Be Excellent To Each Other

It's a bit of a drift, but when I was in Turkey, I was VERY close to buying my girlfriend of the time a fox-fur coat. I dunno if I could have gotten it back through customs, though, but it was aboslutely fantastic.

At serious risk of offending and starting a debate, has anyone ever met a vegan/veggie who doesn't try to push their morals in your face? I don't go around suggesting they eat burgers.

I imagine I've met lots. I didn't know they were vegetarians, though, because they didn't push their morals in my face.

Hello!

I think this is where most anti-vegan/veggie sentiment comes around, and the reason that some people do try to 'trip them up' with questions about leather, wool etc (not insinuating anyone did that here, etc).

I have no problem with people wanting to be a veggie, a vegan or a pescetarian (my gf was one of the latter for years and years) - just as long as they're not totally evangelical about it, and claim moral superiority. At that point they get filed in the same box as an unfriendly Jehovah's Witness.

Each to their own, etc.

What were you pushing in my face? You told me it was morals! I knew morals weren't quite that sticky.

I hate to say it, but as soon as most people find out I'm a veggie, I generally get a shitload of "Meeeeaaaaat! Meat! meatmeatmeat! RARRRRRRE MEAT!" comments shoved in my face.

This is because we're morally superior, obv.

What's wrong with meat then, yer weirdo?

That's just the tip, it's smoother towards the base of the shaft.

I think that's just the zombie's way of asking you to lay his laminate flooring.

As I mentioned earlier, my vegan friend and my vege sister. And Pupil, if I recall correctly, never made a meal of it when I worked with him in good ol' Kirkstall library*. And I have met others. I have no time for those who do try and push it in your face though. A relaxed debate that comes about organically is fine though.

*Shit! I worked with Pupil! What are the chances!? Mind-boggling relapse! Etc.

Yes, I can't think of a single one who would do that.



You'll often find that some people can't resist having a go at anyone they perceive as being a bit different from the norm. It's quite poor really.



I get the impression that everyone on this forum shares a flat in Brighton or somewhere

I have a suddenly-vegan friend, and talking to her excitedly about the meal I made is really no fun at all, for either of us (although I'm beginning to suspect she enjoys deflating me).

"Oh, and hon... hang on. I don't suppose you can have honey? Do insects count, and .. well, they're not mistreated, generally.... No. Okay. Well, there was rice, as well, and chili. But without the honey it's a bit pointless. Sigh. Well, I also made biscui... oh for FUCK'S SAKE."

Quorn burgers are pretty neato, and they cook much more quickly and leave less mess, and most likely have far more nutritional value than beefburgers or mince of a similar price. The sausages are an acquired taste, but not unpleasant.

I know literally no vegan recipes at all (discounting my infamous "some oats" specialty). If any joker brings a vegan to a party I'm catering for, I'll probably cry and run out into the night, never to return. Not that I have a problem with them - just with catering for them, the buggers. Even vegetarians cause me trouble in that regard (I tried bacon and mustard tattie cakes without the bacon to cater for a girlfriend-of once, which pretty much put everyone present off my cooking forever. Bitch).

I used to work in one of her factories, I SWEAR I smelt meat in that place every day.
Also, really horrid place to work.

Vegans are cruel man, Fruitarianism FTW!

Ooh! That would be an ace Super-Evil Corporate Doctor Who villain reveal!

McCartney Green

Zombie-Vege-Heston: "It's made from animals!"

WORSE! It's made from vegans! 100% guaranteed no animals hurt in the production of these sausages.

Oh I bet they taste really bitter then.

I've met plenty who don't - at the risk of sounding like a twunt, some of my best friends are vegetarian. However, there are plenty who will try to push it on you, usually those who think they are "superior" because of it. It's probably a small proportion over all, but seems like more because they are more noticable.

I've also met plenty of veggies who do not..only met one Vegan. They did not either.

You're all SCUM! I'm better than ANY OF YOU!

Have you seen what being vegan has done to your teeth?

Does having bad teeth through veganism (something I neither knew about nor considered) come about because of a lack of calcium? Can you not get calcium supplements or are there o other (non-dairy) calcium-rich foods.

Vegetarians I lived with at uni seemed to pump a lot. And they were very whiffy pumps

Because there is no such link, it was a joke based around the appearance of the dimlie


Plenty of calcium in green leafy stuff.

