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Author:  Dimrill [ Mon Aug 10, 2009 15:27 ]
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Anyone else getting this? An FPS RPG with its main inspiration being Diablo, apparently. There's an excellent preview feature in this months GamesTIM! if anyone's interested. Promises co-op too. Some gumph:



It looks delightful.
Author:  Cras [ Mon Aug 10, 2009 15:27 ]
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Want.
Author:  Zardoz [ Mon Aug 10, 2009 15:29 ]
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360?
Author:  Grim... [ Mon Aug 10, 2009 15:30 ]
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Bagsy the big motherfucker in coop!
Author:  Dimrill [ Mon Aug 10, 2009 15:30 ]
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Natch! I'll be getting it Fo Sho. 4 player co-op? Yes please!

The interesting article in GamesTIM! mentioned that the different combinations you can forge weapons into weighed in at the 500k mark 8)
Author:  Grim... [ Mon Aug 10, 2009 15:30 ]
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Zardoz wrote:
360?

8 milliseconds of research says yes.
Author:  Cras [ Mon Aug 10, 2009 15:32 ]
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Craster wrote:
Want.


A bit of research upgrades that to ExaWant.
Author:  Dimrill [ Mon Aug 10, 2009 15:34 ]
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I suggest you buy GamesTIM! to fully upgrade that wantage to "feverish". Or at least read it in WH Smiths.
Author:  MrChris [ Mon Aug 10, 2009 15:35 ]
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Ew. Horrible cartoon graphics. Done and failed in XVIII or whatever it was.

Other than the fact it's visually appalling, yeah, wantzors.
Author:  Dimrill [ Mon Aug 10, 2009 15:36 ]
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*loads gun* Don't ever play Crackdown then.
Author:  MrChris [ Mon Aug 10, 2009 15:37 ]
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It would be absolutely fine without the blacklining.
Author:  markg [ Mon Aug 10, 2009 15:37 ]
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I saw this the other week on Live, somewhere on there is a feature about it with an interview with one of the developers.
Author:  Dimrill [ Mon Aug 10, 2009 15:38 ]
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Mr Chris wrote:
It would be absolutely fine without the blacklining.


True. But add the blacklining and it looks OMFG awesome.
Author:  MrChris [ Mon Aug 10, 2009 15:40 ]
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Dimrill wrote:
Mr Chris wrote:
It would be absolutely fine without the blacklining.


True. But add the blacklining and it looks OMFG awesome.

It's just jarring. Maybe I need to see it running, but it looks horrid in stills.
Author:  Zardoz [ Mon Aug 10, 2009 15:41 ]
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Grim... wrote:
Zardoz wrote:
360?

8 milliseconds of research says yes.

You had sex to find out the answer for me :luv:

Also: FUCK YEAH THEN :metul:
Author:  Grim... [ Mon Aug 10, 2009 15:43 ]
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Zardoz wrote:
You had sex to find out the answer for me :luv:

Twice.
Thank your mother for me.
Author:  MrChris [ Mon Aug 10, 2009 15:44 ]
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Actually, on further persual, I quite like the look of this (Scanner Darkly RotoScope resemblance notwithstanding). The 500 billion weapons thingy helps, as I love things like that.
Author:  Dimrill [ Mon Aug 10, 2009 15:45 ]
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Bajillion. Actual stats put it in the 500k mark, as I said upthread.
Author:  Zardoz [ Mon Aug 10, 2009 15:45 ]
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Mr Chris wrote:
Dimrill wrote:
Mr Chris wrote:
It would be absolutely fine without the blacklining.


True. But add the blacklining and it looks OMFG awesome.

It's just jarring. Maybe I need to see it running, but it looks horrid in stills.

It worked really well for crackdown. Gives it definition when thing get 'jiggy jiggy'.

