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Author:  Dimrill [ Thu Aug 15, 2013 9:57 ]
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Yeah, Cam used to write back personally. Dunno whether they all took turns or something. I wrüt in asking about what options to take at high school and thanked him for replying to me when I found him on Twitter. It were then he said summut along the lines of "career and relationship advice, all in the day of a games journo".

Author:  Satsuma [ Mon Aug 19, 2013 18:44 ]
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There's a piece on Eternal Darkness in GamesTM this munff. Sadly, it's a little dry,

Author:  myp [ Tue Aug 20, 2013 7:38 ]
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Saturnalian wrote:
There's a piece on Eternal Darkness in GamesTM this munff. Sadly, it's a little dry,

Loved that game, but Too Human was so bad it went back in time and ruined it for me.

Author:  chinnyhill10 [ Tue Aug 20, 2013 13:40 ]
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Page 2 hasn't come out well which is annoying as it's a slating of Magic Pockets. When I get chance I'll try again.

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[edit: Dammit, why are they the wrong way?]

Author:  TheVision [ Tue Aug 20, 2013 14:05 ]
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I don't know why they're the wrong way but I can see the arrows to swap them around, but they don't do anything?

I wonder if it's broke?

Author:  myp [ Tue Aug 20, 2013 14:05 ]
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Author:  Grim... [ Tue Aug 20, 2013 15:43 ]
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TheVision wrote:
I don't know why they're the wrong way but I can see the arrows to swap them around, but they don't do anything?

I wonder if it's broke?

They move the main (linked to) image, not the preview. PHPBB gets angry if you change that.

Author:  TheVision [ Tue Aug 20, 2013 15:51 ]
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So I should stop messing, Yes?

Author:  Cras [ Tue Aug 20, 2013 16:17 ]
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Generally, if you use the arrows to turn an image, you have to force refresh the page to see the result, I find.

Author:  Cras [ Tue Aug 20, 2013 16:18 ]
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There we go.

Author:  TheVision [ Tue Aug 20, 2013 16:21 ]
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They're still the wrong way on the mobile site. I've refreshed and everything (I say everything.. All I've done is refreshed)

Author:  Grim... [ Tue Aug 20, 2013 19:29 ]
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Mine are fine. Refresh better.

Author:  Cras [ Tue Aug 20, 2013 19:34 ]
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:this:

Own that cache!

Author:  Grim... [ Tue Aug 20, 2013 21:11 ]
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Smash the cache!

Author:  throughsilver [ Tue Aug 20, 2013 21:30 ]
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Cache and carry!

No, wait...

Author:  Grim... [ Tue Aug 20, 2013 21:55 ]
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Johnny Cache.

Author:  MaliA [ Tue Aug 20, 2013 21:56 ]
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Bobby Tables

Author:  Grim... [ Tue Aug 20, 2013 22:00 ]
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MaliA wrote:
Bobby Tables

...

Author:  chinnyhill10 [ Tue Aug 20, 2013 22:26 ]
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New Computer Express, 28th Sept 1991.

Like it how Future stick the knife in during the final paragraph.

Author:  chinnyhill10 [ Tue Aug 20, 2013 23:11 ]
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Hang on, so you say the magazine is closing because it has an ABC of 20,000 which is around what it had since launch, and despite selling 4 issues a month you can't compete with monthly magazines with circulations of 70,00 a month?

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Might I suggest that the 16 bit only disk launched a month previously was the final nail in the coffin by alienating any readers without an ST/Amiga or PC and massively increasing the coverprice?

NCE's price shot up in it's final year. August 1990 it's 58p, by Jan 1991 it's 70p, rising to 88p by mid 1991. Then late August 1991 it jumps to £1.50.

Seems the final issue I purchased was just 2 weeks before it closed. I stopped buying it because it was expensive and all I was getting was a disk in the wrong shape for my computer. Whatever the spin Future put on it, £1.50 was a ludicrous amount to pay for a weekly magazine. The magic figure was under a quid.

Mind you this was them backing out of true multiformat mags for quite a while and nobody had attempted a weekly magazine since IIRC.

Author:  Anonymous X [ Wed Aug 21, 2013 1:40 ]
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There was Games-X a while as a weekly, which I'm sure outlasted NCE, but only just. I don't think that it lasted far into 1992 if at all. Odd little magazine that, didn't seem to know what to do with itself.

