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I never did figure out just how G the P of a GPMG really was. It seems quite specialised to me.

Pretty G, really. Can be used as a squad support weapon (on barrel mounted bipod or tripod mount), a vehicle mounted weapon or a helicopter door mounted weapon.

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 Post subject: Re: Bits and Bobs 22 - Two Little Ducks
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Crikey -

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L7A1 7.62×51 mm NATO FN MAG 60.20 T3 machine gun.
L7A2 L7A1 variant; FN MAG 60.20 T6; Improved feed mechanism and provision for 50 round belt-box.
L8A1 L7A1 variant; For mounting inside AFVs. No buttstock. Barrel fitted with fume extractor. Solenoid-triggered, but with folding pistol grip for emergency use.
L8A2 L8A1 variant; improved feed mechanism.
L19A1 L7A1 variant; extra-heavy barrel.
L20A1 L7A1 variant; for remote firing in gun pods and external mountings.
L20A2 L20A1 variant; improved feed mechanism.
L37A1 L8A1 variant; L8A1 breech & L7 barrel for mounting on AFVs. Conventional pistol grip and trigger, plus kit allowing dismounted use.
L37A2 L37A1 variant; L8A2 based. As above.
L43A1 L7A1 variant; for use as a ranging gun on the Scorpion light tank
L44A1 L20A1 variant; for Royal Navy

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 Post subject: Re: Bits and Bobs 22 - Two Little Ducks
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Both of those roles revolve around ejecting fast moving pieces of metal in a fixed direction. Compared to, say a Swiss Army knife or a computer or a car or even a Bowie knife or those assault shovel things, that's not particularly general.


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Crikey -

L43A1 L7A1 variant; for use as a ranging gun on the Scorpion light tank


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 Post subject: Re: Bits and Bobs 22 - Two Little Ducks
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
Both of those roles revolve around ejecting fast moving pieces of metal in a fixed direction. Compared to, say a Swiss Army knife or a computer or a car or even a Bowie knife or those assault shovel things, that's not particularly general.

It is general for a machine gun, I think. I think the designation is due to the fact that there were a number of different classifications of machine gun back in WW1-WW2 period, effectively from light up to heavy, each having a specific purpose.

EDIt - Mali, you have possibly misunderstood, presumably deliberately for comic purposes.

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 Post subject: Re: Bits and Bobs 22 - Two Little Ducks
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Fume extractor - LOL. Yeah, occupational health and safety being paramount on a machine gun


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 Post subject: Re: Bits and Bobs 22 - Two Little Ducks
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Fume extractor - LOL. Yeah, occupational health and safety being paramount on a machine gun

You say that, but I was wandering past a Royal Navy patrol boat moored up in Bristol harbour the other month and it had warning stickers on all the guns saying "DANGEROUS! DO NOT STAND THIS SIDE WHILE IN OPERATION"

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Possibly less "occupational health and safety", more "when shooting from inside a tin can, it's a good idea not to gas yourself and all your mates".

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 Post subject: Re: Bits and Bobs 22 - Two Little Ducks
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Fume extractor - LOL. Yeah, occupational health and safety being paramount on a machine gun
You say that, but I was wandering past a Royal Navy patrol boat moored up in Bristol harbour the other month and it had warning stickers on all the guns saying "DANGEROUS! DO NOT STAND THIS SIDE WHILE IN OPERATION"
Aye, they sometimes take Marines out with them :DD

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Do you pay VAT on rail tickets (specifically season tickets)?

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No.

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But what about claiming VAT back on train, air and bus tickets? A lot of businesses do this automatically and never think about it until they get a visit from a VAT Officer. The problem is that passenger transport in a vehicle, ship or aircraft designed or adapted to carry not less than 10 people (including the driver) is zero-rated. That means there is no VAT to be claimed and if a VAT Officer finds that you have been claiming VAT back he will disallow it and charge you interest.

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 Post subject: Re: Bits and Bobs 22 - Two Little Ducks
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 Post subject: Re: Bits and Bobs 22 - Two Little Ducks
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You just need a train that carries less than ten people. For a man who used to commute by boat, I'd have assumed that was easily achievable.


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If I took a £340 pay cut and coincidently work started paying for my monthly ticket, that'd save me 40% due to income tax, right?

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 Post subject: Re: Bits and Bobs 22 - Two Little Ducks
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Could getting a ticket from work be classed as a taxable benefit?


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No, because it would be a taxable benefit, I believe.

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If I took a £340 pay cut and coincidently work started paying for my monthly ticket, that'd save me 40% due to income tax, right?

I think that would be a benefit in kind, and taxable. I'm sure Riles will know.

