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PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 9:59 
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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
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I'll get an iPhone, if they ever stop being a fucking rip off.


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I'll get an iPhone, if they ever stop being a fucking rip off.

If I bought a separate phone, portable games machine, MP3 player, eBook reader and netbook it'd come to a lot more than the price of an iPhone.

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I don't care it's still a rip off:

iPod Touch 32GB: £200

iPhone 32GB: £540

Rip off, see.


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I don't really see the point of having a web browser etc that can't connect to a mobile data connection - it's the time I use it most. I'd go as far to say that the iPod Touch is a bit pointless. It wouldn't suit my needs at all.

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I'll get an iPhone, if they ever stop being a fucking rip off.

If I bought a separate phone, portable games machine, MP3 player, eBook reader and netbook it'd come to a lot more than the price of an iPhone.


but most 'smartphones' offer all that you just stated..

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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 10:18 
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I don't really see the point of having a web browser etc that can't connect to a mobile data connection - it's the time I use it most. I'd go as far to say that the iPod Touch is a bit pointless. It wouldn't suit my needs at all.

That's not my point. My point is that the price difference in no way relates to the actual differences between the devices, it is purely a product of the current market conditions. I don't think iPhones are always going to be able to maintain these prices, hence I'll buy one when they stop being a fucking rip off.


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I know the iPhone users disagree, but when Vodaphone and Orange launch the iPhone the prices should come down..

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 10:23 
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I guess that depends entirely upon what % of the current price of an iPhone is O2's markup.


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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 10:29 
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but most 'smartphones' offer all that you just stated..

There's no point having all those features if they're annoying to use. The iPhone is the only phone I've ever enjoyed browsing the web from, all others have been more like a chore - what's the point?

I know we iPhone users sound evangelical, but it's because they're fucking brilliant at what they do. If I'd have bought a lemon I might not have admitted to it, but why would I be upgrading to the new one next month?

Anyway, this discussion is always tedious as people who have them love them and people who don't don't. I have nothing against people who use other phones, obv, and my 'get an iPhone' comment was a variation on the 'get a 360' jokes we've been doing lately.

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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
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I'm not buying 2 phones

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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
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I guess that depends entirely upon what % of the current price of an iPhone is O2's markup.
O2 don't make a huge amount of money from the iPhone; Apple take a substantial cut of the upfront and monthly fees.

But anyway, even I (raving iPhone fanboy that I am) think we shouldn't skank up the Android thread with more of the same old iPhone debate.


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But anyway, even I (raving iPhone fanboy that I am) think we shouldn't skank up the Android thread with more of the same old iPhone debate.

Agreed.

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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
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but most 'smartphones' offer all that you just stated..

There's no point having all those features if they're annoying to use. The iPhone is the only phone I've ever enjoyed browsing the web from, all others have been more like a chore - what's the point?


have you tried any other phon in the last two years, to comapre the iphone too?

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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
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Aye. G1, some Samsung thing, LG something or other. I like to play with other people's phones when they let me, just to reaffirm I've made the right choice. ;)

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Fair enough... The LG was bloody aweful I used to have one..

My Nokia is quite good..

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I don't think there's anything wrong with the browser on the G1 though, although it does have the annoying habit of occasionally forgetting what windows you had open.


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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
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I don't like the G1, entirely because I can't get my hands around it well enough to hold it comfortably and still use it effectively. The bottom section with the buttons gets in the way, and I find the recessed flip-out keyboard incredibly fiddly. It's a good phone, but not for me.


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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
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Getting impatient?

Copy this file to the root of your sdcard and rename it to update.zip
Power off your phone
Turn the phone back on while holding down the home button. This should put the phone into recovery mode (you'll see a triangle with an exclamation mark in it).
Press alt+L to see the options
Press alt+S to flash the update
When it's finished, press home + back to reboot the phone.

Try not to panic as your takes what seems like forever to reboot.

Now, what's new..?

Edit - I should probably point out that although this worked fine on my non-rooted G1,you could obviously kill your phone if this goes wrong, so please don't blame me if it does.


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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 9:44 
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Is this 1.6? Because that apparently fixes my "doesn't send the address book to the car" problem.

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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 9:45 
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Internet says 'yes'.
I'M GOING FOR IT!

