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PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 16:50 
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There was still a way to do it. Something to do with being disabled or something I don't recall. I activated Win 10 on the very first release and after 90 days it stopped my Alienware serial working on 8.1. Wasn't best pleased then, as 10 was very bad but it's gotten better. I have, however, had to reinstall it from nothing three times now as the builds I used could not be upgraded (remember that calculator mystery thing?). So yeah, kind of annoying but not much you can do about it really.

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Windows 10 has been nothing but excellent for me. You can buy OEM codes off eBay for a fiver, too


Yup I have had a couple of copies of Pro from Amazon for £8. They both needed phone activation and thankfully MS said they could not be switched ever again (which I am happy with, in case the seller sells them again !) so yeah, easy enough to get now :)

Today I hooked up everything on the desk to test, running from an external PSU (not the pump obs)

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And then started the very slow and tedious task of creating my own AS page.

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Still need to learn that, but thankfully it is very similar to AIDA 64 and a emulator I used to work with (MPU34 hilariously !)

The PA is now fitted after I made a bracket for it.

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Another 14 hour shift yesterday. It has taken me 6 days so far.

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AC is nestled in nicely down here.

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Temp drops are massive. 25c+. I can now clock the core to +225mhz (for an overall boost total of 2088-2100mhz) and max temp so far has been 41c. It usually got to mid 60s playing Fallout 4.

I am beginning to suspect that buying the cheapest rad on sale (the one I had in there before) was a mistake. I think it was very old stock tbh. Ah well, all's well that ends well. I got rid of the noise initially, and had the chance to wait until I had more cash to throw at it.

Still got to get an EL wire light for the sound card back plate (the mirror) as well as make a custom USB header cable (or you are stuck at 12v on the AC). But the main stuff is done now.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 17:50 
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Got this yesterday.

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Seriously amazing bit of kit. I forgot how much fun surround headsets were when my Turtle Beach (that I bought in the early pages of this thread) died. The amp went and there was no left channel :(

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 18:12 
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£300 for some headphones seems steep.

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£300 for some headphones seems steep.

That's where decent cans start.

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£300 for some headphones seems steep.

That's where decent cans start.


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Don't know where you shop. I can get 2 for 20p in Lidl, cheaper if I accept dents.


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I hope they're not bluetooth.


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 Post subject: Re: PC gaming hardware thread.
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I hope they're not bluetooth.

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 Post subject: Re: PC gaming hardware thread.
PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 18:24 
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£300 for some headphones seems steep.


Oucho, certainly not ! not spent that much since I bought my Grado RS2E and probably never will again.

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/b-grade- ... 1o-as.html

Came boxed as new. Even the protective stuff was still on. It turns out (hilariously) that they need a BIOS flash :D

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Or they sound like the music is being played through a piece of tinfoil. Very odd sound. Any way yeah that was a ten second fix and I've advised OCUK that it may have been the reason they got them back so they are going to flash what is left before sale :)

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£300 for some headphones seems steep.

That's where decent cans start.


Yup. The most expensive cans I ever bought were my Grado RS2E. I paid £350 sealed new, but they are £500 cans. The pads were malformed because of the way the cable has been packed, so I got £20 back. I bought a pair of the massive big pads. No change in sound at all.

And tbh? every pair of stereo headphones I have bought since those are just a waste of money. The Grados are the best headphones I've ever heard. They lack deep low down grunt but I have Beats for when I feel irresponsible. But even going away for a week and then returning home that feeling you get when you hear them again is just indescribable. The detail is frightening and the sound stage? I've seriously turned my head around thinking some one was playing a trombone behind me.

To best them I would need to spend over £500. And I am not doing that.

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 Post subject: Re: PC gaming hardware thread.
PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 15:36 
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The sorry tale of Scan continues..

The PC was collected for the 2nd time last Monday by DPD. So I called my reseller and asked them when it might be coming back.

They checked on line and said that the online tracker from Scan said they hadn't recived it.

So they called Scan and were told there is no dispute that it was collected from me, but DPD have lost it. So if its not at Scan within the next 24 hours, they will build another one and DPD pays for it (through insurance I guess)

Thinking maybe Scan rethink their delivery policy as DPD have damaged this twice in delivery and now lost it :)


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The sorry tale of Scan continues..

The PC was collected for the 2nd time last Monday by DPD. So I called my reseller and asked them when it might be coming back.

They checked on line and said that the online tracker from Scan said they hadn't recived it.

