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PostPosted: Fri Oct 25, 2019 20:07 
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Not having an SSD in a PC in this day and age is mental; don't do it.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 25, 2019 20:23 
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Not having an SSD in a PC in this day and age is mental; don't do it.


Dial up to broadband feels.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 0:11 
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JohnCoffey wrote:
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Not having an SSD in a PC in this day and age is mental; don't do it.


Dial up to broadband feels.


I think that's a pretty good way to summarise the feeling actually.

I've put SSDs into old (ish) laptops and desktops and it really does breathe new life into them.

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All sorted, windows on the SSD. It's quick! Really painless upgrade as well.


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 Post subject: Re: PC gaming hardware thread.
PostPosted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 21:10 
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Looking at some of the videos of the new Microsoft Flight Sim, I can see a PC upgrade in my future.
It would be nice if could get away with just a graphics card but I think that might be optimistic.
It's a Dell XPS from 2013 with an i7 and 12GB RAM so wasn't a bad machine, but will it be worth sticking with?


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 21:18 
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Dr Zoidberg wrote:
Looking at some of the videos of the new Microsoft Flight Sim, I can see a PC upgrade in my future.
It would be nice if could get away with just a graphics card but I think that might be optimistic.
It's a Dell XPS from 2013 with an i7 and 12GB RAM so wasn't a bad machine, but will it be worth sticking with?


I think new shiny would spark more joy.

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 Post subject: Re: PC gaming hardware thread.
PostPosted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 21:35 
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Dr Zoidberg wrote:
Looking at some of the videos of the new Microsoft Flight Sim, I can see a PC upgrade in my future.
It would be nice if could get away with just a graphics card but I think that might be optimistic.
It's a Dell XPS from 2013 with an i7 and 12GB RAM so wasn't a bad machine, but will it be worth sticking with?

What variant of i7 is it?


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 Post subject: Re: PC gaming hardware thread.
PostPosted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 22:32 
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Dr Zoidberg wrote:
Looking at some of the videos of the new Microsoft Flight Sim, I can see a PC upgrade in my future.
It would be nice if could get away with just a graphics card but I think that might be optimistic.
It's a Dell XPS from 2013 with an i7 and 12GB RAM so wasn't a bad machine, but will it be worth sticking with?

What I would do instead of getting all giddy about some new flight sim that's not even finished yet and upgrading my PC is wait until it's actually out and then see what to get.


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 Post subject: Re: PC gaming hardware thread.
PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 0:39 
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Dr Zoidberg wrote:
Looking at some of the videos of the new Microsoft Flight Sim, I can see a PC upgrade in my future.
It would be nice if could get away with just a graphics card but I think that might be optimistic.
It's a Dell XPS from 2013 with an i7 and 12GB RAM so wasn't a bad machine, but will it be worth sticking with?

What I would do instead of getting all giddy about some new flight sim that's not even finished yet and upgrading my PC is wait until it's actually out and then see what to get.


Upgrade now, and then upgrade again when the flight sim comes out. It's the BEEX way

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 Post subject: Re: PC gaming hardware thread.
PostPosted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:36 
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I updated windows yesterday evening before bed.
Woke up this morning and it won't even boot. Hangs at the BIOS splash screen, I can't even get into the BIOS.
It's dead innit?

I've tried removing the graphics card and running on motherboard graphics, reseating the ram, swapping out the ram sticks and only running on one, unplugging each hard disk in turn, unplugging all peripherals.

Not sure what else I can do, if I can't even get into the BIOS. Plugging in a USB drive with a linux rescue disk on it does nothing either.


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 Post subject: Re: PC gaming hardware thread.
PostPosted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:44 
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I updated windows yesterday evening before bed.
Woke up this morning and it won't even boot. Hangs at the BIOS splash screen, I can't even get into the BIOS.
It's dead innit?

I've tried removing the graphics card and running on motherboard graphics, reseating the ram, swapping out the ram sticks and only running on one, unplugging each hard disk in turn, unplugging all peripherals.

Not sure what else I can do, if I can't even get into the BIOS. Plugging in a USB drive with a linux rescue disk on it does nothing either.


Does it make any beeps when it loads? Also can you hear the fans power up?

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Fans power up, no beeps.
If I pull the first ram stick it beeps at me, when I put it back in the slot no beeps, hangs at the BIOS loadup screen.


