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Which TP book next?
1 The Colour of Magic 1983 Rincewind Came 93rd in the Big Read. 3%  3%  [ 1 ]
2 The Light Fantastic 1986 Rincewind 7%  7%  [ 2 ]
3 Equal Rites 1987 The Witches, The Wizards 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
4 Mort 1987 Death Came 65th in the Big Read 14%  14%  [ 4 ]
5 Sourcery 1988 Rincewind, The Wizards 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
7 Pyramids 1989 Miscellaneous (Djelibeybi) British Science Fiction Award winner, 1989[5] 7%  7%  [ 2 ]
8 Guards! Guards! 1989 The City Watch Came 69th in the Big Read 35%  35%  [ 10 ]
11 Reaper Man 1991 Death, The Wizards Came 126th in the Big Read 7%  7%  [ 2 ]
12 Witches Abroad 1991 The Witches Came 197th in the Big Read 3%  3%  [ 1 ]
13 Small Gods 1992 Miscellaneous (Omnia), The History Monks Came 102nd in the Big Read 10%  10%  [ 3 ]
17 Interesting Times 1994 Rincewind, The Wizards 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
18 Maskerade 1995 The Witches 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
23 Carpe Jugulum 1998 The Witches 3%  3%  [ 1 ]
25 The Truth 2000 The Ankh-Morpork Times, 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
26 Thief of Time 2001 Death, Susan Sto Helit, The History Monks, The Witches 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
28 The Amazing Maurice and his Educated Rodents 2001 A YA 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
29 Night Watch 2002 The City Watch, The History Monks 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
31 Monstrous Regiment 2003 Miscellaneous (Borogravia), The City Watch, The Ankh-Morpork Times 3%  3%  [ 1 ]
34 Thud! 2005 The City Watch Locus Award nominee, 2006[12] 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
36 Making Money 2007 Moist von Lipwig Locus Award winner 3%  3%  [ 1 ]
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 Post subject: Re: Terry Pratchett
PostPosted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 19:33 
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Aye, then if you want to start with Discworld books I’d probably go with Guards! Guards!

Small Gods is excellent, but also pretty weird from what I remember.


So much of it was reused as the plot to American Gods :-)

Small gods is basically 'gods are what you make of them' along with 'dont trust organized religion' and 'who is top god now might not be later'

It does not rely on you knowing anything at all about discworld at all and other than DEATH (and a short guest spot by the Librarian (OOK)) none of the characters are in the other books.

Guards Guards is another excellent starting point but it then leads onto so many more (and although its good I think its probably one of the weakest 'watch' stories)

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 Post subject: Re: Terry Pratchett
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Mimi wrote:

Not on audible, but I’ve got the first two (Truckers, and Diggers) so I’ll give those a listen then get the third if I’m enjoying them, then I’ll come back for more advice :D


I enjoyed Truckers. It was lighthearted but touched on a lot of human problems/disputes. I know there are a lot of very strong Pratchett fans out there, and I know these are not his ‘main’ books, and maybe for younger (?) readers, so I hope this doesn’t offend anybody, but the writing in truckers reminded me a bit of a cross between Ronald Dahl and Douglas Adams. A mix of the cheery, slightly removed conversational turn of phrase of Adams, with the character and situational stylings of Dahl.

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 Post subject: Re: Terry Pratchett
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Yeah the Bromeliad trilogy, Johnny and the..., The Amazing Maurice and His Educated Rodents, and the Tiffany Aching series are all for the younger reader. I started with Lords and Ladies reading it next to a river in Wales when a young teenager. Bliss.

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 Post subject: Re: Terry Pratchett
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Hellooooo again.

Ok, so I read the Bromeliad trilogy and enjoyed them in a sort of Roald Dahl way. Then I listened to Small Gods and I loved it. Really really loved it.

So, should I listen to the other one next (Guards, Guards!) If I liked Small Gods muchly?

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 Post subject: Re: Terry Pratchett
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Guards! Guards! is thoroughly excellent. Yes, do so.

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Cool, thank youp.

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 Post subject: Re: Terry Pratchett
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Guards! Guards! is also the start of one of the long running series (around the city watch) so if you enjoy that there is a chain you can go through featuring a lot of the same characters

Small Gods is one of my favorites and although the ideas recur a lot you never really hear of Brutha or Omnia again.


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 Post subject: Re: Terry Pratchett
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zaphod79 wrote:
Guards! Guards! is also the start of one of the long running series (around the city watch) so if you enjoy that there is a chain you can go through featuring a lot of the same characters

Small Gods is one of my favorites and although the ideas recur a lot you never really hear of Brutha or Omnia again.


Cool. Though a shame about Brutha, because I liked him.

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 Post subject: Re: Terry Pratchett
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*ping*

Hi folks. Please tell me which I should read next. I tried to work it out by searching, but everyone says something different, and nobody says published order.

Thank you.

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Altered Carbon by Richard K Morgan.

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Altered Carbon by Richard K Morgan.


Having recently read it for the first time, I can't see myself reading it again. It's good, but not quite as good as the expectations I had of it.

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 Post subject: Re: Terry Pratchett
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I need something with a bit of levity, really. I like the fantasy/light hearted dialogue of Small Gods and Guards Guards so thought I’d stick with the Pratchett if they are written in the same style.

