Other albums I hate are anything by Rod Stewart...

Toploader - Dancing In The Moonlight

The Lighthouse Family - Lifted

EDIT: Actually, how about we put this album together, and anyone booted off the forum has to prove that they've listened to the whole thing before they're allowed back on?

Who were those bastards that did that cunting "The female of the species in more deadly than the maaaaaalllle" bag of fucking wank?

Needs more 'James'

oddly this is one of the few places where that sentence will ever apply.

I had the misfortune of seeing them supporting The Cure er... 18 fucking years ago. What massive shit they were.

That is such a galactically wrong statement I'm amazed that the entire space-time continuinuinuum hasn't just imploded.

If it is the tall black singer that is married to Vanessa Feltz, may I just say that this sexy interracial celebrity couple idea wasn't nearly as vomit-inducing in my imagination.

It is indeed the large gentleman of colour.

for James?

seriously, even if I'm wrong they're just James. massively insignificant band remembered mostly for that awful college anthem they did. and no, I never did even once sit down to it.

They still draw in pretty big crowds and sell out instantaneously when they do gigs.

No, you're wrong, it's "Sit Down". I've never even heard of Laid, and I've been to so many shitty indie studenty nights that if I never ever hear "Blister In The Sun" again, it'll be too soon.

And sometimes it's She's a Starrrrrromgfalsetto!!!

So do Simply Red, though. Having a loyal fanbase of mentally retarded people does not make them good.

No, I'm not wrong that I've found that people tend to remember "Laid" rather than "Sit Down". I sympathise with you that that awful song "Sit Down" is the one that's stuck with you and that you've missed out on the excellence of "Laid", but there we are.

REM did "Shiny Happy People", so everyone has off days.

I'm not sure that anyone except you has ever made a big deal out of the falsetto. And why would they? Plenty of other male singers do it, and it's hardly a ground breaking technique or anything.

Say what you like about how shit Simply Red and Mick Hucknall's Pink Pancakes are, but they're not insignificant in terms of presence in the market. In talent, yes, but not sales.

Fairly weak arugment there, man.

And why hasn't Crazy Frog made it?

Yeah, but are you smiling and saying 'Surely you remember Laid more?' in a charismatic fashion?

REM have been largely shite now for over a decade.

When they came back with the album which 'She's A Star' is on, I kept seeing them on the Chart Show and other such insipid shows. All just playing the same 'STARRRRRRR' bit whilst saying 'You have a lovely voice, tell us about how you keep it so lovely'. Gnurgh.

Well, Simply Red have just been put on ice actually, they no longer exist.

In any case, my argument is that having strong sales is no mark of quality, only of popularity. And popularity is no mark of quality, only of persuasion.

well, regardless of that James got their onstage arses handed to them by The Cure, Lush and All About Eve that day.

Never heard 'Laid'. although they probably played it.

She's A Star was them? I thought that was Suede. that song could make this album.

that said (read: olive branch), bad (read: not to my taste) late 80s/early 90s indie was vastly better than mid 90s-present day indie.

I came of age in the 90s too, just more tastefully. Mr. Chris do you own the Menswear album?

Nothing until 94. Then it was grunge... and British bands such as the Wildhearts. Then more stuff like Sonic Youth, and Aphex Twin. I quite like Pulp. 'New Adventures In Hi-Fi' came out in 1997 or 1996, by the way.

for James?

seriously, even if I'm wrong they're just James. massively insignificant band remembered mostly for that awful college anthem they did. and no, I never did even once sit down to it.

But James are actually very, very good. And its a shame that song was so massively overplayed. Their best of is shamelessly anthemic, but the albums themselves contain a fair few golden nuggets.

My fave James song is Sometimes. Go and listen to it and revise opinions accordingly.

Also, can we please have Sandi Thom's 'I Wish I Was a Punk Rocker (With Flowers In My Hair)' or whatever the fuck it's called in. They really were long haired garlanded sandal wearing hippy freaks weren't they, The Sex Pistols?

My fave Sonic Youth song is Tunic. Man, that's an amazing song.

think that whilst Vauxhall & I is one of the bestest albums of the 90's that Morrissey has been also mostly ever since"