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| Author: | Grim... [ Tue Feb 23, 2010 15:35 ] |
| Post subject: | What makes a good burger? |
I think (from the bottom up) toasted sesame seed bun, ketchup, onion (the kind that kicks your face off, rather than just has a faint onion taste), burger (medium-rare, but good and cooked on the outside), cheese (not fucking cheddar - good cheese slices will do), another burger, cheese again, bacon (streaky and cooked until it doesn't bend), mayo, lettuce and bun lid. SOME FOOLS suggest that there should be no bacon, or worse, fucking avacado. Or egg. EGG? BUTTER? What goes in your perfect burger? I recognise that some of you would take the actual burger out, which is fine if that's the sort of thing you like. |
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| Author: | Mimi [ Tue Feb 23, 2010 15:39 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What makes a good burger? |
My perfect burger would be (going top down, as a kind of word to pictorial diagram): ciabatta roll swiss cheese Decent quality veggie burger Bottom of ciabbatta roll I don't like ketchups and that kind of stuff, really. Also, even the thought of Mayo makes me feel yuck. I like lettuce, but not when it is in anything warm  I can't stand warm limp salad 
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| Author: | Malabelm [ Tue Feb 23, 2010 15:42 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What makes a good burger? |
Grim... wrote: I think (from the bottom up) toasted sesame seed bun, ketchup, onion (the kind that kicks your face off, rather than just has a faint onion taste), burger (medium-rare, but good and cooked on the outside), cheese (not fucking cheddar - good cheese slices will do), another burger, cheese again, bacon (streaky and cooked until it doesn't bend), mayo, lettuce and bun lid. That sounds about right, but hold the mayo. Can't stand the stuff. |
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| Author: | kalmar [ Tue Feb 23, 2010 15:42 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What makes a good burger? |
Lightly-toasted ciabatta roll Ketchup. Spicy mexican bean burger Fresh onion Branston's chilli relish lettuce, fresh tomato slices non-egg mayo more roll. |
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| Author: | Cras [ Tue Feb 23, 2010 15:45 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What makes a good burger? |
I'd agree with Grim..., but without the onion. Also, the meat. Anyone who uses lean mince to make a burger should have their eyeballs cut out. The number of barbecues I've been to where people have offered their 'delicious homemade burgers' that taste of absolutely fuck all. |
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| Author: | Grim... [ Tue Feb 23, 2010 15:45 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What makes a good burger? |
kalmar wrote: non-egg mayo Isn't that just white paste? |
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| Author: | Cras [ Tue Feb 23, 2010 15:46 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What makes a good burger? |
I'm pretty sure it's just oil. |
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| Author: | kalmar [ Tue Feb 23, 2010 15:47 ] |
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Craster wrote: I'm pretty sure it's just oil. Isn't most salad dressing? I don't want rancid egg anywhere near it, that's all. |
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| Author: | Cras [ Tue Feb 23, 2010 15:47 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What makes a good burger? |
You're broken. |
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| Author: | Malabelm [ Tue Feb 23, 2010 15:48 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What makes a good burger? |
Craster wrote: Also, the meat. Anyone who uses lean mince to make a burger should have their eyeballs cut out. The number of barbecues I've been to where people have offered their 'delicious homemade burgers' that taste of absolutely fuck all. Indeed. Also: dry as fuck. |
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| Author: | kalmar [ Tue Feb 23, 2010 15:48 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What makes a good burger? |