I was making a joke about the gap-toothed smiley.

Although not eating cheese or milk would I imagine make a dent in your calcium intake.

Haha, the Dimlie LIES, my teeth are pretty good actually (albeit a bit wonky).

Re: Calcium,

Et Wa-lah = http://www.diseaseproof.com/archives/osteoporosis-choose-vegetable-calcium-over-animal-calcium.html

Not a problem at all. In fact, better off than non-veggie/vegans.

I can't deny my farts don't stink though

Yeah, but White Russians.

Yeah, but I don't drink alcohol either.

I am SO getting banned at this rate, aren't I?

Both through choice? (Vogonism* and teetotalism)






*This many pages in and no-one's done that yet? For shame.

Can you make those with soya milk?
edit: apparently yes-


How many oz in a cup though?

Would you like to hear some of my poetry?

I love vegetables. I'm a huge fan of pulses and beans of all kinds. I can accept that 'meat substitutes' have a place in the world.

Soya milk is a hate-filled abomination, and to even suggest that it might be appropriate to use the devils curdled seed in a White Russian is entirely offensive to everything I hold dear.

Yup.

Apparently Soya Milk makes shit tea though as it can easily go all gloopy, but I don't drink tea either, so I wouldn't know *runs like fuck*


.... I drink mint tea though, yum.

Would you like to hear some of my poetry?

Give me something I can work with, for goodness sake.

errrrr........ Irn-Bru?

RUN FASTER.

I don't know if its entirely hateful. When I go to my vegan friend's I have soya milk in my tea, and it tastes more or less the same to me. This MAY be because I only have the tiniest splashes of any sort of milk in my tea, literally a thimble full, due to a childhood suffering over-milky and over-sugared weak cups of tea from my grandma. Henceforth all my tea is strong and unsweetened. Like my men. etc.

Soya milk, to me, tastes sweet. I think it is wrong to call it milk of any kind because (apart from clearly not being milk) it doesn't actually replicate milk very well at all - other than it is white and liquid, but so is some paint.

Also: best food substitution name ever?

'Not Bacon' (can you still buy that?)

Some soya milk is sweetened, and yes, that's not very nice.
However, if you use the normal stuff in your tea for a couple of weeks, and then go back to bovine milk, it is foul.

Otherwise, it replicates milk very well, in that you can use it in place of milk in pretty much all situations, and it is better in most of them (soya custard is excellent, for example).

So what should we call Coconut Milk then, eh? eh?

Sweetened Soya Milk is the ming, raw unsweetened is much better.

During my vegan veggie crossover period, I quit Cows Milk for Soya Milk for a month, then had Cows Milk on serial while staying at a friends house. I was nearly ! After a month off, my body couldn't stand the stuff. gacky gacky I figure my body knows best.

EDIT: ooops.

No, no and thrice no. Soya milk is an utter abomination before God. This is a non-negotiable fact. One of The Internet's famous "trufax", if you will.

My father in law is lactose intolerant and so they have soya milk in the house. I once accidentally drank his cup of tea, and spent some considerable time gargling coffee to get rid of the taste. See also soya-based spread for similar horridness.

Sweet, sweet, full fat cow-juice is on a whole other plane of existence to that hateful mouth-raping liquid. I genuinely hope that they lose that case about not being able to call it "milk".

*Puts head in hands*

There's clearly something wrong with me.

I've never tasted real milk, so soya alternative to milk does for me.

My g/f is lactose intolerant (horrible stomach cramps if she has milk, soft cheese or indeed, anything creamy ) and used to drink soya milk; after trying a few different ones she settled on Sainsburys' own-brand unsweetened as the best of a mediocre bunch.

HOWEVER!

She tried that Lactofree stuff last year and didn't have a reaction to it at all so started drinking that -- it's a little pricey but it's great; semi-skimmed milk with 99% of the lactose taken out.

BUT THE BEST IS YET TO COME!

She seems to have built up a tolerance to dairy now as she's had all sorts of puddings with cream in and has been absolutely fine afterwards. We're not sure if the Lactofree has built up her tolerance, or whether she can only handle dairy if she's regularly drinking it, but either way it's pretty cool.

Anyone with lactose intolerance who'd rather be drinking nice semi-skimmed than horrible beany muck is well advised to give the stuff a whirl.