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It's not automatic to delete the updates when you disable an app is it? I assumed it was something Kris had manually chosen to do. If it's automatic and it then still tries to update them later, that's bonkers.

Yay! Windows phone. I knew I was ahead of the curve.

Yes, it's automatic to delete updates, and it shouldn't install them later.

There's something non-obvious at work here. Storage under Android is partitioned into system (which is read-only during normal use) and data. Pre-installed apps are usually in the system partition. Updates are always put in data. So any pre-installed app is immediately stored twice over once it has an update. Obviously, this is wasteful.

In that case no need for a specific beex version, just fix the broken one, thx

What's broken? Other than maybe something weird that Honor have done to Kris's phone.

Nothing, it just amuses me to make everything Google's fault, and by association yours.

The Honor is Huawei.

No, the Honor is mine.

I've gone for a OnePlus 6 in the end. £469 and seems to do everything I need, hopefully this will last me another 4 years... The Note 3 was great, but it's getting long in the tooth now, and no android OS updates is annoying.

OnePlus have a notoriously bad reputation for doing Android updates.

Good phones, though.

Actually they've been pretty on the ball recently

My note 3 won't update past 5.0, so it has to be more recent than that at least

I've been pleased with my Moto G6 Plus so far. Only negative so far has been the glass back to the phone, which makes the phone look and feel a bit nicer than the cheaper model but does mean that if it's placed on any kind of slight slope, it'll be on the floor in no time.

My Moto G5 is a twat for many, many reasons and I won't be buying a Motorola/Lenovo again.

That Android Auto won't start is the least frustrating of them.

We truly are at PEAK PHONE in our house now. When my contract came up earlier in the year I decided to stay with my S7, which is still 100% adequate for my requirements despite being nearly 2 1/2 years old. I used my handset renewal to get a phone for Jnr.

Now Mrs Hearthly's is up for renewal (so the phone is 2 years old) and she's like, 'I don't want a new phone, I'm completely happy with the one I've got'. (She's got an Xperia Z5 Compact.) Obviously we don't need a phone for Jnr now, and I'm still entirely satisfied with my S7.

PAYG beckons, we'll save £15 per month on the cost of the 'with handset' contract.

I've also noticed that no one really gives a fuck about phones these days either, I remember in the early days of smartphones everyone was excited to see the new tech and we we all showed our new phones off to each other and so on - now no one cares and the prevailing attitude is pretty much, 'They're all the same really, aren't they.'

I'm amazed manufacturers are still managing to sell so many of the fucking things TBH.

I suspect most people will just be taking the upgrade every time their contract runs out. Which, given the state most phone batteries end up in after two years, makes some amount of sense. Also, manufacturers (probably rightly) trumpet camera upgrades all the time and that's an aspect that pretty much everyone uses all the time so it'll seem attractive. I mean your standard person-in-the-street doesn't necessarily need the latest Snapdragon processor or another 2GB of RAM, but a better camera is one of the few features I think most people would appreciate.

The battery in my S7 is still in fairly good shape, it's definitely not lasting as long as it was when the phone was new, but it's not causing me any issues either. (It loses about 15% overnight with the always-on screen doing it thing, for example.)

I get you on the better camera aspect to an extent, but how good do most people need the snapper on a phone to be? I'm no Ansel Adams, however, the output from me and Mrs Hearthly's phones is entirely acceptable, and certainly good enough for family pics and videos, it's not like the early days of smartphones where the quality was noticeably poorer than you'd get from a dedicated camera or camcorder.

I reckon if batteries were still user-replaceable, a lot of people would keep their phones for considerably longer than two years. (And there's also a certain degree of inertia when it comes to contract renewals, a bit like car or house insurance.)

After the sad demise of my S7 Edge, and the issues I am having with the battery on my old S5 (I replaced the battery about 9 months back), I just bought an Honor 9 Light (in blue, as you asked). I think i'll just giffgaff it from now on.

It is pretty nice. Good for 150 notes.

How's the camera compare with the S7?

My phone was delivered today!
I wasn't in
It was taken to a local ups pickup place for me to collect, the nearest one is 300yards away and is open till 10
The driver took it to one 2 miles away that closes at 6...

I'm going back to iPhone once I can afford it.

£3.8bn fine for Google, breaching EU antitrust rules.

Guess that means Pixels won't be getting any cheaper.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/li ... iness-live

'Too little, too late' - https://www.theguardian.com/technology/ ... -consumers

This OnePlus 6 is pretty nice, I hate setting up a new phone though...

I got a Xiaomi note 5 on Saturday. It is very good, great battery. Set up was so easy, I just held it next to my old phone and it cloned it!

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I found that modern Android makes that a case of pressing "restore" and waiting.

I took the opportunity to not put all the same crap on this phone, but it's more moving shit around, changing settings the way I like it, setting up the android wear watch again etc...

It's definitely better than it used to be as every app seemed to know me already, but you still have to open every app to give it permissions and the like.

Is there a way I can change the default volume controller? The one on the phone doesn't have separate media and ringtone(!) and the do not disturb doesn't work properly.

When you press the volume buttons, is there a drop down arrow? That should give you access to all volumes.

Yes - and I knew that, I am not sure what I was talking about. paz:

the DND still doesn't work, though!

Roll a d20 for initiative

Don't forget you have "volume control" now for +4 stealth

The oneplus 6 is lovely, having had it for a day now. I do have one issue though...

... how am I supposed to keep hold of it? It's remarkably slippy. I've had to order a screen protector for the back glass, to see if that gives me a bit more purchase.

You stick it in a case.

Cases are for nerds.

You stick it in a case.

"I don't understand why people use cases"

Past performance is no indication of future performance.

I recently got a Koolnee K1. What a phone !. There are a few small issues with Android, but for the cash it was awesome.

Oh and I use a case, given the whole phone is glass. It's also rather large, so needs protection if you lob it in a rucksack for example.

The vinyl wrap/screen protector for the back of the phone was absolute shite. Might have been ok if phones were still flat surfaces, but all the curved edges and shit these days makes it feel shite in the hand when you hold it, as the vinyl doesn't sit very well on the corners and edges.

I've resorted to using the free clear plastic case that came with the phone, like some kind of gumbi-handed peasant. What's wrong with a textured back on a phone? Surely being able to hold onto a phone is a key design criteria?

In other news, the facial recognition unlock is voodoo. I turned it off on the Note 3, as it took bloody ages to respond. On this thing I spent a few minutes trying to work out why my phone didn't lock and what was broken, but realised the face unlock was working so fast, that it just seemed like the phone wasn't locked when I picked it up. I was impressed.

I'm off to go find a nice case to use, spend a load of money on it, then realise after I get it that the free case is the best after all, and switch back to that.

Title.

Worth two in the bush.

:Chortling dimlie:

I have Pie. Mmmmmm delicious Pie...

So far, I am whelmed

The countdown to Hearthly buying a Pixel phone starts now:

https://www.engadget.com/2018/08/22/goo ... -charging/

All-glass back though? Do they *want* people to shatter their phones?

With the countdown to Hearthly complaining about the crappy handling of the IOM for google and that they are a 3rd world country - set to the timer above +10 minutes.

Many phones have this. My P20 Pro does.

And it's really fucking annoying, slippy little bastards.

Is it a bit too tinfoily to suggest that manufacturers actually have an interest in making phones a bit fragile and accident prone as well as pretty?