You're the one that wants an eyeball burger! |
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| Author: | Grim... [ Tue Feb 23, 2010 15:50 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What makes a good burger? |
kalmar wrote: You're the one that wants an eyeball burger! You've got Mexicans in yours! |
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| Author: | Sir Taxalot [ Tue Feb 23, 2010 15:50 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What makes a good burger? |
The kids from Keenan and Kel on Nickelodeon? |
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| Author: | Kern [ Tue Feb 23, 2010 15:51 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What makes a good burger? |
A large slap of meat, preferably at least half an inch thick. Ketchup, mayo, bacon, lettuce, and, if we're greedy, pineapple (but possibly not in that order). Importantly, it should be possible to hold it in the hands without suffering the humiliation of 'burger collapse'. |
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| Author: | kalmar [ Tue Feb 23, 2010 15:51 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What makes a good burger? |
WTF PINEAPPLE? This is turning into a proper bunfight. |
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| Author: | Grim... [ Tue Feb 23, 2010 15:51 ] |
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Kern wrote: pineapple You were doing so well. |
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| Author: | zaphod79 [ Tue Feb 23, 2010 15:52 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What makes a good burger? |
Where does the group stand on pickles or mustard ? |
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| Author: | kalmar [ Tue Feb 23, 2010 15:54 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What makes a good burger? |
Pickled jalepenos, sure. Anything else is going to be weird. Mustard, save it for your bacon butty, it has no place in a burger. |
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| Author: | Grim... [ Tue Feb 23, 2010 15:54 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What makes a good burger? |
Brown sauce in my bacon ("sandwich" - Ed). I don't fish gherkins out of my burger, I quite like them, but I wouldn't put them in the perfect one. They're just there to offset some of the saltiness, and I like saltiness. |
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| Author: | KovacsC [ Tue Feb 23, 2010 15:56 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What makes a good burger? |
Craster wrote: I'd agree with Grim..., but without the onion. Also, the meat. Anyone who uses lean mince to make a burger should have their eyeballs cut out. The number of barbecues I've been to where people have offered their 'delicious homemade burgers' that taste of absolutely fuck all.  But replace the ketchup with a chilli vareity.. for me. Raw onion also works |
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| Author: | Grim... [ Tue Feb 23, 2010 15:57 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What makes a good burger? |
I meant raw onion. Cooked onion is just a slimy mess. |
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| Author: | Zio [ Tue Feb 23, 2010 15:57 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What makes a good burger? |
I really like the gerkins they shove in McDonalds burgers. It's the one thing I like about their burgers. For me, the Ulti-Burger would be, big sized beefy burger surrounded by lots of bacon, cheese slices, a bit of lettuce, onion, lashings of BBQ sauce wrapped in a toasted sesame seed bun. And if the MaccyD gerkins go okay with the BBQ sauce, shove them in. Yum! |
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| Author: | Wullie [ Tue Feb 23, 2010 15:57 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What makes a good burger? |
Craster wrote: Also, the meat. Anyone who uses lean mince to make a burger should have their eyeballs cut out. The number of barbecues I've been to where people have offered their 'delicious homemade burgers' that taste of absolutely fuck all. veggy burgers taste more meaty than them. If I'm eating veggy burgers though, I like the ones that are obviously made of veg instead of pretend meat best.
