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Author:  DavPaz [ Thu Nov 12, 2009 10:54 ]
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I did a-level maths. Can't remember a thing from it now though.
Author:  myp [ Thu Nov 12, 2009 10:54 ]
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I was good at maths at school, but not amazing. Looking back, I wish I'd gone for more wishy washy subjects like drama and music.
Author:  KovacsC [ Thu Nov 12, 2009 10:55 ]
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I did a Btec in Electronics, but it covered engneering and a lot of maths..
Author:  kalmar [ Thu Nov 12, 2009 10:55 ]
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Craster wrote:
I did take maths, and was fucking brilliant at it. Then I did the one module of my degree that actually required maths (simulations & modelling) and I was completely fucking clueless. Still, 41% got the job done.


I think I got a similar score for the maths module of my degree. Still,. I didn't feel bad because I was fully aware that I was shit at maths.
Author:  kalmar [ Thu Nov 12, 2009 10:56 ]
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myp wrote:
I was good at maths at school, but not amazing. Looking back, I wish I'd gone for more wishy washy subjects like drama and music.


I knew you were a drama student at heart.
Author:  myp [ Thu Nov 12, 2009 10:57 ]
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kalmar wrote:
myp wrote:
I was good at maths at school, but not amazing. Looking back, I wish I'd gone for more wishy washy subjects like drama and music.


I knew you were a drama student at heart.

Heh, I was really good at acting when I was a teenager. I performed in various musicals and Shakespeare productions (not gay, honest). Giving it up is probably one of my biggest regrets.
Author:  KovacsC [ Thu Nov 12, 2009 10:58 ]
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Join an AmDram group then..
Author:  kalmar [ Thu Nov 12, 2009 10:59 ]
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KovacsC wrote:
Join an internet forum then..


FTFY
Author:  Mr Dave [ Thu Nov 12, 2009 11:02 ]
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kalmar wrote:
Craster wrote:
You don't need great maths to learn to program, and you certainly don't need to know binary. Can you break a task down into a series of logical, repeatable steps? If so, then you can write code.


Quite. You only need to know maths if you're going to program something that involves maths. Like, a custom graphics routine.


There has been a common thread in all the good programmers I know. Can you guess what it is? Aye, a certain talent for maths, not necessarily mathematical knowledge.

It's not that you need the maths per se, it's in the way the mind works. (Of course, if you do the kind of things I do, which admittedly, includes shaders for graphics, You realistically need a very good maths education or the ability to teach yourself such things)
Author:  myp [ Thu Nov 12, 2009 11:03 ]
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KovacsC wrote:
Join an AmDram group then..

I don't think I'm up to a good enough standard these days. Plus my confidence isn't all it used to be.
Author:  devilman [ Thu Nov 12, 2009 11:06 ]
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myp wrote:
I was good at maths at school, but not amazing. Looking back, I wish I'd gone for more wishy washy subjects like drama and music.


I wish I'd taken anything other than Maths as I'm just hopeless at it. It was the first year of it being split into modules with the first year being Pure Maths 1 and 2 with a score out of 12 for each module and until I re-took them later, I had 0/12 in both. :)
Author:  Zardoz [ Thu Nov 12, 2009 11:08 ]
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myp wrote:
Giving it up is probably one of my biggest regrets.

You would have been awesome hobbit.
Author:  kalmar [ Thu Nov 12, 2009 11:13 ]
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Mr Dave wrote:
There has been a common thread in all the good programmers I know. Can you guess what it is? Aye, a certain talent for maths, not necessarily mathematical knowledge.

It's not that you need the maths per se, it's in the way the mind works.


I wish that were true for me - I am reasonably good at programming, but can't maths my way out of a wet paper bag.

I immediately forget all the basic rules for algebra, I couldn't even do long division without a book to refer to. Just not good with numbers at all :S

Calculus I could do, weirdly.
Author:  DavPaz [ Thu Nov 12, 2009 11:16 ]
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kalmar wrote:
a book to refer to

Bingo. Go into any programmers office and what do you see? Big thick reference books. You really don't have to learn anything :)
Author:  Grim... [ Thu Nov 12, 2009 11:17 ]
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Mr Dave wrote:
There has been a common thread in all the good programmers I know. Can you guess what it is? Aye, a certain talent for maths, not necessarily mathematical knowledge.

:this:
It's being able to think in a logical way.
You don't need to be able to do long division - the computer can do that for you. You just need to know that you need something divided.

I have to admit that I don't own any programming books (except for one about jQuery*, but I've not read it). I have books about UI and scalability and stuff, but no actual language books. I use the Internet to look stuff up.

*Yeah, I know
Author:  Malabelm [ Thu Nov 12, 2009 11:39 ]
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Grim... wrote:
I have to admit that I don't own any programming books (except for one about jQuery*, but I've not read it).

*Yeah, I know


You never did send me that, you sod. Work bought it for me instead. It's not particularly brilliant.