Author:  chinnyhill10 [ Wed Aug 21, 2013 12:13 ]
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Anonymous X wrote:
There was Games-X a while as a weekly, which I'm sure outlasted NCE, but only just. I don't think that it lasted far into 1992 if at all. Odd little magazine that, didn't seem to know what to do with itself.


Games X ran for a year until April 1992 as I took the last edition on holiday with me. Crash closed the same month IIRC but without any goodbye.

Would be interested to know what the reasons for closing Crash were when Zzap continued. Did it never recover from Newsfield shutting or was it on a downward trend anyway? No ABC's for them.

Ian Osborne might know.

Author:  Dimrill [ Wed Aug 21, 2013 14:51 ]
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I've got a few Games-Xs. I can understand why it closed. It was skimpier than a Retro Gamer article.

Author:  chinnyhill10 [ Wed Aug 21, 2013 14:54 ]
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Dimrill wrote:
I've got a few Games-Xs. I can understand why it closed. It was skimpier than a Retro Gamer article.


It also neglected machines it didn't feel were fashionable despite (as I posted a while back) them still having a significant market share at the time.

I never understood that about multi-format mags. Why ignore part of your potential audience?

Author:  Mr Dave [ Wed Aug 21, 2013 16:00 ]
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Because the people writing them were more interested in new and shiny

Author:  chinnyhill10 [ Wed Aug 21, 2013 16:17 ]
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Mr Dave wrote:
Because the people writing them were more interested in new and shiny


Probably. It's interesting to see how many of the 16 bit games that C+VG fawned over are now regarded as total rubbish. Shadow Of The Beast, Kick Off, etc.

Chase HQ is a excellent example of a game that scored highly across the board (barring the terrible C64 version) yet these days the ST and Amiga versions are generally regarded as pretty awful while the Spectrum and CPC versions are still lauded.

Author:  Anonymous X [ Thu Aug 22, 2013 1:14 ]
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Dimrill wrote:
I've got a few Games-Xs. I can understand why it closed. It was skimpier than a Retro Gamer article.

Reading RG these feels like going back to read one of your old GCSE texts when you're currently a first year university student, if that vaguely works as an analogy.

Author:  chinnyhill10 [ Thu Aug 22, 2013 1:32 ]
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Anonymous X wrote:
Dimrill wrote:
I've got a few Games-Xs. I can understand why it closed. It was skimpier than a Retro Gamer article.

Reading RG these feels like going back to read one of your old GCSE texts when you're currently a first year university student, if that vaguely works as an analogy.


I flicked through a copy in WH Smiths today. Nothing enticing at all.

Also couldn't believe how thin Computer Shopper was! I chucked some mid 90's copies a few months back that were probably around 300 pages. Granted most of that was adverts but even so.

Author:  Anonymous X [ Thu Aug 22, 2013 2:03 ]
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Used to read Computer Shopper regularly as my dad got a free subscription of some sort at work, which he took home but rarely had time to read. Yeah, it was like a telephone directly or Argos catalogue as its peak. Guess online retail has made most of the adverts it used to carry redundant. Remember it had Amiga and Acorn columns as late as 2000, and a Mac page that rarely mentioned anything vaguely related to computers.

(Last time I was in my dad's work office, he still had a floppy disk box filled with Computer Shopper coverdisks demagnetising in the back of a cupboard. Wouldn't be surprised if they were still there when he retired a few weeks ago.)

Author:  Dimrill [ Fri Aug 23, 2013 0:18 ]
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*snort* Just been offered three old issues of PC Zone for the bargain price of £13 each. No thanks.

Author:  Kern [ Fri Aug 23, 2013 6:49 ]
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My drunken Ebay purchase of the Cannon Fodder issue of AP came yesterday. Going to enjoy reading about the insults to our war dead.

Author:  chinnyhill10 [ Wed Aug 28, 2013 15:18 ]
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The offices of a magazine with attitude, 1991:

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Author:  Grim... [ Wed Aug 28, 2013 15:37 ]
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I guess that's Stu on the left - any ideas who the others are? Or what the poster on the wall is?

Author:  Dimrill [ Wed Aug 28, 2013 17:36 ]
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Middle 'un's probably Mark Ramshaw, which would make back of that shot... Matt Squires? Right would be Art Ed Amanda Cook. Probs.

Author:  chinnyhill10 [ Wed Aug 28, 2013 17:39 ]
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Same era, but further along the corridor in the office that AA and YS shared. Slightly more staged.

