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Made me want to commit murder.

The show was a good enough idea. I mean what you do is take the type who constantly yell DEY TOOK OOR JERBS ! and put them in the place of the immigrant. But there was these two fucking cunts (pardon my french but they were utter cunts) put on a production line packing potatoes.

Fuck me, where do I even begin?

1. They were 30 mins late.

2. They were racist to the poor cunt working with them. Failing to take note that it was their first day on the job and rocking the boat was probably a bad idea.

3. They fucked up and when caught did their best to lay the equal blame onto the poor cunt they were slowing down, I mean,had working with them.

4. Said "I'd love to be here two days ago. I bet they don't normally work this hard !" and "I've earned £800 a day before and not worked this hard"

I could go on all night. Seriously it was fucking embarassing. I got so annoyed I had to stop watching it.

One thing I learned when I hit rock bottom and made the mistake of moving to a poor area in Ohio was that the less you get paid the harder you have to work for it. Seriously, I worked in Burger King for a month and lost nearly a stone. I have worked on building sites and not worked that hard.

Heard the related "topical" phone-in on Radio 2 at lunchtime. Made my blood boil, to be honest.

(Incidentally, I instantly want to fucking kill anyone who ever describes my girlfriend as an "immigrant". She's fucking not, she's a migrant, different concept. And she's not here to "take all our benefits", if may dad happens to be browsing this forum and reading this.)

Awww, I thought this was going to be about Auf Weidershen Pet.

From the sound of it, though, I'm glad I missed the Radio 2 phone-ins. I don't know why I listen to them, to be honest, it makes me want to stab people. The only good thing is that fella from Rhondda who does the gardening.

I became so enraged at these cunts so fast I seriously had to turn it off.

It's exactly the same in the USA aswell. They all say that the Mexicans have taken all the jobs. Thing is? I've seen how those fuckers work and I would not want to take their places. They're working animals.

I'll never, EVER forget working in Ohio and being looked at down the nose of a welfare sponge like I was stupid or dumb for working at Burger King. I was simply doing what I had to do or starve. Something they will never understand.

I saw about 20 mins of this, and yeah, the thick English twats were just plain embarrassing. This is probably why they were chosen for the programme, as they were just utter stereotypes really, but still lazy, ignorant twats, for all that.

Oh the best one was the dude who sent a text message at midnight saying he wouldn't be coming in because he had only just got home and didn't feel well.

The poor dear.

Indeed, and I have a problem with people coming to this country and not working. But then I have an equal if not greater problem with people born here who can't be arsed working, too.

I quite liked (by that I mean hated) the bloke who worked in the Indian restaurant for what appeared to be all of half a day, before deciding it wasn't for him.

Yeah, I saw this and it was pretty embarrassing for the Brits. If I was a business owner, I would employ the people that worked the hardest. It just so happened that the people that worked the hardest, weren't originally from this country.

That kid who didn't turn up for his first day needs water boarding or something! He text his new boss (who he hadn't met yet) at midnight to say that he wouldn't be there at 5am because "He'd just got in and was feeling rather ill"

Must have been a bad pint!

But yes.. this made my blood boil!

I was watching an episode of Grand Designs a few days ago, where a team of builders had come over from Germany to construct one of those pre-fabricated houses. They were up at the crack of dawn and already waiting at the building site ready to get going, only to wait around for five hours for the British crane to turn up who not only had set off late, but had been giving a completely wrong address by the bosses.

I've done some work in a factory, and I'm glad the agency I went through only put me there for one day. The work was tremendously dull, yet incredibly physically exhausting. The rate they push you and the nature of the work is easy to break a man. I don't envy factory workers at all.

Did he walk?

And these people are desperate for jobs and will take anything and had applied for hundreds of jobs.

Haven't seen the programme (couldn't bare to), but I know the sort. Like the ex-cchoolfriends whom I kept in touch with years after leaving secondary school, until very recently. Were completely hostile to my girlfriend, or rather the concept of her: she's an "immigrant", she "Polish" and taking all our jobs, our benefits** etc. Whilst they were the ones who left education at 16 with no GCSEs.* I doubt a multilingual German with several degrees who can is really doing to be competing in the job market with those flatulent lardbuckets.

* Often, actually, due to parental pressure. "Education was bad" was seemingly beaten into their heads, perhaps literally.
** As if someone from Germany would find British benefits generous!

They do work quite hard in Germany... And, happily, they are covered by the European working time directive (we aren't, properly), so rarely work more than 40 hours a week. We're mugs, really. Social market economies FTW.

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Yeah, I must confess that I don't know the difference between a migrant and an immigrant. Educate me, AnonX!