So they called Scan and were told there is no dispute that it was collected from me, but DPD have lost it. So if its not at Scan within the next 24 hours, they will build another one and DPD pays for it (through insurance I guess)

Thinking maybe Scan rethink their delivery policy as DPD have damaged this twice in delivery and now lost it :)


Sounds like the stuff of my worst nightmares. I truly shudder to think...

Well I decided to put some old parts to use. I dug out the X99 Alienware board I lobbed into the closet last July.

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Bought another ES CPU for cheap (this one) https://ark.intel.com/products/92981/In ... e-2_20-GHz

And bought a new water block on clearance.

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I will need to get new "arms" for it as it is a AM3 bracket. They are easily gotten though and not too much money :) then I will be upgrading Dianoga from the Phenom 2 X6 with 8gb DDR2.

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Because it's really showing its age now. Not bought any DDR4 for it yet. Dreading it tbh :(

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 19:23 
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Yay X99 arms and new 45 degs ordered !

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Not looking forward to draining it. Always messy lol.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 21:02 
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So Scan have come back with more problems, they took 4 days longer to confirm they would build another PC at the expense of DPD

Then they came back with some more excuses about not having cooling parts and telling my reseller it would be 26th of February.

You can go to their website and right now and they will tell you that the same PC is on next day delivery :roll:

So I cancelled it, waiting to get the confirmation and then will probably get an Alienware as at least I know Dell will deliver it.

Dell looked to have dropped Intel CPU's in Area 51 so looking at their AMD Ryzen™ Threadripper 1950X model 16 cores in a CPU!


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16 threads. Eight cores.

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I know you're not gonna want to hear this but please, avoid the TR Alienware. The board is not good enough, the cooling is not good enough (it just throttles) and so on. It really isn't a good TR platform. It was poorly thought through, IMO.

If it weren't for GPU prices being silly I would go to OCUK. 8 Pack makes some awesome systems. But it's just crazy right now :(

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 21:41 
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Sorry Fish was pushed for time earlier.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=decz1N9YpOw

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 Post subject: Re: PC gaming hardware thread.
PostPosted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 23:35 
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I'm in need of some advice - I usually build my own PC every few years and my current one is now about 7 years old and getting pretty creaky. This time though I can't be bothered to build my own, I just want a decent, off the shelf unit.

Main critera:

- Decent CPU and video card (doesn't have to be the best, a rung or two down the ladder is fine) - 8GB RAM
- Tower case
- No LEDs (or LEDs that can easily be disconnected)
- Plain, flat top (no air vents or buttons as I need to place things on top of it due to limited space)
- Provided with (or space for) a front-loading Blu-ray drive (I have one in my current PC which I could swap over)
- SATA capability
- At least two or three PCIe slots
- Space for at least two 3.5" hard drives
- Decent motherboard - I've always liked ASUS so that would be good but am happy to go for anything that's better

I'll be using it for a bit of gaming, a bit of emulation (I'd like to try the Wii emulator Dolphin for example), a bit of general work-related stuff, etc

Looking to spend maybe £1,000 or less but may go higher if required

Any ideas please?


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http://store.hp.com/UKStore/Merch/Produ ... BU&sel=DTP

You couldn't even build it for that.

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I'm in need of some advice - I usually build my own PC every few years and my current one is now about 7 years old and getting pretty creaky. This time though I can't be bothered to build my own, I just want a decent, off the shelf unit.

Main critera:

- Decent CPU and video card (doesn't have to be the best, a rung or two down the ladder is fine) - 8GB RAM
- Tower case
- No LEDs (or LEDs that can easily be disconnected)
- Plain, flat top (no air vents or buttons as I need to place things on top of it due to limited space)
- Provided with (or space for) a front-loading Blu-ray drive (I have one in my current PC which I could swap over)
- SATA capability
- At least two or three PCIe slots
- Space for at least two 3.5" hard drives
- Decent motherboard - I've always liked ASUS so that would be good but am happy to go for anything that's better

I'll be using it for a bit of gaming, a bit of emulation (I'd like to try the Wii emulator Dolphin for example), a bit of general work-related stuff, etc

Looking to spend maybe £1,000 or less but may go higher if required

Any ideas please?


This won PC Pro's 'all round PCs for £800' labs review this month.

https://www.palicomp.co.uk/amd-gravity-ryz1

As you've got £200 left in your budget you can tweak the specs a bit as well.

