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Which was more boring?
Amiga Format 19%  19%  [ 4 ]
CU Amiga 9%  9%  [ 2 ]
Amiga Shopper 71%  71%  [ 15 ]
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Now that's a bad cover.


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Now that's a bad cover.


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To be fair though, everything reminds you of that.

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To be fair though, everything reminds you of that.


Only 20% of all things.

Trying to think of some of the worst covers. Amstrad Action had some weak ones when the money ran out. I guess that's kind of excusable though.

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Trying to think of some of the worst covers. Amstrad Action had some weak ones when the money ran out. I guess that's kind of excusable though.


At least none of them say boldly on the front cover how many pages are in the magazine.
I'm interested in how many out of the 132 were adverts of some description and how many were actual content.

I remember getting a hold of some US magazines back in the late 8-bit / early 16-bit days and being amazed at the size of them until you realise that of the few hundred pages easily 85% were adverts.


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chinnyhill10 wrote:
Trying to think of some of the worst covers. Amstrad Action had some weak ones when the money ran out. I guess that's kind of excusable though.


At least none of them say boldly on the front cover how many pages are in the magazine.


I don't think those AA's screaming "24 PAGES" on the cover would help sales. :DD


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I remember getting a hold of some US magazines back in the late 8-bit / early 16-bit days and being amazed at the size of them until you realise that of the few hundred pages easily 85% were adverts.


"Personal Computer World" used to be the size of a couple of house bricks*, and finding content used to be really tricky.

* I was very small when Dad used to bring them home from work, so this might be an exaggeration.


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I remember getting a hold of some US magazines back in the late 8-bit / early 16-bit days and being amazed at the size of them until you realise that of the few hundred pages easily 85% were adverts.


"Personal Computer World" used to be the size of a couple of house bricks*, and finding content used to be really tricky.

* I was very small when Dad used to bring them home from work, so this might be an exaggeration.


I remember someone writing to AA moaning about the page count compared to Amiga Format and AA pointing out that although AF had 100 more pages than AA, AA only in fact had about 20% less actual editorial content.

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I remember getting a hold of some US magazines back in the late 8-bit / early 16-bit days and being amazed at the size of them until you realise that of the few hundred pages easily 85% were adverts.


Stand forward Amiga Format!

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I'm trying to decide who had the more unfortunate 90s haircut, Uncle Flattop or Julian Rignall.

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I'm trying to decide who had the more unfortunate 90s haircut, Uncle Flattop or Julian Rignall.


Why don't you mullet over?

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How to get your magazine withdrawn from WH Smiths in 1 easy lesson:

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Still holds its value, that issue. Same as the Unclear User issue of Crash. Number 19 IIRC.

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Still holds its value, that issue..


I guess the reduced circulation combined with the chances of finding an unsoiled copy makes it somewhat valuable.


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My dad got an earful from my mum for buying that issue of YS... Memories.


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My dad got an earful from my mum for buying that issue of YS... Memories.


Ironically page 3 has far worse yet WH Smiths would happily sell a copy of The Sun to a kid.


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Another new issue of Retro Gamer in the post. That's it, I'm really making the effort to cancel my subscription now. Nothing worth reading in it at all. Crappest possible article topics too: PC games, 'the history of' platform games, the PlayStation 2. Really scraping the barrel in terms of content, then there's the issue it'd declining quality of presentation and so on. Feels like one of those 8-bit or 16-bit magazines at the end of their lives, running out of energy and possible content, but without having the creativity of say Amiga Power in its final year fill the gaps in an entertaining way. I won't be missing anything not reading RG, and TBH I've recycled the last several issues after a single brief reading anyway. (Last proper good issue was the one the Skool Daze cover, IMO.)


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Another new issue of Retro Gamer in the post. That's it, I'm really making the effort to cancel my subscription now. Nothing worth reading in it at all. Crappest possible article topics too: PC games, 'the history of' platform games, the PlayStation 2. Really scraping the barrel in terms of content, then there's the issue it'd declining quality of presentation and so on. Feels like one of those 8-bit or 16-bit magazines at the end of their lives, running out of energy and possible content, but without having the creativity of say Amiga Power in its final year fill the gaps in an entertaining way. I won't be missing anything not reading RG, and TBH I've recycled the last several issues after a single brief reading anyway. (Last proper good issue was the one the Skool Daze cover, IMO.)


I only buy it if I go on holiday now. The mag is stuck in a major rut, it's like Groundhog day.

The mag has already surpassed the number of issues of many of the 8 bit mags like YS, Crash and Zzap which died off in their 90's. It's fast approaching the 117 of Amstrad Action and the 134 of Sinclair User. RG has 1 more issue a year but all of those magazines changed vastly during their lives. They also turned over editors, writer and columnists at an unbelievable rate. Fresh talent brings fresh ideas and a new broom always sweeps clean!


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True! IMO there's also the problems of RG maybe running out of suitably 'retro' games to cover which can be properly researched, and the falling production values.


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I recommend buying Retro Fusion http://www.retrofusion.me.uk/ . Fun mag, covers stuff like toys as well. If they hadn't've (yes, had't've) been fucked over by Gamestation they'd easily be as big as Retro Gamer now.

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I tell you what will save Retro Gamer... a feature on Zelda.

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Or Sonic! I don't think anyone's wrut aboot Sonic yet.

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Brilliant idea! We should start our own retro magazine... We can call it "Retro Power" and write about Zelda one month and Sonic the next. Every quarter we could do a feature on Mario games and include the fact that he first appeared in Donkey Kong as Jumpman.