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It's probably a taxable benefit.

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 Post subject: Re: Bits and Bobs 22 - Two Little Ducks
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It's probably a taxable benefit.

You're a taxable benefit.


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Right -

Register the Tomcat as a private hire taxi.

Drive Tomcat to work.

Claim expenses.

Take monthly pay deduction equal to expenses minus whatever the tax would be.

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nickachu wrote:
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It's probably a taxable benefit.

You're a taxable benefit.
He really isn't.


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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
nickachu wrote:
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It's probably a taxable benefit.

You're a taxable benefit.
He really isn't.


He feels like a tax, but he's certainly no benefit.


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 Post subject: Re: Bits and Bobs 22 - Two Little Ducks
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Well, today was a wash out. Rained so heavily the generator shorted. Don't make em like they used to. Was pretty grateful as I was bored and wet by then anyway.

In other news, don't use the Scandic hotels; they are shit.

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Mr Kissyfur wrote:
Grim... wrote:
If I took a £340 pay cut and coincidently work started paying for my monthly ticket, that'd save me 40% due to income tax, right?

I think that would be a benefit in kind, and taxable. I'm sure Riles will know.

Riles agrees.


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How do I not pay tax on it, Riles?

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Hire Riles for 95% of the tax you are avoiding, I'd imagine.


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Mr Kissyfur wrote:
simul-multi-hi5!

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In other improbable news, I was coming back from town and it began to rain a fair bit. Seeking shelter in a nearby pub, I bought a pint and used their toilets. I then saw the advert saying if I bought a Jack Daniels I could win something or other. I read the T&C's at the bottom, and it said "No purchase necessary". So, on leaving I asked for a card, the barman said I needed to buy one, i showed him the T&C's and he gave me a scratchcard. I now have a Jack Daniels rafia cowboy hat, and very rakish it is, too.

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Well, today was a wash out. Rained so heavily the generator shorted. Don't make em like they used to. Was pretty grateful as I was bored and wet by then anyway.


What are you up to anyway?


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Grim... wrote:
How do I not pay tax on it, Riles?

^^^^^^

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MaliA wrote:
I read the T&C's at the bottom, and it said "No purchase necessary".


What is the reason for that? I've often wondered.


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I think I'm in love with the automated voice lady from Orange.


I'm just putting that through for you....


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I think I'm in love with the automated voice lady from Orange.


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kalmar wrote:
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I read the T&C's at the bottom, and it said "No purchase necessary".


What is the reason for that? I've often wondered.


Grim... probably knows more.

I have a rafia cowboy hat.

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I suspect it would be considered gambling if you had to pay for a chance to win, or something like that.


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I read the T&C's at the bottom, and it said "No purchase necessary".


What is the reason for that? I've often wondered.

The law.

If there is any chance involved in who wins the prize, it will be deemed to be an illegal lottery if you're required to pay to enter. Only certain sorts of lottery are permitted under the Gambling Act (the National Lottery, certain sorts of charity lottery)

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Grim... wrote:
How do I not pay tax on it, Riles?


Craster wrote:
Just pay your damned "Living in a field" fine.

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Chris is 99% correct.
It's not an illegal lottery, it's just a lottery, something you need a licence for.

And now he's edited his post.

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Craster wrote:
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How do I not pay tax on it, Riles?


Craster wrote:
Just pay your damned "Living in a field" fine.

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Mr Kissyfur wrote:
kalmar wrote:
MaliA wrote:
I read the T&C's at the bottom, and it said "No purchase necessary".


What is the reason for that? I've often wondered.

The law.

If there is any chance involved in who wins the prize, it will be deemed to be an illegal lottery if you're required to pay to enter. Only certain sorts of lottery are permitted under the Gambling Act (the National Lottery, certain sorts of charity lottery)


Neat! Thanks law-talkin' guy :)

Lasermink wins though.


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kalmar wrote:
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kalmar wrote:
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I read the T&C's at the bottom, and it said "No purchase necessary".


What is the reason for that? I've often wondered.

The law.

If there is any chance involved in who wins the prize, it will be deemed to be an illegal lottery if you're required to pay to enter. Only certain sorts of lottery are permitted under the Gambling Act (the National Lottery, certain sorts of charity lottery)


Neat! Thanks law-talkin' guy :)

Lasermink wins though.

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kalmar wrote:
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Well, today was a wash out. Rained so heavily the generator shorted. Don't make em like they used to. Was pretty grateful as I was bored and wet by then anyway.


What are you up to anyway?


Standing in a field* whilst someone in a gas mask 400m away releases large quantities of chemicals out of a cylinder and seeing where they go and stuff.

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