Hold on... you're the King of Wrong. No explanation required.
Author:  BikNorton [ Mon Aug 10, 2009 16:20 ]
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Mr Chris wrote:
Dimrill wrote:
Mr Chris wrote:
It would be absolutely fine without the blacklining.
True. But add the blacklining and it looks OMFG awesome.
It's just jarring. Maybe I need to see it running, but it looks horrid in stills.
YOU LOOK HORRID IN STILLS!
Author:  Zardoz [ Mon Aug 10, 2009 16:21 ]
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I think with the right dress he'd look ok in Stils
Author:  Runcle [ Mon Aug 10, 2009 17:13 ]
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I proper want this. Hopefully I'll have a fixed xbox and money by then.
Author:  Dimrill [ Mon Aug 10, 2009 17:15 ]
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It certainly does look good for that "never ends" gaming kick I've been lusting after since my Amiga days.
Author:  Bobbyaro [ Mon Aug 10, 2009 18:14 ]
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I really really really want that game! Is there a release date for UK?

Edit: FFS 23 Oct. That Tekken 6, CoD6, L4D2 and this all out in about a month of each other that I really want!
Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Mon Aug 10, 2009 18:35 ]
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That's the best game preview trailer I've ever seen.
Author:  Malabelm [ Mon Aug 10, 2009 18:51 ]
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Bobbyaro wrote:
Edit: FFS 23 Oct. That's Tekken 6, CoD6, L4D2 and this all out in about a month of each other that I really want!
Author:  Zardoz [ Mon Aug 10, 2009 18:58 ]
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Just seen the trailer now. That looks fanbloodytastic.
Author:  The Egg [ Mon Aug 10, 2009 20:00 ]
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Want.

All those guns. All that open space. Shooty as fuck.
Author:  Dimrill [ Mon Aug 10, 2009 20:27 ]
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I'd also like to emphasise the lack of a digit after the title.
Author:  metalangel [ Mon Aug 10, 2009 20:27 ]
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Been waiting for this for ages... they're stupidly releasing it to compete at Christmas (idiots) but the new look (Prince of Persia meets Crackdown) is much better than the 'serious' old one.

A bit of a shame there's not as much character customization (you just choose from the four, so far as I can tell) but should be an excellent 4 Bezzie romp to supplant Halo, possibly.

Here's hoping Gearbox get it very right for once (instead of middling to average)
Author:  Curiosity [ Mon Aug 10, 2009 21:48 ]
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Bobbyaro wrote:
I really really really want that game! Is there a release date for UK?

Edit: FFS 23 Oct. That Tekken 6, CoD6, L4D2 and this all out in about a month of each other that I really want!


It's a good job you're in a foreign country at the time then, eh?
Author:  Dimrill [ Mon Aug 10, 2009 22:27 ]
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The cheapest place I've found for pre-orders is The Hut at £35.74. Come on boffins, there's got to be better than that out there.
Author:  myp [ Tue Aug 11, 2009 8:37 ]
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Curiosity wrote:
It's a good job you're in a foreign country at the time then, eh?

Forza 3, CoddyModdy2, Brutal Legend, L4D2 and Borderlands are all released while I'm in America. At least I won't be short of something to play once I get back, though.
Author:  MrChris [ Tue Aug 11, 2009 8:42 ]
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Dimrill wrote:
The cheapest place I've found for pre-orders is The Hut at £35.74. Come on boffins, there's got to be better than that out there.

Can I suggest waiting until it's been released for 6 months and getting it for £25?
Author:  markg [ Tue Aug 11, 2009 8:46 ]
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Mr Chris wrote:
Dimrill wrote:
The cheapest place I've found for pre-orders is The Hut at £35.74. Come on boffins, there's got to be better than that out there.

Can I suggest waiting until it's been released for 6 months and getting it for £25?

I reckon it'll probably be available for cheap somewhere a couple of weeks after it comes out, unless it gets a lot of hype between now and then. Certainly by the time Modern Warfare 2 is out.
Author:  MrChris [ Tue Aug 11, 2009 8:48 ]
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Yeah, probably true.

