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Android users smell of poo

I can't help but think they're a solution to a problem that doesn't really exist, but then I thought the same thing about Face ID and now I wouldn't go back to Touch ID if you paid me.

How come? I find Touch ID more reliable than Face ID. The only time Touch ID fails on me is when I’m just out of the bath. Apple’s Face ID misses me about 30% of the time.

Face ID picks me up wearing sunglasses. I always thought it was some of witchcraft.

Satsuma wrote:

Face ID picks me up wearing sunglasses. I always thought it was some of witchcraft.

Depends on the glasses. They have to let through a specific wavelength of IR light that the sensor uses. Some do, some don't.

The HUAWEI P20 PRO has an always-on screen, just like my S7 does.

What it DOESN'T do, is display notifications on the always-on screen, so whereas the S7 puts a little icon on the always-on screen when I have a Facebook message, or a WhatsApp message, or whatever - the £700 P20 Pro doesn't have this functionality at all.

Amazing scenes.

I wonder if the people who designed this thing have ever had a mobile phone before.

[Are you enjoying your P20 any more having been the proud owner for several months now?

Findus Fop wrote:

[Are you enjoying your P20 any more having been the proud owner for several months now?

It has turned out to be splendid.

The lack of wireless charging is a non-issue as this is a phone that you can't kill in a day, even if it's running as a wireless hotspot for 7-8 hours during the day. It'll be on its last legs by bedtime, but it'll make it.

The deficiencies of the always on screen have been mitigated by me getting a smartwatch, and a smartwatch has turned out to be one of my favourite gizmos of the last few years.

The stupid USB-C headphones are stupid because I lost them and haven't bothered to replace them.

Beyond that it's basically just a very nice smartphone, with an exceptional camera that delivers spookily good results in low light.

Oh yes it's shiny and slippery as fuck so when it slid off the kitchen table onto the floor on my first day of ownership, I decided to start using the supplied gel case.

It's behaved itself impeccably with the various Bluetooth pairings it has, always connecting to the car and my smartwatch properly, and I used it to unlock my Chromebook via Bluetooth when I still had a Chromebook. (That was cool functionality that I miss now I've got a Windows 10 laptop.)

Obviously being by HUAWEI I get Chinese Hackers taking money out of my bank account all the time and stealing my data, but that's a small price to pay for such fine phone.

Overall, great phone, would recommend.

The P20 Pro is the one I have, isn't that what we're talking about?

Wait, Bixby lets you unlock a phone by just asking it to? What am I missing here that means that's not a security nightmare?

Hearthly wrote:

The P20 Pro is the one I have, isn't that what we're talking about?

Yes it is! I just thought you had t'other, which I knew was historically astronomically expensive so thought I'd got an excellent deal.

Nor does that mean I've found a bad deal for the P20 Pro and it's not worth considering.

I will report back in 6 months for my periodic mobile phone purchasing contemplations.

I tried my best, Mr Fop.

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Mine didn't come with a gel case.

It had a screen protector on, though.

Grim... wrote:

Mine didn't come with a gel case.

It had a screen protector on, though.

A screen protector or a bit of transport packaging you just left there?

Grim... wrote:

Mine didn't come with a gel case.

It had a screen protector on, though.

A screen protector or a bit of transport packaging you just left there?

You did, didn't you? Am I mad?

Author:	Doctor Glyndwr [ Mon Feb 25, 2019 21:31 ]
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Hands on with the Mate X from The Verge: https://www.theverge.com/2019/2/25/1823 ... n-mwc-2019

Author:	myp [ Mon Feb 25, 2019 21:50 ]
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I can't wait for Apple's £3k offering.

Author:	Grim... [ Mon Feb 25, 2019 23:36 ]
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Or 1Plus to bust one out for £400.

Author:	DBSnappa [ Tue Feb 26, 2019 12:01 ]
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Short of there being some new flexible screen being made out of some unheard of tough plastic I’m struggling to see how these won’t look like they’ve been attacked with a belt sander after a few months of normal usage.