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 Post subject: Re: Terry Pratchett
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If you want to go through the Guards books then:

Guards! Guards!
Men at Arms
Feet of Clay
Jingo
The Fifth Elephant
Night Watch
Thud!
Snuff

is the order.

If you fancy a stand-alone then go for Moving Pictures I reckon.

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MaliA wrote:
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Altered Carbon by Richard K Morgan.


Having recently read it for the first time, I can't see myself reading it again. It's good, but not quite as good as the expectations I had of it.

I felt this. However, it is a first book and I suspect there was no budget for a decent editor

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 Post subject: Re: Terry Pratchett
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If you want to go through the Guards books then:

Guards! Guards!
Men at Arms
Feet of Clay
Jingo
The Fifth Elephant
Night Watch
Thud!
Snuff

is the order.

If you fancy a stand-alone then go for Moving Pictures I reckon.

Cheers. I might give Moving Pictures a go :)

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Cheers. I might give Moving Pictures a go :)


I'd also suggest hitting the starting point in one of the other long series , you know who and what the Watch are now so why not the Witches ?

I found Wyrd sisters harder to pick up than some of the others although I don't think you miss much by jumping straight into Maskerade which is Pratchett's version of The Phantom of the Opera and another of my favourite's


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 Post subject: Re: Terry Pratchett
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Hi folks. Please tell me which I should read next. I tried to work it out by searching, but everyone says something different, and nobody says published order.


The problem with the published order (and what puts a lot of people off doing stuff in that way) is that the books get better as time goes on but the characters are introduced in the early ones and develop over time

For a lot of them you don't need to know the background on characters but it helps a little to understand where they have been and what has gone before.


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Cool, I’ll do that too!

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Altered Carbon by Richard K Morgan.


You misspelt Market Forces.

Also, I recall the exact time I gave up on Pratchett: it was about thirty pages into Thief of Time, at my cousin's house. I just sort of... didn't like it any more, and haven't read any of his books newer than that. Shame really, Soul Music is one of my favourite things ever.

I did get heavily into Robert Rankin around that time, mind.

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Altered Carbon by Richard K Morgan.

You misspelt Market Forces.

Never have I gone from "what a stupid concept" to "fucking in" as suddenly as I did when reading Market Forces. I don't even know what caused it, but at some point a switch was flipped in my head and road wars for job contracts became completely acceptable.

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Also, I recall the exact time I gave up on Pratchett: it was about thirty pages into Thief of Time, at my cousin's house. I just sort of... didn't like it any more, and haven't read any of his books newer than that. Shame really, Soul Music is one of my favourite things ever.

I did get heavily into Robert Rankin around that time, mind.


So all I can say is that i really loved thief of time but its not one I've re-read in a while - some of it (and Night Watch which is one I love) remind me a lot of Doctor Who

It may be worth picking up and reading a few pages of a different one if you loved Soul Music so much
One of the advantages of their being so many Discworld books is that there can be ones you think of as duffers but there are plenty of others to go for.


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 Post subject: Re: Terry Pratchett
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Monstrous Regiment, Mimi :) probably my favourite Pratchett.

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Grim... wrote:
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Altered Carbon by Richard K Morgan.

You misspelt Market Forces.

Never have I gone from "what a stupid concept" to "fucking in" as suddenly as I did when reading Market Forces. I don't even know what caused it, but at some point a switch was flipped in my head and road wars for job contracts became completely acceptable.


Shame about the shitty ending.


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Never have I gone from "what a stupid concept" to "fucking in" as suddenly as I did when reading Market Forces. I don't even know what caused it, but at some point a switch was flipped in my head and road wars for job contracts became completely acceptable.


Yup. It's totally absurd, but something about it feels right. It helps that he writes action really well; there's a sort of terseness to his action scenes, like he's as impatient to get to the cool bits as you are.

I had high hopes for his games writing work, but he did Syndicate and Crysis 2 then quit, because writing games is hard and everything you submit gets changed and chopped up and broken :(

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It may be worth picking up and reading a few pages of a different one if you loved Soul Music so much


I've read everything up to and including the first thirty pages of Thief of Time and yeah, you're right. A lot of it is amazing.

I think there was a bit of a shift in Pratchett's mindset around Interesting Times, though, and the books became a lot more about the morality and justice of the systems that rule Discworld—I was reading a lot of stuff like Foucault and Ligotti at the time (because I was, and still am, a heavily pretentious idiot) and wanted Discworld to be funny jokes about fantasy tropes.

I reread a few of them every so often, and the Guards series is always fun. Even Jingo, which feels weirdly unfinished, like deadline day suddenly appeared and he needed to submit a final draft in the morning.

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 Post subject: Re: Terry Pratchett
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Monstrous Regiment, Mimi :) probably my favourite Pratchett.


Another +1 for Monstrous Regiment

"Fill yer boots"

From memory the only crossover is that the City Watch (or at least Vimes and Angua) make an appearance - but you could just treat it as another standalone


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Monstrous Regiment, Mimi :) probably my favourite Pratchett.


Another +1 for Monstrous Regiment

"Fill yer boots"

From memory the only crossover is that the City Watch (or at least Vimes and Angua) make an appearance - but you could just treat it as another standalone


Yeah, they're not really sufficiently important to the plot IMO that you need to have read any of the other Watch books.

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