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| Author: | Cras [ Tue Feb 23, 2010 15:58 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What makes a good burger? |
I'm of the opinion that everything under the sun should be on offer, for you to apply yourself. As long as the burger is right, you can add your own pickles, relishes, and salads. |
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| Author: | DBSnappa [ Tue Feb 23, 2010 15:58 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What makes a good burger? |
All the trimmings are entirely subjective. Personally I find most shop bought sesame buns not robust enough so tend to make the dough in my bread maker and then make the baps myself. That way you can adjust the burger to fit the bread and the bread doesn't fall apart when you're half way through eating it. I make my own burgers as well. 1.5lb Decent minced beef or lamb from a butcher - supermarket stuff is acceptable, but mince will always be better from a butcher. 2 cloves of garlic, finely chopped/crushed 1 egg (med) half a small strong onion, finely chopped .5 tsp of cayenne pepper plenty of salt pepper 1tsp of chopped thyme Remember here folks seasoning is king - if you use lean mince from a supermarket it will be a) too lean and b) too fresh so season the fuck out of it. Or.... GO TO A BUTCHERS and if you're really anal, buy rump steak and veal and cut it very finely by hand. Will take ages will taste awesome. mix that lot together for your burgers, make into patties, cook the desired amount of time. Decent bread rolls, slightly firmer in texture than most shop bought buns. Tomato relish Finely sliced salad onions that are strong but sweet. some lettuce - not too much though burger cheese (any of the harder cheeses like jarlsberg, gouda, leerdammer, emmental) sliced beef tomato home made mayo (trust me this is soooo much tastier than anything you can buy anywhere) Bacon is optional, but if you want it crispy cook it in the oven for half an hour, not in the pan. nom nom nom |
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| Author: | Cras [ Tue Feb 23, 2010 16:00 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What makes a good burger? |
Also, ciabatta rolls - NO! |
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| Author: | Kern [ Tue Feb 23, 2010 16:01 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What makes a good burger? |
DBSnappa wrote: All the trimmings are entirely subjective. Aye. I think it's the meat that matters most in a burger, whether it be the quality of the cut, its size, or how cooked it is (not too rare, but softer than you'd have a steak, I think). |
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| Author: | Grim... [ Tue Feb 23, 2010 16:01 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What makes a good burger? |
A large part of a burger being perfect is not having to make it myself  Craster wrote: Also, ciabatta rolls - NO! I've got to agree with this. |
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| Author: | Grim... [ Tue Feb 23, 2010 16:02 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What makes a good burger? |
Kern wrote: DBSnappa wrote: All the trimmings are entirely subjective. Aye. I think it's the meat that matters most in a burger, whether it be the quality of the cut, its size, or how cooked it is (not too rare, but softer than you'd have a steak, I think). That bit of meat can be as good as you like, but if some cunt sticks a fried egg on top and pours guacamole all over it, it's not going to cut it. |
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| Author: | sdg [ Tue Feb 23, 2010 16:06 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What makes a good burger? |
I had an amazing burger on Thursday from Waitrose, it was a beef burger but also had chilli in it. The burger on Friday was also incredible from Gourmet Burger or whatever It was called. I had the Habanero burger. The chips we great as well, nice big chunky ones. You need good chips to make it a proper meal. Then some garlic mayo. Yum. Yeah so basically for all your burger needs I recommend that restaurant  I hate when you get a lamb burger and it is seasoned or mixed or served with mint. It lacks imagination. I like making home made lamb burgers and seasoning them with some nice spices and coriander. |
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| Author: | devilman [ Tue Feb 23, 2010 16:06 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What makes a good burger? |
Zio wrote: I really like the gerkins they shove in McDonalds burgers. It's the one thing I like about their burgers. For me, I like the sauce on their Big Tasty burger - what is that stuff? |
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| Author: | Grim... [ Tue Feb 23, 2010 16:08 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What makes a good burger? |
devilman wrote: Zio wrote: I really like the gerkins they shove in McDonalds burgers. It's the one thing I like about their burgers. For me, I like the sauce on their Big Tasty burger - what is that stuff? This is a very good point. |
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| Author: | Grim... [ Tue Feb 23, 2010 16:10 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What makes a good burger? |
superdupergill wrote: I hate when you get a lamb burger and it is seasoned or mixed or served with mint. It lacks imagination. So does putting a hunk of meat in a bun. Doesn't stop it being A Good Thing. |
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| Author: | Grim... [ Tue Feb 23, 2010 16:16 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What makes a good burger? |
Hmm... http://www.byronhamburgers.com/Find-Us/wardour-street/ This is apparently the best burger place in London. Beex Meeat? |