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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 9:57 
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Christ, that does take ages to reboot. But it's worked!

The main changes are outlined in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBRFkLKRwFw

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I did warn you. :p
I had to stop myself from looking at it every 5 seconds (or tried to anyway, it didn't work).


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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
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Ooh, power control widget FTW!
Now you'll tell me that's been there since 1.5.

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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
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Ooh, power control widget FTW!
Now you'll tell me that's been there since 1.5.


I didn't even notice that this morning :p
Great, I've been dying for an easy way to turn GPS on/off without having to go through the menus.


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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 10:14 
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Still no "update all" button on the marketplace :'(
The marketplace is much zippier, though.

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Still no "update all" button on the marketplace :'(


Isn't GazChap doing it? :p


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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
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Good Lord, the camera is totally different!

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About time.
Looks like there's new stuff on google maps as well.


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Walking and public transport directions! About fucking time!

You're sorted for getting to my house now ;)

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Heh, as long as the battery lasts that long.


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Actually, it suggests you walk rather than get the bus. Er...

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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
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Goddamnit, when's the official HTC Hero version coming out, then?

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That's up to your contract provider. Who is it?

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Hero should have doughnut on it already..?

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No, the Hero is Cupcake (1.5). My network provider is Orange, who are usually shit at firmware updates, but they did get the first Hero firmware update turned round in about two weeks, so I hold out hope they'll be reasonably quick - but as the Hero has lots of custom gubbins on it, I expect HTC to have to muck about with 1.6 before it can go anywhere near the Hero.

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Still no "update all" button on the marketplace :'(


Isn't GazChap doing it? :p

Unh?


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Still no "update all" button on the marketplace :'(


Isn't GazChap doing it? :p

Unh?


It's a reply-to-all-button-on-the-pm joke.
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This isn't a 1.6 question because it used to happen on 1.5 as well.
Every so often I'll get a text message telling me I've had a missed call from someone, but there's nothing in my call log and I've been near my phone at the time of the call and my phone definitely hasn't rung. Anyone else had this problem?


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I get that on my £10 nokia

it just means your phone didn't have any signal when the call was made, you normally get the text message when you are back in range of a mast again.

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But it happens when I haven't been anywhere. ?:|


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Local atmospheric conditions temporarily blocked the signal?

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Perhaps, but I seem to be in the same place as these local atmospheric conditions an awful lot more than I was with any of my previous phones.


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I got Donut OTA from Vodafone last night on my Magic. Everything feels a bit snappier, the new market has a much better layout, camera is better (but I use Snap Photo Pro already, so still probs won't use it) and the power settings widget is really good, even better than the toggle settings app I used until now (which has now been uninstalled). A nice little upgrade all-round, but Eclair looks like it's gonna be something a LOT more special!

http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2009/10/1 ... tle-dated/

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new browser called Dolphin = awesome.

faster than the rubbish default one and has tabs and an easily found refresh option (as opposed to the default browser's 'click somewhere where there's not put an image' option).

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new browser called Dolphin = awesome.

faster than the rubbish default one and has tabs and an easily found refresh option (as opposed to the default browser's 'click somewhere where there's not put an image' option).

Or menu: reload.

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new browser called Dolphin = awesome.

faster than the rubbish default one and has tabs and an easily found refresh option (as opposed to the default browser's 'click somewhere where there's not put an image' option).

Or menu: reload.


not on my HTC Hero. Trust me, I've looked.

I get six options (back, forward, new bookmark, bookmarks, windows and more). The 'more' option takes me to

find on page
copy text
page info
share page
downloads
history
settings

now maybe in settings there's a setting to unfuck this situation but it's all ready far too many button presses away for me to bother with.


Dolphin has tabs and gestures tho and is much faster as well. Greatness!

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new browser called Dolphin = awesome.

faster than the rubbish default one and has tabs and an easily found refresh option (as opposed to the default browser's 'click somewhere where there's not put an image' option).

Or menu: reload.


not on my HTC Hero. Trust me, I've looked.

I get six options (back, forward, new bookmark, bookmarks, windows and more). The 'more' option takes me to

find on page
copy text
page info
share page
downloads
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Menu -> Right hand button on the URL entry bar = Reload.

I have a Hero too, it's most definitely there.

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arghhhhh!!!

well anyway, Dolphin is much much better.

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