I thought it was purely direction. Someone leaving to go to Germany would be a migrant, someone arriving from Germany would be an immigrant.

Actually no, now I think about it. Someone leaving to go to Germany would be an emigrant, someone arriving from Germany would be an immigrant, and migrant covers both, non?

I just had a chat with my uncle about this. He didn't see the program but he's very modern and cool.

And we both agreed that the working population of these people (I won't refer to them as immigrants or migrants now..) are footing the bill for their fellow countrymen in the taxes they pay and then some.

Which makes sense and is another way of looking at it (a more positive one, perhaps?).

We also agreed that these people are the backbone of this country seeing as how we're (the Brits) mostly made up of lazy expectant cunts.

Well, I ended up watching this last night just to actually have seen the thing we're talking about. Thoughts:

1. The lad sending a text message to the line manager saying he'd only just got home (at midnight, due to start work at 5am) was a prick. He'd been out of work for five years, and still thought he had a certain amount of leniency about picking jobs he didn't think he'd enjoy. It doesn't work like that, chap.
   
   His life seemed to consist entirely of sitting in his bedroom playing Call of Duty. He claimed he'd check the Internet for jobs in the morning, but I'm hesitant to believe him, and you don't land good jobs without being incredibly pro-active about it.
   
   
2. Three of four people hired by the Indian restaurant didn't turn up. Two claimed they had food-poisoning, while the other claimed his wife was sick and had to take her to the hospital. The programme didn't investigate the matters, but 75% of the employees not turning up is out of order.
   
   The one guy left did put in a decent amount of effort, but spent a lot of the time flouncing and getting stressed out.
   
   
3. The people on the Asparagus farm were useless, relying on the argument that ‘It'll take ages to learn the ropes’ straight after the farm owner saying it's never taken anybody more than three or four hours to get up to the same speed as the current workforce. Paid by weight of Asparagus picked, the best of the three still only picked half the amount as the current workers, amounting to well under minimum wage (which had to be bumped up to minimum by the owner, of course, losing him a fair amount of money.)
   
   The defence of the British workers here still rested on their apparent god-given right over foreigners to get first dibs on jobs. One argued that even if it took a British person an extra week to get the hang of things, they should be preferred over foreigners. Yeah, but in a six-week harvest, a week of extra flouncing isn't acceptable if you want to turn a profit.

Overall, a bit embarrassing. And although I have no doubt the selection was a bit fixed, my experience of such people from my time in job centres matches up perfectly.

An immigrant settles in a foreign country, but a migrant only stays temporarily.

It shouldn't work like that, you mean?

Well, yes. If you're serious about getting some work and are willing to start at the bottom, just grab a job. It can only get better, and a five-year blank slot on your CV is never a good thing.

When working abroard I always used to call the ex-pats immigrants, it really pissed them off.

Irony is of course that in the USA the govt calls you one throughout the entire process. Oh, and an alien.

Cool, I want to be an Alien.

A couple of people in this programme struck me as lazy, just downright lazy.

How do they get away with it?!? I remember when I got made redundant whilst living at my parents.. my mom was on my back every day until I got another job.

I do consider myself quite lazy, but I couldn't bear not working and having money to live/buy things every month.

Since I got my first job in my first year of Uni (aged 18) I have been unemployed for exactly 2 weeks. I hated it. I felt like an absolute wretch and couldn't look at myself in the mirror.

So I took a shitty job (5am starts, 11 hours shifts) to motivate me to get a better one. It worked.

They get away with it by lying. Did you see the one fella's interview/action report sheet? It was full. I had one years ago before I went on New Deal*. Basically you have to do so much a day and put it on the sheet. If you don't they cut your benefits. He lasted what? a couple of hours?

*New Deal. I had had enough of being on the rocker and decided to take them up on New Deal.Basically they find you a job and subsidise your wages so that an employer can take you on even if they're not looking and get dirt cheap labour.

I found my own job by pleading on my hands and knees with a local PC shop and within 2 years I was running the place. I went from making min wage to about £400 post tax a week and having the keys and the alarm codes. Amazing what you can do when you really put your mind to it (lying on a paper sheet excluded of course).

But you're right. They're lazy fucks who don't want to do anything and are using everything and every one as an excuse, even those incredibly hard working foreigners. Infact that's their easiest excuse. It's the same thing with these cunts who want a council house. They say that they can't get one because the immigrants are taking them all. Then you show them figures of how many immigrants are actually here and they do the motorbike.

Bu bu bu but.

I watched it and thought it was a bit cynical with a pre-determined conclusion by the producers arrived at by cherry picking the most fuckwitted idiots they could find to fill the jobs they were advertising.

What got me was the plasterer moaning and wailing about someone not liking his work - he would rather they slagged him off when he wasn't there. Hooray for good old British hypocrisy.