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 Post subject: Re: PC gaming hardware thread.
PostPosted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:48 
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Have you tried turning it off and on again?


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 Post subject: Re: PC gaming hardware thread.
PostPosted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:53 
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I tried turning it off, step 2 confused me


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 Post subject: Re: PC gaming hardware thread.
PostPosted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:54 
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I tried turning it off, step 2 confused me

Right, t by e solution then is:

Buy an XBox 360


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 Post subject: Re: PC gaming hardware thread.
PostPosted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 10:08 
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Is there a BIOS reset jumper on the mobo?

Remove everything except CPU, one RAM stick and keyboard, connect monitor to onboard GFX, reset bios and see anything happens.


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 Post subject: Re: PC gaming hardware thread.
PostPosted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 10:12 
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I'm coming to the conclusion that either the CPU or motherboard ist kaput.
I can't even get the BIOS to load past the splash screen with everything unplugged, no hard disks, no SSD, no CD drive, no graphics card, single ram stick.


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 Post subject: Re: PC gaming hardware thread.
PostPosted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 10:14 
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I'll pull the CMOS battery for an hour, see what happens...


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 Post subject: Re: PC gaming hardware thread.
PostPosted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 10:37 
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Make that 15 minutes.

Wouldn't boot without the battery in (to be expected)
put battery in
started up, nothing on monitor, rebooted twice... hung at Lenovo splash screen again.


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 Post subject: Re: PC gaming hardware thread.
PostPosted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 10:41 
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BIOS reset as DavPaz suggests? Could perhaps be a PSU problem too. It's not really often that motherboards or CPUs fail, in fact I'm not sure I've ever seen it.


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 Post subject: Re: PC gaming hardware thread.
PostPosted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 11:01 
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I've pulled the battery which should reset the BIOS (no jumper as far as I can tell)
PSU was new not long ago, when I bought my graphics card.


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 Post subject: Re: PC gaming hardware thread.
PostPosted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 11:11 
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While I don't think the motherboard is "faulty" as such, I had problems with a previous windows update due to Lenovo being dicks and not knowing how to code anything. I suspect it has gone into lockdown mode because something changed due to the windows update, and that has fucked everything.


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 Post subject: Re: PC gaming hardware thread.
PostPosted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 11:17 
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A PSU being new doesn't necessarily make it much less likely to be the culprit.


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 Post subject: Re: PC gaming hardware thread.
PostPosted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 11:20 
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It being new, good quality, never showing any issues till now, and everything getting power, doesn't lead me to believe that the PSU is the likely culprit though...


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 Post subject: Re: PC gaming hardware thread.
PostPosted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 12:08 
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I might as well use the opportunity to get rid of the last remnants of my Lenovo desktop, with its shitty non-standard motherboard and fucking awful BIOS.

https://www.cclonline.com/product/29937 ... B-AMD-KAL/

This seems good value, but I need a Hearthly or a JC to tell me what to get for around £300.


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I might as well use the opportunity to get rid of the last remnants of my Lenovo desktop, with its shitty non-standard motherboard and fucking awful BIOS.

https://www.cclonline.com/product/29937 ... B-AMD-KAL/

This seems good value, but I need a Hearthly or a JC to tell me what to get for around £300.

Or a Mr Dave.

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 Post subject: Re: PC gaming hardware thread.
PostPosted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 13:06 
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Although, this seems better value

https://www.awd-it.co.uk/amd-ryzen-5-36 ... undle.html

Looks like the newer 5 3600 is better than the older 7 2700x, even with fewer cores.


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 Post subject: Re: PC gaming hardware thread.
PostPosted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 13:42 
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Well, it had better be the correct choice, as i'm annoyed and impatient, so i've ordered it.


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 Post subject: Re: PC gaming hardware thread.
PostPosted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 13:46 
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I got this from there last week:

https://www.awd-it.co.uk/amd-ryzen-5-36 ... undle.html

It seems decent but my only benchmark is the thing it replaced that's five years old. It all just worked when I plugged it all together, though.


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That's comforting at least :)


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 Post subject: Re: PC gaming hardware thread.
PostPosted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 14:10 
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Although, this seems better value

https://www.awd-it.co.uk/amd-ryzen-5-36 ... undle.html

Looks like the newer 5 3600 is better than the older 7 2700x, even with fewer cores.

OMG, not the 5 3600! You should've got the 5 3550x!