But, yes, I'm shit at maths itself, but I can usually see what needs to be done. My experiences with any sort of coding have definitely been down to logic and thinking in different ways. Also: most of the problems I have get fixed subconsciously in my head when I take a break.
Author:  Grim... [ Thu Nov 12, 2009 11:42 ]
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Jesus, I forgot all about that!
I'm really sorry, man. Fuck, that dropped out of my brain completely.
Author:  Zardoz [ Thu Nov 12, 2009 11:53 ]
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Can we get back to discussing Myps thespianism please?
Author:  DavPaz [ Thu Nov 12, 2009 11:56 ]
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Zardoz wrote:
Can we get back to discussing Myps thespianism please?

We're waiting for the inevitable myp's head on Hamlet's body picture.

*waits*
Author:  MrD [ Thu Nov 12, 2009 12:03 ]
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Quote:
I can confirm that python is like eating rocks.

FTFY
Author:  Malabelm [ Thu Nov 12, 2009 12:05 ]
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Grim... wrote:
Jesus, I forgot all about that!
I'm really sorry, man. Fuck, that dropped out of my brain completely.


Heh. No worries. It wasn't worth the hassle, anyway: it spends half the book working through really boring examples, and the first half is nothing you couldn't learn more succinctly reading the jQuery site itself.
Author:  KovacsC [ Thu Nov 12, 2009 12:05 ]
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myp wrote:
KovacsC wrote:
Join an AmDram group then..

I don't think I'm up to a good enough standard these days. Plus my confidence isn't all it used to be.


What have you got to lose.. It will help with both.
Author:  Cras [ Thu Nov 12, 2009 12:22 ]
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Mr Dave wrote:
It's not that you need the maths per se, it's in the way the mind works.


Oh, certainly - you need to have the sort of mind that would be good at maths, you just don't necessarily need the skills themselves.
Author:  Cras [ Thu Nov 12, 2009 12:24 ]
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DavPaz wrote:
kalmar wrote:
a book to refer to

Bingo. Go into any programmers office and what do you see? Big thick reference books. You really don't have to learn anything :)


And I have no idea why, given the thing they're coding on generally has access to this big old reference book called the innerneh.
Author:  kalmar [ Thu Nov 12, 2009 12:25 ]
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Yeah, I don't actually have any reference books I use TBH.
Author:  Zardoz [ Thu Nov 12, 2009 12:44 ]
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To BeeX or not to BeeX
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Author:  myp [ Thu Nov 12, 2009 12:46 ]
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Brilliant.
Author:  Mr Dave [ Thu Nov 12, 2009 15:34 ]
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Myp, what did you do to Zardoz?!

Never touch me with your tongue.
Author:  myp [ Thu Nov 12, 2009 15:35 ]
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Mr Dave wrote:
Myp, what did you do to Zardoz?!

I gobbled him up, then Ange spat him out on her tits.
Author:  Dimrill [ Thu Nov 12, 2009 15:36 ]
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Are those my eyes in that skull?
Author:  Zardoz [ Thu Nov 12, 2009 16:43 ]
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Yes, and your Jim Davidsons hair.
Author:  Anonymous X [ Fri Nov 13, 2009 2:49 ]
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myp wrote:
I was also told to take maths at A level if I wanted to work with computers. Cunts.

It's a requirement for many Computer Science degrees, so it kind of is. Depends on if you want to take/are capable of the 'academic' (professional) or 'hands on' (technician) route, really.

I failed my GCSE in IT incidentally, but it was all Acorn Risc PCs at school then, so no great loss.

So, yeah, still not sure of what to do computer wise.

EDIT: Probably a basic website, if there's no outlay. Yeah, that'll do.
Author:  MaliA [ Sun Oct 22, 2017 22:24 ]
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MaliA wrote:
If I can write an FPSMMORPG then anyone can.

Malicious Afterthought wrote:
Images Representative of Actual Gameplay:

Image
Player characters abttle for supremacy in this persistent world FPS MMORPG

Image
Here, a player character is confronted by a higher level player character

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NPCs can be attacked to gain valuable XP. Significant resources were used to make NPCs act in a way as a human would and all have distinct personality traits which control their actions.


Butr do also ask "What you wish to learn" and "Why do you want to learn this". Them's the important stuffs I guess. That and ordering a Megan Fox poster.



Fuck's sake
Author:  Kern [ Sun Oct 22, 2017 22:30 ]
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I liked the correction at the bottom.
Author:  Warhead [ Sun Oct 22, 2017 23:05 ]
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Anonymous X wrote:
I just thought, perhaps I need to improve my computer skills. I only use the Internet browser, iPhoto and iTunes on my Mac, and not a clue how to use or do much else, like set up wifi. Is there any sort of skills I could learn with my computer, possibly any that might help with getting jobs, for example?



So, what happened? Did he learn any useful skilz? If so, we’re girls throwing themselves at him? I think we should be told.

In my case, I had a couple of female staff give me a peck on the cheek for solving practical problems for them. And one female Director of Somethingorother who said she wanted to marry me after I found 5 years worth of work belonging to her whole team that had accidentally been dragged into a sub folder, that everyone thought had been deleted and that our IT services provider could not restore from backup because backups had been failing for weeks, but they hadn’t told anyone about it. Questions were asked at ministerial level about THAT cock up.
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