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 Post subject: Re: Xcom UFO Defence
PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 12:58 
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Your soldiers can't die in this new one apparently.

So that ain't XCOM.

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 Post subject: Re: Xcom UFO Defence
PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 9:36 
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GazChap wrote:
Your soldiers can't die in this new one apparently.

So that ain't XCOM.


That sounds all shades of wrong.

But those shades of wrongness can be had for £8 if pre-ordered from GMG


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 Post subject: Re: Xcom UFO Defence
PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 14:26 
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It's the same price on Steam.

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 Post subject: Re: Xcom UFO Defence
PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 14:46 
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Really? That was a load of hot air from GMG then.


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 Post subject: Re: Xcom UFO Defence
PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2020 13:31 
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GazChap wrote:
Your soldiers can't die in this new one apparently.

So that ain't XCOM.


It does sound good though.


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 Post subject: Re: Xcom UFO Defence
PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2020 13:34 
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It is good.

GazChap wrote:
Your soldiers can't die in this new one apparently.

So that ain't XCOM.

Piffle. The beating heart of XCOM, in both strategy and tactical layers, is having to make tough choices about how to use limited resources. This game has that.


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 Post subject: Re: Xcom UFO Defence
PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2020 14:19 
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 Post subject: Re: Xcom UFO Defence
PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2020 15:52 
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Piffle. The beating heart of XCOM, in both strategy and tactical layers, is having to make tough choices about how to use limited resources. This game has that.

Yeah, I wasn't being entirely serious ;)

Haven't had a chance to play it yet, but will do soon hopefully.

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 Post subject: Re: Xcom UFO Defence
PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2020 16:01 
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Grim... wrote:
*cough*reload save*cough*

I will entertain your notion that Commander/Ironman is The One True Approach To Xcom when you beat Commander/Ironman.


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 Post subject: Re: Xcom UFO Defence
PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2020 16:08 
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Ironman is absolutely the One True Approach To Xcom, but not in a world where glitches exist that you can only realistically avoid by reloading a save ;)

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 Post subject: Re: Xcom UFO Defence
PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2020 16:11 
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GazChap wrote:
Ironman is absolutely the One True Approach To Xcom, but not in a world where glitches exist that you can only realistically avoid by reloading a save ;)

Yeah, "bronzeman"/"honestman" is a better approach IMO. If only to guard against misclick moves, which I did to myself quite regularly.

Chimera Squad has Ironman, BTW. As usual, you only get one save slot, so you can never change a decision. If you fail a mission, you can re-try it. However it also has a separate Hardcore toggle; if you fail a mission in Hardcore, you fail the entire game. You can combine these.


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 Post subject: Re: Xcom UFO Defence
PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2020 16:12 
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
Grim... wrote:
*cough*reload save*cough*

I will entertain your notion that Commander/Ironman is The One True Approach To Xcom when you beat Commander/Ironman.

But I don't like the end of the game!

/throws toys out of pram

Actually, maybe I do like it, I don't know. But I don't really like the middle - becoming a rampaging six-man/lady/person who knows better/alien/etc army gets a bit dull.

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 Post subject: Re: Xcom UFO Defence
PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2020 16:35 
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Also, it seems to happen really suddenly. Like, the start of XCOM is brutal, and then suddenly your squad never misses and rarely dies and the biggest issue you have to deal with is "what do I build next". The WotC expansion had promise, but even the Big Bads weren't that big or bad.

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 Post subject: Re: Xcom UFO Defence
PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2020 20:21 
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Grim... wrote:
Also, it seems to happen really suddenly. Like, the start of XCOM is brutal, and then suddenly your squad never misses and rarely dies and the biggest issue you have to deal with is "what do I build next". The WotC expansion had promise, but even the Big Bads weren't that big or bad.


Were you playing it on the hardest difficulty setting?

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 Post subject: Re: Xcom UFO Defence
PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2020 21:09 
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Grim... wrote:
Also, it seems to happen really suddenly. Like, the start of XCOM is brutal, and then suddenly your squad never misses and rarely dies and the biggest issue you have to deal with is "what do I build next". The WotC expansion had promise, but even the Big Bads weren't that big or bad.


Were you playing it on the hardest difficulty setting?

No, I find the start is impossible on the hardest one.

I suspect there's a very specific pattern you need to use to get through the first few missions.

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 Post subject: Re: Xcom UFO Defence
PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2020 21:17 
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Grim... wrote:
I suspect there's a very specific pattern you need to use to get through the first few missions.
Based on what I've read on r/xcom, yes. There's talk of people doing 40+ restarts to get a "good" one before they go past the second mission. For example a key factor is if you get a power vent in the centre-column-third-row slot on the Avenger, as if you don't, you're really going to struggle in the strategy layer. It doesn't sound very fun.


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 Post subject: Re: Xcom UFO Defence
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
Grim... wrote:
I suspect there's a very specific pattern you need to use to get through the first few missions.
For example a key factor is if you get a power vent in the centre-column-third-row slot on the Avenger, as if you don't, you're really going to struggle in the strategy layer.


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 Post subject: Re: Xcom UFO Defence
PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 8:33 
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Given that I have no X-Com, which of these is best value?

[edit] I know that technically 77% off is. But I mean bang for your buck.


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 Post subject: Re: Xcom UFO Defence
PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 8:33 
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That bottom one looks a good bundle.. I am tempted

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 Post subject: Re: Xcom UFO Defence
PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 8:44 
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Others may disagree, but I'm not sure how much of the bottom bundle one really needs.

XCOM2 War of the Chosen can be had for £11 on Steam and that gives you all the XCOM 2 you really need, in my opinion.


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 Post subject: Re: Xcom UFO Defence
PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 14:01 
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But you also need XCOM 2.

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 Post subject: Re: Xcom UFO Defence
PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 14:40 
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But you also need XCOM 2.

Yes, quite.

Everything in the bundle except the base game plus WOTC can be skipped, but the bundle is easily worth it for the base game plus WOTC.

The only meaningful question really is "should I just play the base game and not get WOTC" and the answer to that is "no, WOTC is cool."


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 Post subject: Re: Xcom UFO Defence
PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 14:43 
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Thank you for the advice. :)

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 Post subject: Re: Xcom UFO Defence
PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 15:17 
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Oh really? Sorry, I thought wotc came as a standalone, my bad.


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