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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
PostPosted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 17:01 
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Another for the “wireless charging is a pointless gimmick” gang here. It’s just so slow, and isn’t really any more convenient than plugging a cable in.

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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
PostPosted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 17:29 
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Lonewolves wrote:
Another for the “wireless charging is a pointless gimmick” gang here. It’s just so slow, and isn’t really any more convenient than plugging a cable in.

That's utter rubbish.

The emboldened part, anyway. Obviously it's slow as balls.

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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
PostPosted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 19:08 
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Obviously it's slow as balls.

A lot faster now. The new 15W pads will wirelessly charge a phone faster than we could charge with cables a few years back. (Still slower than a modern cabled fast charger putting out 20-30 W, admittedly.)


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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
PostPosted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 22:58 
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Grim... wrote:
Lonewolves wrote:
Another for the “wireless charging is a pointless gimmick” gang here. It’s just so slow, and isn’t really any more convenient than plugging a cable in.

That's utter rubbish.

The emboldened part, anyway. Obviously it's slow as balls.

I have a circular pad thing that you need to make sure the phone is placed correctly on. Doesn’t seem much more convenient than plugging a reversible cable into. If you could just place it down anywhere on your nightstand it’d be a different argument.

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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 6:33 
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Lonewolves wrote:
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Lonewolves wrote:
Another for the “wireless charging is a pointless gimmick” gang here. It’s just so slow, and isn’t really any more convenient than plugging a cable in.

That's utter rubbish.

The emboldened part, anyway. Obviously it's slow as balls.

I have a circular pad thing that you need to make sure the phone is placed correctly on. Doesn’t seem much more convenient than plugging a reversible cable into. If you could just place it down anywhere on your nightstand it’d be a different argument.


Or if you could wear 10 charging thimbles. Then you'd look fucking awesome AND charge your phone while you use it.


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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 7:54 
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Something like this is the way to go, all you have to do is get the phone sort of in the middle and it'll charge fine.

Plus if you've got an always-on screen it makes for a nifty clock and notification centre.

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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 8:41 
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Do you have to plug it in?


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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 8:46 
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DavPaz wrote:
Do you have to plug it in?


Of course not, it works on magic.

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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
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Hearthly wrote:
DavPaz wrote:
Do you have to plug it in?


Of course not, it works on magic.

Awesome. Tape it to the back of your phone and free power forever!


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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 9:45 
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I have two of the chargers in that screenshot a few posts back. They're very good.

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I have a circular pad thing that you need to make sure the phone is placed correctly on. Doesn’t seem much more convenient than plugging a reversible cable into. If you could just place it down anywhere on your nightstand it’d be a different argument.
Use cases:

1) on my nightstand, having a wireless charger means never having to fumble around in the dark looking for the cable then fumble around more plugging it in. Overnight, I don't care how long charging takes.
2) on my desk, having a wireless charger and Bluetooth headphones means I can put my phone down when I get to my desk and it'll pick up a charge, then scoop it back up when heading to meetings, lunch, coffee, etc. I might do that 15-20 times per day so not having to plug something in is meaningful.

It's not life changing but it is convenient.


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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 9:53 
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Of course in my day, my Nokia 3210 would last for 3 months in between charges... and it didn't matter which way the charger was plugged in as it was circular.


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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 10:06 
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Of course in my day, my Nokia 3210 would last for 3 months in between charges...
In other comparing-apples-with-oranges news, these had infinite battery life:

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and it didn't matter which way the charger was plugged in as it was circular.

I can't remember when I last used a phone with an asymmetric charging port. Early 2015 maybe?


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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 10:08 
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I want actually wireless charging like bluetooth or wifi.


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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 10:09 
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I want actually wireless charging like bluetooth or wifi.

Good luck with that.


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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 10:11 
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
these had infinite battery life:


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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 10:15 
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TheVision wrote:
Of course in my day, my Nokia 3210 would last for 3 months in between charges... and it didn't matter which way the charger was plugged in as it was circular.