Seems to tick all of your boxes.

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Thanks for the recommendations (not so sure about the Xbox 360 though .............. :) )


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This won PC Pro's 'all round PCs for £800' labs review this month.

https://www.palicomp.co.uk/amd-gravity-ryz1

As you've got £200 left in your budget you can tweak the specs a bit as well.

Seems to tick all of your boxes.

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Looks very much like the same case as my pc.

i can confirm it's not heavy on the LEDs, and should have a flat top. (It came with a plastc top which can nbe removed and replaced with a mesh top to allow cooling. obviously,if it's top cooled out of the build, this will cause issues utting stuff on it)


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Sorry Fish was pushed for time earlier.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=decz1N9YpOw


See what you mean heavy and hot, still getting overall good reviews, most people say its overkill for gaming though.

Also noticed that Alienware have pulled all the Intel Options for the Area 51 now, so you can only order AMD


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 12:09 
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It's a nice machine. The case is a bit messy inside and I spent way too long changing that but it is lovely and solid. I guess if you are not super heavy on it (IE loading up all 32 threads all of the time) it should be OK, and you can always upgrade the cooler at another time (for a fatter rad of the same size).

I'm not surprised they are not using high end Intels after the couple of weeks I've had. Intel have now basically come out and said "Don't use the patch". I'm running a 14 core Broadwell E and I have had nothing but troubles since that bloody patch installed. Ranging from random reboots, BSODs (on a 95w CPU you can't overclock) to programs I had outright refusing to run.

Last week I got up in the morning and started the PC. It sat there at the MSI logo with the spinning thing (UEFI) for about 30 minutes. I restarted it again and it took ages to even show the logo, and failed again. Eventually it did boot and it's been OK since then but yeah, not good. I've heard similar stories from people using Haswell E and Broadwell E rigs.

I think when I install my 10 core at some point over the next two weeks I am going to get a pro key and just disable updates. It won't have any critical info on it and tbh I've never been hacked before. I also noticed Trillian was down for about 40 hours about two days after this all came to light too.

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 Post subject: Re: PC gaming hardware thread.
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I seem to be having a pig of a job finding a case that:

a) Has a solid, plain, unadorned metal top

and:

b) Has an easily accessible space at the upper front for a Blu-ray drive (I don't want to faff around openning a door each time i use the drive).

This is going from here:

https://www.palicomp.co.uk/index.php?op ... d=291&md=1

I can find a case with one or the other (but not both) on their site. I guess I'll have to phone them tomorrow but I would also assume that Palicomp can order a case if I can find one that's suitable? I usually go for Coolermaster cases.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 15:34 
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Most manus are doing away with the optical drive bay now. Even for people who use it for water cooling.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/i/382336531584?c ... 043&crdt=0

Could well do the trick. A few things do worry me about that Palicomp, though, so I figured it would be best to say something so you don't discover it later. Some of the caveats may not matter to you, though.

Firstly the GTX 1060 in there is a 3gb model. It's slightly slower than the 6gb for a few reasons but most importantly 3gb is beginning to struggle at 1080p now. You really want at least a 4gb card but it would depend on whether gaming is going to be the main thing you do on it.

The PSU is also cack. 450w is just about enough but if you ever wanted to upgrade the GPU in the future you will find that it's not enough to run a higher end faster GPU. It is literally on the borderline, and 80+ Bronze means it is a very low end unit, as most of the good ones are pushing gold at the very least now and titanium at the higher end. I would want a 550w personally speaking. That would cover you much better going into the future.

See if you can upgrade the PSU at least. The 3gb 1060 will be fine for 1080p but you may find yourself reducing detail over the coming months. As I said though, that may or may not matter to you. The sticking point for me is it's closing in on a grand for a very much mid range PC, and at the lower end of that. That is why I have not bought a single retail CPU in about three years and now only buy very cut price Xeons that are engineering samples that Intel gave away free.

But RAM prices and GPU prices are crazy atm, meaning you get a lot less than you used to. I was looking at a Custom PC magazine from 2009 yesterday and a PC of that sort of stature used to cost about £450-£500. And that included either an I3 Clarkdale or Pentium (both overclocked like stink and were more than enough for the time) with 4gb ram (again more than enough then) and a GTX 460 768mb (right around the same sort of stature as the 1060 3gb).

Which would make me not want to buy anything, and buy a bloody console instead. If GPU prices continue to soar that's exactly what I will be doing in a couple of years.

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