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I get that on my £10 nokia

it just means your phone didn't have any signal when the call was made, you normally get the text message when you are back in range of a mast again.

Malc

But it happens when I haven't been anywhere.

Local atmospheric conditions temporarily blocked the signal?

Malc

Perhaps, but I seem to be in the same place as these local atmospheric conditions an awful lot more than I was with any of my previous phones.

I got Donut OTA from Vodafone last night on my Magic. Everything feels a bit snappier, the new market has a much better layout, camera is better (but I use Snap Photo Pro already, so still probs won't use it) and the power settings widget is really good, even better than the toggle settings app I used until now (which has now been uninstalled). A nice little upgrade all-round, but Eclair looks like it's gonna be something a LOT more special!

http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2009/10/1 ... tle-dated/

new browser called Dolphin = awesome.

faster than the rubbish default one and has tabs and an easily found refresh option (as opposed to the default browser's 'click somewhere where there's not put an image' option).

Or menu: reload.

not on my HTC Hero. Trust me, I've looked.

I get six options (back, forward, new bookmark, bookmarks, windows and more). The 'more' option takes me to

find on page
copy text
page info
share page
downloads
history
settings

now maybe in settings there's a setting to unfuck this situation but it's all ready far too many button presses away for me to bother with.


Dolphin has tabs and gestures tho and is much faster as well. Greatness!

Menu -> Right hand button on the URL entry bar = Reload.

I have a Hero too, it's most definitely there.

arghhhhh!!!

well anyway, Dolphin is much much better.

I shall try it.

Photoshop mobile is available
I am giving it a go now.

Ooh, so it is. *snaffle*

Well, it crops, straightens, rotates, flips, blurs, black and whites, saturates, exposes and tints.

Which is about what the existing camera software did anyway. How very pointless.

FXcamera is quite fun - the cross-processing filter is surprisingly good, although the images produced are kind of tiny.

Hmm. What opinion do you have on this Droid advert?

It's actually quite good - it's about time Android started making a noise about what it can do. It needs to be a TV advert though, as there's going to be a lot of TL:DR.

Google Nexus One specs announced

http://www.google.com/phone/static/en_U ... specs.html

http://www.google.com/phone/

It has a shit dictionary app.

One. Fucking. Gigahertz.

Yeah, I know. That's some proper grunt.

So it has a touchscreen and a trackball?

Those piddly little trackballs are just a complete fucking pain.

Yep.

Nexus = want.

I hope the touch screen is a spiffy smooth as the iPhone.

Got mine already, losers!

http://twitpic.com/ww42a

Damn, and I was trying to find an image of the box for the C64 game of the same name.

Me too!

The Nexus One, nice as it is, ain't about Google selling phones. It's about Google having a phone out there that people are aware of, so people are aware that Google are in the mobile sector. Your average non-techy pleb on the street, following the high-profile mainstream news coverage of the Nexus One, will now go "Oh, Google do mobile phones", and so they'll walk into Carphones'R'Us4U Warehouse and go "Can I have a look at one of those Google phones?" and they'll get shown an HTC Hero or a Moto Droid or one of a billion* other Android phones. And Google won't care, because all they want is people using Android, because people using Android will be people seeing Google-delivered adverts, and that is what Android, and the Nexus One, is ultimately all about.

That's exactly what it's about, as Gaywood and I are discussing right now IN PRIVATECLEEQ.
But you're right about the fact the Nexus One not being that important - it's the fact that Google now sell unlocked phones direct. http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news/201 ... -a-url.ars has more information.

Apple need to start selling the iPhone unlocked out of the box, and sharpish.

I wouldn't be that surprised if they start selling it unlocked via the Google phone store.

[edit]Except they are still under contract to AT&T, I think.

They are under a lock-in exclusive contract everywhere except the UK. I would imagine we will see unlocked iPhones in time, direct from Apple -- but not until at least most of their regions have no exclusive carrier.

The nexus thing looks quite good at first glance - amazingly it even gets the ports right (3.5mm headphone socket *and* a micro-USB socket). That has to be a first.
The home screen looks pants compared to the iPhone one, but it's how well the software works and what's available that counts.

And battery life of course. 1Ghz processor eh?

I did a big thread about that not being the case at all, quite recently.

(And the Droid has a 3.5mm jack and USB charging, I'm pretty sure. Let me have a quick look - yes, it does)

The standby times look impressive at a first glance, though they're always a bit on the optimistic side. The actual usage figures look a bit low, though: 6.5 hours of Wi-Fi?

My Touch won't last more than a few hours if I'm using the WiFi a lot, be it buying from iTunes or browsing.

Yeah, I think that's 6.5 hours of data usage over wifi, not 6.5 hours with the wifi on.

When I lived out in the States no one I ever met had AT&T as their mobile provider. And I mean, no one.

Everyone either had Verizon or T Mobile. Some (usually builder types) had one that came with a two way radio that worked no matter where you are for free (well, as part of the contract of course). Forget what that was called now but it was brought out by someone. Sprint IIRC.

Any way, yeah, no one had AT&T on account of it being shit and a complete rip off. So it's kind of odd Apple decided to go with them exclusively in the U.S.

Indeed, but my 3GS boasts 9 hours and that's quite optimistic, too. Saying that, it says up to 300 hours of standby which, not only have I never come close (through using it too much, obviously) but is more than the Nexus claims.

Hmmm according to Kotaku:



What? That can't be true can it? Even the Wii has worked out how stupid that is.

EDIT: Long term I would like to have an 'open' Android phone by the way. Open platforms for the win etc.
EDIT EDIT: Battery life on the iPhone is terrible so based on that 6.5 hours for browsing seems quite likely.

It has occured to me that I could order an unlocked Nexus One for delivery to sistaflapjack's house for £330, then pick it up when I am in the States next week. Hmmm.

Push to talk.

You have it backwards. Apple demanded several unusual things from anyone who would sell the iPhone, such as a share of the monthly line rentals and that the operator couldn't install anything into the phone image. In return, Apple offered the cell operator a timed exclusivity deal, and even so, they still found it difficult to agree terms. I suspect AT&T were simply the network most willing to play ball with Apple. It's not like Apple went out and chose them on purpose; as you say, their reputation for customer care and network reliability is not great.

Yes, it's true. Android phones can only install apps on the core flash memory, which I think is 512Mb on all current models (can anyone confirm that?).

Apps include games, I guess? Monkey Island alone was bigger than that.

Yes. All user installable software and its data, as far as I am aware. Myst for iPhone is 1Gb+, and TomTom is 200-400Mb depending on map pack choice.

Crikey. That's a big negative point against Android phones for me then.

Google "are working on it". It came up at the post-Nexus press conference Q&A.

Good to hear. But until they sort it, I won't even consider swapping. The Android phones are the only serious competitor to the iPhone I've seen so far, but such a low limit on storage is a real disappointment.

Points and laughs.

"Doesn't allow multiple Apps" indeed

I've just checked, and I've used up 559MB on apps so far, and that's without bothering to do a proper sync after the Apple store wiped my phone.