Author:	GazChap [ Tue Feb 26, 2019 12:06 ]
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I can't help but think they're a solution to a problem that doesn't really exist, but then I thought the same thing about Face ID and now I wouldn't go back to Touch ID if you paid me.

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Author:	Zardoz [ Tue Feb 26, 2019 12:17 ]
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Let me know when they can fold like this:

Author:	Mimi [ Wed Feb 27, 2019 8:59 ]
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GazChap wrote: I can't help but think they're a solution to a problem that doesn't really exist, but then I thought the same thing about Face ID and now I wouldn't go back to Touch ID if you paid me. How come? I find Touch ID more reliable than Face ID. The only time Touch ID fails on me is when I’m just out of the bath. Apple’s Face ID misses me about 30% of the time.

Author:	GazChap [ Wed Feb 27, 2019 10:47 ]
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Mimi wrote: How come? I find Touch ID more reliable than Face ID. The only time Touch ID fails on me is when I’m just out of the bath. Apple’s Face ID misses me about 30% of the time. The only time I've ever had Face ID not work is when I'm wearing sunglasses, or when I'm lying in bed and my face is half smooshed into a pillow. Touch ID wasn't particularly unreliable either, to be fair though - it did "miss" on more occasions though, I think I've just got weirdly sweaty/oily fingers Face ID is noticeably much quicker than Touch ID ever was - that might be simply because I'm comparing a more powerful XR to my old 8 though.

Author:	Satsuma [ Wed Feb 27, 2019 11:19 ]
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Face ID picks me up wearing sunglasses. I always thought it was some of witchcraft.

Author:	Doctor Glyndwr [ Wed Feb 27, 2019 11:39 ]
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Satsuma wrote: Face ID picks me up wearing sunglasses. I always thought it was some of witchcraft. Depends on the glasses. They have to let through a specific wavelength of IR light that the sensor uses. Some do, some don't.

Author:	Grim... [ Wed Feb 27, 2019 11:45 ]
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Is it not polarised / non-polarised?

Author:	Cras [ Wed Feb 27, 2019 11:59 ]
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote: Satsuma wrote: Face ID picks me up wearing sunglasses. I always thought it was some of witchcraft. Depends on the glasses. They have to let through a specific wavelength of IR light that the sensor uses. Some do, some don't. Pro tip - take off your glasses at automated passport scanners for this very reason.

Author:	Findus Fop [ Tue Mar 05, 2019 12:43 ]
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Hearthly wrote: The HUAWEI P20 PRO has an always-on screen, just like my S7 does. What it DOESN'T do, is display notifications on the always-on screen, so whereas the S7 puts a little icon on the always-on screen when I have a Facebook message, or a WhatsApp message, or whatever - the £700 P20 Pro doesn't have this functionality at all. Amazing scenes. I wonder if the people who designed this thing have ever had a mobile phone before. Are you enjoying your P20 any more having been the proud owner for several months now?

Author:	DavPaz [ Tue Mar 05, 2019 12:59 ]
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The Huawei Mate sounds like a Geordie asking about your health

Author:	krazywookie [ Thu Mar 07, 2019 15:35 ]
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Seconded, factory gel case very good. Pair with gorilla glass for maxxxx protection.

Author:	Findus Fop [ Thu Mar 07, 2019 16:00 ]
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Oh noes! I bought the Spigen equivalent I have for my s7. Didn't realise it came.with its own gel case. Will compare and contrast. Yeah I'll be keen to remove as much unnecessary howai guff from the interface as possible.

Author:	Hearthly [ Thu Mar 07, 2019 16:26 ]
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Well clearly the ACTUAL WORDS aren't enough for Mr Fop to comprehend them, so I have decided to add visual aids.

Author:	Cras [ Tue Mar 05, 2019 12:59 ]
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Perfect.

