find the strength to struggle on.

If this thing didn't have zombies in it then nobody would give it the time of day.

Well, it'd just be a bloke walking around in America.

Say it was the same cast of wandering dullards only instead of being chased by zombies they were just in some other sort of peril, it wouldn't even have got commissioned.

There is a very similar looking series on Sky at the moment (or recently) about survivors of some sort of disease outbreak, in the USA. I don't think we've mentioned that at all...

I mean don't get me wrong I'm watching it too but really only because it's zombies and for some reason like most people I like zombies and the zombies in this are pretty fucking good. But all the other aspects of the show seem to be only exactly as good as they need to be and precisely no better than that.

Man's got a point. It's generic drama with added Zombies.

I mean, the characters in L4D are more memorable than this bunch. And it has better zombies!

I have to say, I somewhat agree with Mark on this. None of the cast are shining out to me as putting in a real quality performance. The setting and direction are great, but the casting isn't thrilling me.

Then you're a broken headed wrongaloid.

The atmosphere, tension etc has been very well done (except perhaps ep 6). And Egg is brilliant.

Egg is just Egg.
Best actor was probably the redneck they left up on the roof. And wtf happened to him? I was expecting a vengeance call at any minute.
They should have at least left him as a gnawed skellington on the roof, just disappearing is a complete cop-out.

It is a little astonishing that we never saw him again. Especially considering they're now some distance from Atlanta, so would be a bit of a fiddle bringing him back in next series.

That's what I said.



yeah, me too. another thing pointing towards teh 6 episodes being a surprise to the writers.

The bits in episode 1 with the black chap and his son were brilliantly well done. I also liked the bits in the camp by the pool with the wimmins vs the redneck. Others also. My point, so far as it goes beyond abusing Craster, is that the series did do a number of things well beyond just having zombies in it. Much more so than a lot of other US TV knocking aobut, e.g. The Event

I have suspicions about what they're intending to do with him. I get the feeling that he may be used in place of a different character from the comics later on in order to give him some kind of background.

In other words...

Zio: oooooh!

He appeared to leave Atlanta long before the others though.

I don't think it's as good as I was hoping it would be. I haven't seen Ep. 6 yet, so I'll reserve judgement on that though. For me, the biggest problem has been having a larger number of survivors than the group from the comics, simply as that then sets some of them up into obvious redshirt-esque zombie fodder. Whereas you never quite know who will and who won't survive in the comics. It also means you don't get the time to invest as much emotionally into the characters that are there, so they become harder to care about. I genuinely found some of the deaths in the comics to be a real blow - I liked that character! I didn't want him/her to die!

If anyone here is considering trying the comics, get them in book form. Don't be an idiot and buy them in monthly issues like I do - waiting a month for the next small morsel is murder.

You see, it's weird, but I think this is the best paced and most interesting dramatic series since The Wire.

I love that it gives you some things and doesn't necessarily finish them off. Were this a regular TV show, then the guy and his son from ep1 would have showed up to save the day already. The redneck with one hand would have wreaked his revenge already (though I did think maybe he shipped a load of zombs in the back of the truck to the camp... that would have been awesome).

It's a show that has thus far taken a very slow road in development of characters, and whilst the actions of episode 6 were compressed into too short a time for my liking, it was still really good, and tied in with what had gone before (Jenner having said he was going to kill himself, and wishing to spare the others the grisly fate potentially awaiting them).

What also interests me, especially, is them opening up potential plotlines and then closing them off. Fer chrissakes, they had a character who was psychic! And he died almost immediately (or so we think). To be able to open up a whole new world and avenue of possibilities and then shut them down... that's brave.

Also, when leaving camp, one family chose to go away from the main group. Was I the only one who saw the head of that family get bitten during the zombie attack? If he did, then what a marvellous way of showing it! Now maybe I'm overestimating the show and he didn't get bitten and I'm an idiot, but if he did then it's the most subtle and sinister character death going in years!

Anyway. In terms of the whole setting, tension, involvement and whatnot, I declare it the best dramatic series of the year.

Lie To Me, whilst sometimes slightly formulaic, is excellently written and superbly acted.

Please name me many better episodic television shows so I can learn!

Not even close for me. Comparing it to The Wire?! I'm sure you're projecting more sophistication into it than the writers have!

Watch 'Breaking Bad' and then tell me this has even one tenth of the tension and character involvement.

I don't mean to slag it off, it's OK, just think it's pretty bland considering.

Each to their own though

I thought that he was going to do that. Shame, it turned out to just be a few passing zombs.

I watched the entire season over the weekend and it's the best telly since The Shield. I don't care it it's a load of so-called hackneyed zombie scenarios - I’m not aware of, or have seen, any Zombie TV series, so it remained fresh in my eyes. We don’t bemoan any sci-fi series simply because there we’ve all seen Star Wars or Star Trek dealing with the same subject do we. Plus I'm sick to death of series after series of Vampire bollocks capitalising on the success of Twylight, so its been a pleasant surprise to have a series dealing with something a bit more gritty than angsty teen emos.

Finally watched the last of the series last night. Yeah, I can see why some of you aren't hitting your vinegar strokes with it but I think it was fucking brilliant.

More please.

I watched one and a half episode of this before finding it intolerably dull. I don't much care for Breaking Bad either though.

My favourite series are things like Leverage and Chuck.

I agree with zardoz, but without the wanking.

And also - nirjehenge has just proved us absolutely, incontrovertibly right.

Yep.

I enjoyed the whole series (well, apart from episode 1 which I didn't get to see but will resolve at one point).

I also like Lori Grimes. Current favourite MIL..(Cuddle - Ed)

Episode one was the best. It showed promise, had nice pacing, and some good characters.

Lori is too thin and can only act out one emotion: flared eyes of death. She was crap in Prison Break, too.

It looks like below where the image cuts off, her body has been entirely replaced by that of a giant insect.

AND STILL THEY COME.

*stands up and applauds half way through Kalmars post*

Well, that last episode was a bit of a let down, wasn't it?

No.