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 14:11 
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No, you did right. 3550x fanboys are the fucking worst.


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 Post subject: Re: PC gaming hardware thread.
PostPosted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 17:11 
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If you're gaming 3600. If you're running VM, streaming and encoding 2700x.

3600 better IPC and higher clocks (good for low Res gaming) but 2700x still has the edge when all cores are being used.

You can't go wrong with any Ryzen tbh. That's what I was going to say. They're all pretty shit hot for the money.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 18:20 
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Ooo you bloody arseholes.

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Finally a decent priced RTX card. Right at the time my Vega 64 is giving me all sorts of shit.

Crumbled. I am weak. Still, it came with a £40+ game I would have purchased any way, and performs around the same as my Titan XP. Which is nice. The Vega 64? well that doesn't perform well at all really. It's touted in GPUZ as a 1600 odd mhz card. Fat fucking chance. Even pushed to the limit it will only do 1500 or so, and then it gets very loud, angry and hot and crashes. The only way I can get it dependably stable for long gaming sessions is to shove it in "Radeon chill" which clocks it to about 1200mhz.

I would say it's the last high end AMD card I am ever getting, but to be honest for £200 a year ago it was a steal.

So, that is going into what was going to be my FO76 server to make another complete gaming PC for my bedroom.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 04, 2019 21:54 
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Well it came and I am immensely impressed. I guess I have AMD to thank for bringing out the 5700 cards.

I have a Titan XP in my machine at home, and I wasn't expecting the 2070s to quite match it, given people all say the 2070s is on par with the 1080Ti. This is not true. I have my machine at home overclocked and extensively water cooled to the point of saturation. What I mean is there is no more clock available on anything in it, and it's not a thermal barrier. This is my Titan XP at 2100mhz. Which is super impressive, given 1080Ti crap out at around 2000mhz.

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And this is the 2070 Super, on air cooling with a +150 on the core. I've not touched the memory, it always worries me.

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So if it's faster than a Titan XP on water (which is faster than any 1080Ti) on air then it's a good chunk faster than a 1080Ti. Which is about the best value I've seen out of Nvidia since the original Titan and 780.

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I hate that the report is formatted to look like a tatty piece of paper

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I hate that the report is formatted to look like a tatty piece of paper


It's Unigene Super Position. It's old fashioned, and has pictures of Tesla etc on the walls.

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markg wrote:
Your face is formatted to look like a tatty piece of paper.


It's even more wrinkled up now >:|

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The only thing left of my old Lenovo machine is the case now, as I've just installed the motherboard and CPU.

Guess what has completely non standard power button cabling, so I cant even turn the fucking thing on.

New case from Amazon on its way...


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 21:03 
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Screwdriver across the jumper will do the trick.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 21:25 
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Or a momentary switch.

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Now that I have a full PC without a case I was needing a case. This will be my TV gaming PC.

Last week I managed to do this to a previously pristine example of a 2004 Alienware case.

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I was absolutely devastated. I thought about repairing it, but the whole thing is so brittle (being 15 years old) that I don't think it's a good idea to load it up with very heavy hardware. So instead I scoured OCUK's clearance section and found this.

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What did you do to the Alienware? That little crack?


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 15:34 
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Yeah it's not so little in person :(

I took the panels off and was pulling stuff out of the inner chassis and the inner chassis toppled over and landed on that ^

The problem is that not only did it crack that in half (making the entire bottom floppy) but it also broke all of the tags that hold the plastic to the inner metal panel. So it would need like, extensive repair. Then lots of modding. It's that I am trying to avoid.

I'll epoxy it sorta thing, but I just don't think it's a good idea to load it up with really heavy parts. It's extremely brittle :(

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I'm back and more led than ever.

New motherboard and case sorted it all out.


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Yay unicorn farts!

I put in 7 fans yesterday. Not been out of bed in a week so it felt good. I'm an SSD away from a full PC now.

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Next problem, I can't activate Windows 10 Home anymore, as my hardware is changed. I have a valid product key, but it says no. Trying to use the automated tools gets me nowhere.

Bloody computers.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 20:33 
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Next problem, I can't activate Windows 10 Home anymore, as my hardware is changed. I have a valid product key, but it says no. Trying to use the automated tools gets me nowhere.

Bloody computers.

You *don't* have a valid key. Your hardware has changed. HTH HAND


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