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Brilliant idea! We should start our own retro magazine... We can call it "Retro Power" and write about Zelda one month and Sonic the next. Every quarter we could do a feature on Mario games and include the fact that he first appeared in Donkey Kong as Jumpman.

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All you need to do is to take a base year (1995, say), then each month reprint a multi-format magazine from that time changing everything into the past tense.


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Zelda Ocarina of Time came out in December 1998 I think.. We should start there.


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Zelda Ocarina of Time came out in December 1998 I think.. We should start there.


FACT: "Retro" means anything a large publisher has paid us to advertise in the mag.


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All you need to do is to take a base year (1995, say), then each month reprint a multi-format magazine from that time changing everything into the past tense.

I actually loved those Edge collected editions they did a few years back. I want more. Were there only three?

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All you need to do is to take a base year (1995, say), then each month reprint a multi-format magazine from that time changing everything into the past tense.

Make that year to 2003, and you almost have Retro Gamer as it is now...


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All you need to do is to take a base year (1995, say), then each month reprint a multi-format magazine from that time changing everything into the past tense.

I actually loved those Edge collected editions they did a few years back. I want more. Were there only three?


yeah, they only did 3 Edge Files, the next two were a best games evar rubbish thing and a quite nice Videogame Arts doodad. Hasn't been an Edge special since. 2008 that were. Rubbish.

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Dimrill wrote:
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Kern wrote:
All you need to do is to take a base year (1995, say), then each month reprint a multi-format magazine from that time changing everything into the past tense.

I actually loved those Edge collected editions they did a few years back. I want more. Were there only three?


yeah, they only did 3 Edge Files, the next two were a best games evar rubbish thing and a quite nice Videogame Arts doodad. Hasn't been an Edge special since. 2008 that were. Rubbish.

Ah, the blue, amber and red ones?

Didn't mind the best games ever thing. Had the old lists, and got me to buy that modern R Type game.

I think that's when I last bought Edge at all, pretty much.

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I appear to have bought 24kg of Amiga Format. I... think I'm not well.

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throughsilver wrote:
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All you need to do is to take a base year (1995, say), then each month reprint a multi-format magazine from that time changing everything into the past tense.

I actually loved those Edge collected editions they did a few years back. I want more. Were there only three?


yeah, they only did 3 Edge Files, the next two were a best games evar rubbish thing and a quite nice Videogame Arts doodad. Hasn't been an Edge special since. 2008 that were. Rubbish.

Ah, the blue, amber and red ones?

Didn't mind the best games ever thing. Had the old lists, and got me to buy that modern R Type game.

I think that's when I last bought Edge at all, pretty much.


They also did 2 Retro editions (2002 and 2003 i think)

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Three! There's this one too:

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Plus four "Equip"s, PC, PSX, GameCube and Xbox, two Essential Hardware Guides, and "The 100 most significant reviews from the first 100 issues".

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It's nowt special. Goes for between 5-10 quid on eBay nowadays if you desperately want to get it.

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I appear to have bought 24kg of Amiga Format. I... think I'm not well.


That's gonna be a big delivery:

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They done arrived! Finally got to look at issue 18 again. The very first Amiga mag I ever done bought. Bip on the coverdisk! Lemmings demo! Heady times.

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Whenever Dad's subscription copy of AF arrived, my brother and I would usually end up fighting over who would read it first. Usually, either the magazine or myself came off worst.


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Man I'd love to get my hands on the subs letter for AmiPow...

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Nah, I've already got ADFs of them anyway. Most have got the Backstage subs letter with em. Got issues 15-19, 22, 24-63 now. Of course, now I've started.....

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Nah, I've already got ADFs of them anyway. Most have got the Backstage subs letter with em. Got issues 15-19, 22, 24-63 now. Of course, now I've started.....


Please scan a picture of Bruno Brookes + Jakki Brambles holding Amigas with shit eating corporate grins. None of my AF's have these adverts in but I know they existed.

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They done arrived! Finally got to look at issue 18 again. The very first Amiga mag I ever done bought. Bip on the coverdisk! Lemmings demo! Heady times.

I remember that issue too! My parents and uncle played the Lemmings demo a lot that Christmas. So much so, they couldn't be bothered with the full game when it eventually arrived. I suspect that was common.

First Amiga magazine I had was issue 6 of AF, which I sadly no longer have. Still have 10 and 12 in my bookcase, just about readable still. Unfortunately AMR only has scans of the games reviews and not the rest of the magazine. I have strong memories still of reading that issue, about a week before my dad bought a Batman Pack, and just pouring over all the screenshots of games with proper colour graphics, mesmerised.

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Man I'd love to get my hands on the subs letter for AmiPow...

I have 2 or 3 left, in not too great condition. You can have them if I can still find them.


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Whenever Dad's subscription copy of AF arrived, my brother and I would usually end up fighting over who would read it first. Usually, either the magazine or myself came off worst.


Your brother sounds a right twat.

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Whenever Dad's subscription copy of AF arrived, my brother and I would usually end up fighting over who would read it first. Usually, either the magazine or myself came off worst.


Your brother sounds a right twat.


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Three! There's this one too:

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Plus four "Equip"s, PC, PSX, GameCube and Xbox, two Essential Hardware Guides, and "The 100 most significant reviews from the first 100 issues".

Ah, I missed the Retros too. I was gutted about them. Well, the one with the reviews in, anyway. I have some Equips, but they were kinda boring.

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I'm pretty sure i have that yellow retro issue. I can try and find it if anyone needs it? I also have a best of games tim retro book i think?


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