Author:	Hearthly [ Tue Mar 05, 2019 13:05 ]
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Findus Fop wrote: [Are you enjoying your P20 any more having been the proud owner for several months now? It has turned out to be splendid. The lack of wireless charging is a non-issue as this is a phone that you can't kill in a day, even if it's running as a wireless hotspot for 7-8 hours during the day. It'll be on its last legs by bedtime, but it'll make it. The deficiencies of the always on screen have been mitigated by me getting a smartwatch, and a smartwatch has turned out to be one of my favourite gizmos of the last few years. The stupid USB-C headphones are stupid because I lost them and haven't bothered to replace them. Beyond that it's basically just a very nice smartphone, with an exceptional camera that delivers spookily good results in low light. Oh yes it's shiny and slippery as fuck so when it slid off the kitchen table onto the floor on my first day of ownership, I decided to start using the supplied gel case. It's behaved itself impeccably with the various Bluetooth pairings it has, always connecting to the car and my smartwatch properly, and I used it to unlock my Chromebook via Bluetooth when I still had a Chromebook. (That was cool functionality that I miss now I've got a Windows 10 laptop.) Obviously being by HUAWEI I get Chinese Hackers taking money out of my bank account all the time and stealing my data, but that's a small price to pay for such fine phone. Overall, great phone, would recommend.

Author:	Findus Fop [ Tue Mar 05, 2019 14:19 ]
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Hearthly wrote: Findus Fop wrote: [Are you enjoying your P20 any more having been the proud owner for several months now? It has turned out to be splendid. The lack of wireless charging is a non-issue as this is a phone that you can't kill in a day, even if it's running as a wireless hotspot for 7-8 hours during the day. It'll be on its last legs by bedtime, but it'll make it. The deficiencies of the always on screen have been mitigated by me getting a smartwatch, and a smartwatch has turned out to be one of my favourite gizmos of the last few years. The stupid USB-C headphones are stupid because I lost them and haven't bothered to replace them. Beyond that it's basically just a very nice smartphone, with an exceptional camera that delivers spookily good results in low light. Oh yes it's shiny and slippery as fuck so when it slid off the kitchen table onto the floor on my first day of ownership, I decided to start using the supplied gel case. It's behaved itself impeccably with the various Bluetooth pairings it has, always connecting to the car and my smartwatch properly, and I used it to unlock my Chromebook via Bluetooth when I still had a Chromebook. (That was cool functionality that I miss now I've got a Windows 10 laptop.) Obviously being by HUAWEI I get Chinese Hackers taking money out of my bank account all the time and stealing my data, but that's a small price to pay for such fine phone. Overall, great phone, would recommend. Cheers! Though I've now just realised I was looking at an offer for what I thought was a Mate Pro 20 but is actually a P20 Pro, so not as excellent an offer as I'd thought. Bloody confusing, these phones.

Author:	Hearthly [ Tue Mar 05, 2019 14:43 ]
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The P20 Pro is the one I have, isn't that what we're talking about?

Author:	Findus Fop [ Tue Mar 05, 2019 14:52 ]
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Hearthly wrote: The P20 Pro is the one I have, isn't that what we're talking about? Yes it is! I just thought you had t'other, which I knew was historically astronomically expensive so thought I'd got an excellent deal. Nor does that mean I've found a bad deal for the P20 Pro and it's not worth considering. I will report back in 6 months for my periodic mobile phone purchasing contemplations.

Author:	Sir Taxalot [ Tue Mar 05, 2019 22:54 ]
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I've been playing with using the voice assistants on my S9 and 'Hey Google' works pretty well, except it can't unlock the phone. So now I use 'Hi Bixby' to unlock the phone, then wait til that goes away before saying 'hey google' it's both impressive tech and jarringly clunky at the same time. Bixby can control some of the phone systems (eg change brightness, power/battery saving mode, lock the phone, toggle wifi/bluetooth) that the Google Assistant can't - is that a Samsung thing? Is Google Assistant more capable on a Pixels?

Author:	Bamba [ Tue Mar 05, 2019 23:51 ]
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Wait, Bixby lets you unlock a phone by just asking it to? What am I missing here that means that's not a security nightmare?