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| Author: | sdg [ Tue Feb 23, 2010 16:17 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What makes a good burger? |
I just have an extreme dislike for mint and lamb together. I don't really know why but it annoys me. |
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| Author: | Wullie [ Tue Feb 23, 2010 16:18 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What makes a good burger? |
Grim... wrote: superdupergill wrote: I hate when you get a lamb burger and it is seasoned or mixed or served with mint. It lacks imagination. So does putting a hunk of meat in a bun. Doesn't stop it being A Good Thing. |
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| Author: | Zardoz [ Tue Feb 23, 2010 16:20 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What makes a good burger? |
Aldi's Bestestest Range Aberdeen Angus burgers were the best, quality has dropped since launch. I would have them on white barmcakes with extra mature cheddar melted on top, ketchup, jalepeno peppers and sliced gerkins. Out in the wild I haven't eaten anything better than the Cafe Zeus combo: Cheese Burger with chili sauce and mayo. CHicken tikka pieces, red salt and spicy onion relish over fries. A Big Mac and the Big Tasty are perfectly acceptable. |
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| Author: | kalmar [ Tue Feb 23, 2010 16:21 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What makes a good burger? |
I will put well seasoned chips into a burger as I'm eating it. Om nom. |
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| Author: | Doctor Glyndwr [ Tue Feb 23, 2010 16:24 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What makes a good burger? |
 Best burger I've had in recent times. I'm partial the Gourmet Burger Kitchen ones too, particularly the garlic mayo and the avocado and bacon ones. |
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| Author: | Wullie [ Tue Feb 23, 2010 16:25 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What makes a good burger? |
I had to google barms there, we call them bin lids in these parts. |
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| Author: | Malabelm [ Tue Feb 23, 2010 16:26 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What makes a good burger? |
Doctor Glyndwr wrote: Best burger I've had in recent times. It might be a lovely burger, but there's no excuse for making your food look like a puddle of vomit. |
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| Author: | Curiosity [ Tue Feb 23, 2010 16:28 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What makes a good burger? |
Anyone putting rancid processed cheese slices in a 'perfect' burger deserves to die a lonely, painful death. And they probably will. |
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| Author: | Zardoz [ Tue Feb 23, 2010 16:28 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What makes a good burger? |
I could eat a cow right now. |
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| Author: | Malabelm [ Tue Feb 23, 2010 16:28 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What makes a good burger? |
Zardoz wrote: I could eat a cow right now. Don't have a cow, man. |
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| Author: | BikNorton [ Tue Feb 23, 2010 16:29 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What makes a good burger? |
A decent-sized (8-10oz) cut of good fresh beef, ground, medium-rare and nicely charred. Jalapenos, thick crispy* bacon and chunky, thick blue cheese sauce. A slice of beef tomato, so long as it's lovely and firm and not juicy. All in a good, lightly-toasted white bun that won't go soggy. Maybe with a side of ketchup, or tomato and onion relish, for scoopy-dipping. * Enough that the fat isn't chewy, my teeth are rubbish and having to grind through fat turns a burger into an explosion. |
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| Author: | Wullie [ Tue Feb 23, 2010 16:29 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What makes a good burger? |
Malabar Front wrote: Zardoz wrote: I could eat a cow right now. Don't have a cow, man. |
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| Author: | Grim... [ Tue Feb 23, 2010 16:31 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What makes a good burger? |
I like the Big Tasty, but I find the Big Mac to be too sweet and with a bread:burger ratio that is too high. |
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| Author: | itsallwater [ Tue Feb 23, 2010 16:31 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What makes a good burger? |
Must say the best Burger I've had lately was from a standard chain pub (my new local). It was just cooked so you got no blood but all the fat. Basic cheese and bacon. Was amazing. My Girlfriends however was even better. Her burger had half a deep fried camembert placed on top of it. NUMMA! |
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| Author: | Grim... [ Tue Feb 23, 2010 16:33 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What makes a good burger? |
Curiosity wrote: Anyone putting rancid processed cheese slices in a 'perfect' burger deserves to die a lonely, painful death. Quite right. Nice ones are hard to get outside of the US, though. One of the best burgers I've had came from TJ's Burgers in Leicester. I don't think we've got any Leicester folk on the board, have we? |
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| Author: | Zardoz [ Tue Feb 23, 2010 16:35 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What makes a good burger? |
So fucking hungry. |
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