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Author:  chinnyhill10 [ Wed Aug 28, 2013 22:27 ]
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Meanwhile, over in crazy conspiracy theory land, the guy who runs the Konix site is claiming that Future were bankrolling the Multisystem based on the evidence they were named in the final creditors report as being owed money.

Or, and I'm taking a wild stab in the dark here, perhaps Konix bought a load of magazine advertising for their joysticks and went belly up without paying.

Can't think of which of those two seems more likely. I'm going for they were bankrolling the console. :facepalm:

Author:  Dimrill [ Thu Aug 29, 2013 15:56 ]
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*snort* HURK! HURRRRRK! HURRRRRK! *snort* HONK!

http://www.edge-online.com/news/for-the ... n-box-set/

Author:  chinnyhill10 [ Thu Aug 29, 2013 15:59 ]
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Dimrill wrote:
*snort* HURK! HURRRRRK! HURRRRRK! *snort* HONK!

http://www.edge-online.com/news/for-the ... n-box-set/


20 issues OF THE SAME FUCKING MAGAZINE?

Author:  Dimrill [ Thu Aug 29, 2013 17:19 ]
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You can't give away recent issues of Edge on eBay. If I was mental enough to collect them, which I am close to, I'd pay the pennies that eBay demands. Certainly not £85.

Author:  chinnyhill10 [ Thu Aug 29, 2013 18:50 ]
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Dimrill wrote:
You can't give away recent issues of Edge on eBay. If I was mental enough to collect them, which I am close to, I'd pay the pennies that eBay demands. Certainly not £85.


A complete set of ACE would be a nice thing to have. Or at least the Future years.

Author:  Dimrill [ Thu Aug 29, 2013 19:01 ]
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I have issues 1-30 of that. Plus an odd few in the 40s.

Author:  throughsilver [ Thu Aug 29, 2013 22:54 ]
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Man, looking at that Edge page, I really don'y give many hoots about this gen whatsoever. And I think I haven't regularly bought Edge since... 2003? Shame, really. I used to love it.

Now where is that Super Play collectors' set?

Author:  chinnyhill10 [ Wed Sep 04, 2013 23:04 ]
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Amstrad Action went through a phase of having staff on the front cover. But for some reason even though I'd seen photos of Chris Anderson, I hadn't put 2 and 2 together for the cover of issue 67:

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It is isn't it? I'm not going barmy?

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Author:  Malc [ Thu Sep 05, 2013 8:27 ]
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I had that edition of Amstrad Action!

Malc

Author:  chinnyhill10 [ Thu Sep 05, 2013 10:13 ]
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More staff on covers:

James Leach:

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Adam "Spec Tec" Waring:

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Possibly Trenton Webb:

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Art editor Ollie Alderton:

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Rod Lawton:

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Steve Carey:

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Adam Peters, twice:

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There are more people on other covers who are almost certainly Future staffers who I don't recognise.

Author:  throughsilver [ Thu Sep 05, 2013 18:13 ]
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Adam Peters looks like Ade Price in that top pic.

Also: his hairstyle is once again cool, he'll be pleased to know.

Author:  chinnyhill10 [ Thu Sep 05, 2013 19:47 ]
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throughsilver wrote:
Adam Peters looks like Ade Price in that top pic.

Also: his hairstyle is once again cool, he'll be pleased to know.


I like all of those AA covers. No qualms about putting blokes on the cover. While over at Amiga Format they were putting dullness like this out. The generic woman cover:

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Which Future continues to use to this bloody day!

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Bring back beardy men peering through a magnifying glass!

I'll say something for those AF covers though, at least the woman aren't Photoshopped to hell and back.

Author:  throughsilver [ Thu Sep 05, 2013 21:16 ]
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Is that because it was't around then, and any manipulation would leave them looking like they're in the Chaos Engine?

Author:  chinnyhill10 [ Thu Sep 05, 2013 21:20 ]
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throughsilver wrote:
Is that because it was't around then, and any manipulation would leave them looking like they're in the Chaos Engine?


Well yes, but that PC Format cover is so airbrushed it's disturbing.

Author:  Dimrill [ Fri Sep 06, 2013 15:23 ]
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Sounds bad at Future if you read a certain ex-AP writer's latest tweets.

Quote:
Fragile sense of job security shattered by a roving band of company IT guys looking for unused gear to eBay.


:S

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