Hang on - I've just seen some older screenshots that don't have the rotoscoping effect, and it looks lovely (i.e. normal - like Fallout 3 but better). I wonder if it's switch on- and off- able.
Author:  metalangel [ Tue Aug 11, 2009 8:51 ]
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Mr Chris wrote:
Yeah, probably true.

Hang on - I've just seen some older screenshots that don't have the rotoscoping effect, and it looks lovely (i.e. normal - like Fallout 3 but better). I wonder if it's switch on- and off- able.


If the old trailer is still on Xbox Live you can see it in motion (a deformed woman with an Hollywood British accent tells you the planet is very dangerous) and while it does look nice, it also looks incredibly generic.
Author:  Dimrill [ Tue Aug 11, 2009 9:28 ]
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Mr Chris wrote:
Yeah, probably true.

Hang on - I've just seen some older screenshots that don't have the rotoscoping effect, and it looks lovely (i.e. normal - like Fallout 3 but better). I wonder if it's switch on- and off- able.


No. It looked brown. Another boring brown game.
Author:  MrChris [ Tue Aug 11, 2009 10:16 ]
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So's your face.

I thought it looked quite good. Still, the blacklining cartoony effect does add something a little different, but I don't think it needed it.
Author:  myp [ Tue Aug 11, 2009 10:19 ]
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Mr Chris wrote:
the blacklining cartoony effect

It's called 'cel-shading', you gomp.
Author:  Runcle [ Tue Aug 11, 2009 10:46 ]
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Its not, they've swore its not cel-shading although it very much looks like it. apparently its like bringing concept art to life, thats very much like cel-shading.
Author:  myp [ Tue Aug 11, 2009 10:55 ]
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Would cel-shading by any other name look as sweet?
Author:  markg [ Tue Aug 11, 2009 11:13 ]
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Wiki isn't sure:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cel-shaded_animation
Quote:
The use of cel-shading in video games has somewhat slowed since its inception, even though the technique has been used in recent acclaimed titles. Examples include Dragon Quest VIII, Rogue Galaxy, Killer 7, No More Heroes, Afro Samurai, Metal Gear Acid 2, Ōkami, Street Fighter IV, "Zack and Wiki", and Prince of Persia (2008); although, should be noticed, that some of these titles only use the outline effect and do not apply the shading technique that creates the flat look, which some people consider to not be cel-shading.
Author:  Dimrill [ Tue Aug 11, 2009 14:21 ]
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They claim it's cel-shading in conjunction with ANOTHER technique. Cor, ANOTHER.
Author:  Cras [ Tue Aug 11, 2009 14:22 ]
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So for £35 you get two techniques? That's only £17.50 per technique! Pre-ordered.
Author:  Curiosity [ Tue Aug 11, 2009 15:02 ]
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I'm not watching two techniques.
Author:  Dimrill [ Tue Aug 11, 2009 15:10 ]
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Curiosity wrote:
I'm not watching two techniques.


Not here, no. You either get the tongue going up and down, or round in a circle, NEVER both at the same time.
Author:  Cras [ Tue Aug 11, 2009 16:08 ]
Post subject:  Re: Borderlands
Dimrill wrote:
The cheapest place I've found for pre-orders is The Hut at £35.74. Come on boffins, there's got to be better than that out there.


http://shop.gameplay.co.uk/webstore/pro ... orderlands

£32.99
Author:  Dr Lave [ Wed Aug 12, 2009 22:36 ]
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Waiting on reviews for this because it might end up like Hellgate London.

Very, very hopeful though!
Author:  metalangel [ Wed Aug 12, 2009 23:53 ]
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Dr Lave wrote:
Waiting on reviews for this because it might end up like Hellgate London.


Darn, I'd never thought of that. I'm not exactly a Gearbox fan (hated Opposing Force, hated Brothers in Arms) but I really like the ideas behind this.
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