I also laughed at the two British blokes in the tatey factory complaining that they were operating the machines at maximum. How very dare they?

What really really got me though was the amount of completely unwarranted justification for their shitness as if everyone was picking on them. "I'm trying my best to pick these asparagus but my half arsed lolloping about isn't good enough for you so I'm fucking off to take a break" or "How do you know it was us that counted them tateys wrong? JOHNNY FOREIGNER is on our team and it was obviously him wot did it and even if it was us then we all have bad days at counting. TO FUCKING TWELVE"

I really hope they are too lazy to ever vote. Cunts.

I really hate to worry you Trousers but do you realise the huge percentage of said fuckwitted idiots just like those ones that this country now contains?

There are entire cities filled with people just like the ones in the programme. You're utterly right about it being pre determined. But sadly they didn't really have much to go with really.

Without quoting again it was those two fucks working at the potato factory that made me turn it off. Not so much the lardassed one but the other one with the mouth that never closed. He reminded me of the cock with the moustache in Carry on at your convinience. You know? the weedy little prick that kept calling for strikes.

I glazed over the fact it was full in favour of laughing in despair at his note on every table row stating ‘Sent of CV’. Every single row.

I noticed that too. That was one of the highlights. hahaha !



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Jesus, I haven't seen this, but the jobs he is applying for, is he vaguely qualified for them? Health and safety manager?

Well, Health and Safety managers often produce misspelt signs.

I don't think ‘Qualified’ is an adjective he can ever hope to possess. His very young daughter was teaching him basic maths, for example.

That's swung me from thinking he's a dick to feeling quite sorry for him.

This guy in question came across as one of the good guys eventually. Sure, he had his beef with the 'imigants' but he did come around in the end. He also showed a want and a will to get back to work... Unlike the annoying emo Xbox twat who clearly couldn't give a shit about working.

Yes, he was very much one of the least dickish of the bunch. Although he came across initially as a typical ‘send all foreigners home’ guy, he clearly wanted to work, needed to support his family, and was putting in extra effort to bump up his qualifications.

I had no idea that Nickachu was on this.

I am in need of a job now however.

It is quite amusing being over here and technically being "one of those immigrants, taking our jobs". Mainly because the person who joined with me was a right stuck up bitch from Cambridge who couldn't understand why she wasn't fitting in when she made absolutely no effort to do so. "The trouble with Dublin", she says, "is it is full of immigrants."

And she got very annoyed that she couldn't tell when I was being sarcastic or just joking. She was going to order a £50 grand BMW 535GT and shoved the spec under my nose.

"GT? Fuel injected, yes?"
"Yes."
"19 inch wheels. Are they standard?"
"No, Upgraded them."
"Nice. Leather seats, electric everything, anti-reflect/glare glass, metallic paint, Bose stereo."
"Yeah, I think so."
"In summary then, a GTi, tinted windows, a loud stereo and with big arsed alloys. Could it possibly be any more chavvy?"

you could think of that as immigrant = immobile migrant

I couldn't believe the young bloke who texted to say he couldn't make it in to work was 25 years old. He had the bearing of someone in their mid-teens.

Overall, it was a damning indictment of modern Britain, but almost certainly stage-managed by the production team to show precisely what they wanted to convey. Hopefully it will be something of an education to some of the repellent, meat-head 'British Lion' types.

I doubt it. Those sorts only watch programmes that are either 30 or 90 minutes long.

I hate the word migrant. It sounds too much like migraine, then comes across as quite a horrible word to describe someone with.

My grunt. He my monkey butler. Him name Tinkyclamps Bostonbottom.

She's a migrant (or migrant worker, technically) as she has migrated from one EU state (Germany) to another (UK). All the legal documentation I have seen refers to her status as an EU migrant. Remember, we have free movement of EU citizens within the EU; she's no different to, say, a Scotsman moving to Bath in England, for example.

Migrant is the neutral form which reflects the administrative necessity of referencing the movement of an EU citizen from one nation to another.

She will call her self a migrant. The people she left behind will say she emigrated. And the people here will say she is an immigrant. All are correct in their own specific way.

Hurrah, that's what I said! I like Hugh.

It's all semantics at the end of the day anyway.

We're all humans.

I'd argue very strongly against "immigrant"*, speaking personally. Yes, if she moved here from outside the EU/EEA, and needed permission to live her, or had to jump through hoops for residency permit, perhaps immigrant might be right. But as she's an EU citizen, and the EU itself is moving towards becoming a federal entity, I don't think it's valid.

(* I've heard her being called an "asylum seeker" my some ignorant now-ex-friends. )

But does she piss and whine and say how shit it is here all the time?