Author:	Sir Taxalot [ Wed Mar 06, 2019 1:49 ]
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Bamba wrote: Wait, Bixby lets you unlock a phone by just asking it to? What am I missing here that means that's not a security nightmare? Yes, fully unlocked and open. I don't think this is enabled by default, and seem to recall the phone did show a little warning when setting this up, saying that it's the very lowest security (along with I guess the 'smart lock' that can keep the phone unlocked in certain areas or when certain devices are nearby). I genuinely don't know how good voice recognition is at distinguishing between people, and I'd imagine a recording would fool it easily into unlocking - but if someone was going to go to that effort they'd probably find a way to unlock my phone by a number of other methods anyway - my son for example knows that he can hold the phone up to my face to unlock it through face recognition. I guess there's quite a range of where we'd all draw the line when it comes to the trade off between security and convenience, and at the moment I'm quite keen to yell at my phone to start timers/navigate to somewhere/play music. I do see what you mean though, it's potentially really easy to unlock a device that has a lot of naked pictures personal info on.

Author:	Findus Fop [ Wed Mar 06, 2019 16:07 ]
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Findus Fop wrote: Hearthly wrote: The P20 Pro is the one I have, isn't that what we're talking about? Yes it is! I just thought you had t'other, which I knew was historically astronomically expensive so thought I'd got an excellent deal. Nor does that mean I've found a bad deal for the P20 Pro and it's not worth considering. I will report back in 6 months for my periodic mobile phone purchasing contemplations. Fans of tediousness will be pleased to hear I've finally plumped for a new phone. Mate 20 on EE, at a not too shabby £31 per month. Found a great deal on the P20 (£22, deal fans) but the data was a mite low. Will let you know what my life looks like once the Chinese hackers have taken it over.

Author:	Findus Fop [ Wed Mar 06, 2019 16:40 ]
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Scratch that, I've gone with a P20 Pro. God I'm useless at buying phones. Luckily I only do it once every 3 years.

Author:	Hearthly [ Wed Mar 06, 2019 17:04 ]
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This is a tremendous roller coaster of emotions.

Author:	Findus Fop [ Wed Mar 06, 2019 17:49 ]
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It certainly is. Will start on phone cases shortly.

Author:	Hearthly [ Thu Mar 07, 2019 15:24 ]
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I've found the gel case that came with it in the box is fine. Mine hasn't fallen several feet onto a hard kitchen floor a single time since I put it on! Out of the box I found a few things annoying about the phone, if you Google shit like '10 things to do with your new P20 Pro' you might find a couple of useful titbits. Turning on 'dark mode' was a nice one, as I recall.

Author:	Hearthly [ Thu Mar 07, 2019 16:01 ]
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I tried my best, Mr Fop. Attachment: fopperstoppers.JPG

Author:	Findus Fop [ Thu Mar 07, 2019 16:05 ]
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Hearthly wrote: I tried my best, Mr Fop. Attachment: fopperstoppers.JPG truly, your part in my smartphone odyssey can't be faulted. The blame lies squarely at my door.

Author:	DavPaz [ Thu Mar 07, 2019 16:23 ]
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Which bit are we supposed to read, Mr Turnip? I can't tell.

Author:	Grim... [ Thu Mar 07, 2019 16:53 ]
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Mine didn't come with a gel case. It had a screen protector on, though.

Author:	Hearthly [ Thu Mar 07, 2019 16:56 ]
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Maybe you didn't look in the box properly. Mine had a screen protector on it too, which I took off because I don't like them.

Author:	Cras [ Thu Mar 07, 2019 17:00 ]
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Grim... wrote: Mine didn't come with a gel case. It had a screen protector on, though. A screen protector or a bit of transport packaging you just left there?

Author:	myp [ Thu Mar 07, 2019 17:02 ]
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Cras wrote: Grim... wrote: Mine didn't come with a gel case. It had a screen protector on, though. A screen protector or a bit of transport packaging you just left there? He didn’t leave it, he took it off. Learn to read.