Mine did 5

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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 10:17 
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
on my nightstand, having a wireless charger means never having to fumble around in the dark looking for the cable then fumble around more plugging it in


You should probably get some lights in your bedroom.


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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 10:17 
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
LewieP wrote:
I want actually wireless charging like bluetooth or wifi.

Good luck with that.

They can do it now but it's very inefficient, very noisy, very expensive, and it generates a lot of heat and causes cancer, but we'll get it eventually.


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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 10:17 
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
2) on my desk, having a wireless charger and Bluetooth headphones means I can put my phone down when I get to my desk and it'll pick up a charge, then scoop it back up when heading to meetings, lunch, coffee, etc. I might do that 15-20 times per day so not having to plug something in is meaningful.

It's not life changing but it is convenient.


I just went for a cheap and cheerful option for my desk. A couple of USB charging things that double as stands. They were only a few quid apiece, so they're not designed for the particular phone, but they do the job at least. The phone on the right is my old Galaxy Note 1 which no longer detects SIM cards so I use it as an always-on Google Analytics thing instead.

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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 10:25 
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Bamba wrote:
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
on my nightstand, having a wireless charger means never having to fumble around in the dark looking for the cable then fumble around more plugging it in


You should probably stop staying up long after your wife goes to bed playing Killing Floor 2.
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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
I can't remember when I last used a phone with an asymmetric charging port. Early 2015 maybe?


I charged my N-Gage with one just the other week.


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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 10:48 
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TheVision wrote:
Of course in my day, my Nokia 3210 would last for 3 months in between charges... and it didn't matter which way the charger was plugged in as it was circular.


Mine did 5


Ah, the benefits of not being very popular. ;)


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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 20:13 
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Pretty good hands-on with the Pixel 2 from The Verge: https://www.theverge.com/2017/10/4/1640 ... o-hands-on


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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
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Pfffft, I ain’t watching another Adam Sandler film.


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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 20:27 
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Pretty sure the Pixel 2 will be my next phone, I'm fed up with Samsung pushing down their crap updates to my S7 (NO I FUCKING DON'T WANT TO USE SAMSUNG CLOUD AND YOU BROKE MY DRIVE INTEGRATION YOU FUCKBUNNIES), or HTC abandoning the One-X after about 18 months, it was something like that anyway, as I recall the phone was basically 'abandonware' before my contract was even up on it, in terms of getting OS updates.

It rankles a bit that Google have entered the 'premium' smartphone space when the Nexuses of various iterations were all about high-end smartphone tech for a midrange sort of price - but I guess that's where the dollars are as far as Google is concerned.

Either way, I'm happy to stick with Android, but the 'pure' Google phones seem to be the way to go.

Contract is up next April, so we might even have them on the IOM by then......

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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
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Pfffft, I ain’t watching another Adam Sandler film.

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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 22:36 
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:

It's not life changing but it is convenient.


I'm not on the wireless charging train yet, but I can see the appeal in the future.

Can you get wireless charging mats big enough to take multiple items? I see that as being super convenient for the future, instead of having cables for phones, watches, headphones (er... and other stuff too...), just plonk them all on one pad overnight.

Also, if cars had a section on the dash (or, sensibly, in a cubby) that could also charge the phone while one is driving.

I tend to put my phone down in the same few places throughout the day - bedside table, in a dash-cubby in the car, work desk, arm of sofa so if these could also deliver a trickle of charge just to keep the phone topped up that'd be super.

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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
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Yes. For example, IKEA have a three-device one:

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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
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I wonder how long those bread rolls take to charge?


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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 3:15 
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Looks like the device has to sit centrally on the little 'cross'....What are the margins for positioning like?

I was kind of hoping that it would be a basic mat you could just chuck things on, with little regard for positioning, but perhaps that's a simple view

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