Moral Dilemma

myp · **Posted:** Thu Jun 04, 2009 7:59

Right, at my workplace we have a thing called 'Green Travel'. If you commute by public transport, bicycle or car share, you can claim points at a machine in reception (10 points a day, which equates to 50p). When you've built up enough points for something you want, you can request vouchers that can be used in most shops.

Anyway, today I saw someone arrive on a motorbike (on his own) and use the machine after I'd used it. I'm not sure what to do, because on one hand it's fraud and abusing a system set up to encourage people to leave their cars and bikes at home, but on the other hand I don't want to feel like a dirty dobber. I'm a bit pissed off because I work hard at cycling every day and feel like I earn my free game every three months. I'd feel guilty if I reported it, though.

What should I do?

WTB · **Joined:** 27th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 14497

Report him, safe in the knowledge that the slimy cunt would almost certainly do the same to you.

Trousers · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 3088

Definitely report him the cheeky fucker - I'm assuming you can do it anonymously so there's no ill will generated?

MaliA · **Posted:** Thu Jun 04, 2009 8:09

I'd ignore it.

Maybe he forgot to get his points when he came in the other day, or it was someone else's card that he was stamping for them whist they were doing something else. Little beans to make an enemy over I would have thought.

WTB · **Joined:** 27th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 14497

MaliA wrote:

I'd ignore it.

Maybe he forgot to get his points when he came in the other day, or it was someone else's card that he was stamping for them whist they were doing something else. Little beans to make an enemy over I would have thought.

DON'T LISTEN TO THIS REASONABLE BASTARD. HE'S ALWAYS SO REASONABLE. BE MEAN.

MaliA · **Posted:** Thu Jun 04, 2009 8:13

Set up a blog site where you impotently rage about things. Put it up there.

andyb · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 489

I'd say using a motorbike is possibly more 'green' than a car, so some points might be fair.

WTB · **Joined:** 27th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 14497

MaliA wrote:

Set up a blog site where you impotently rage about things. Put it up there.

Also, remember what happens when you confront people. They'll chase you in a lorry and shout at you.

chinnyhill10 · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 15695

MaliA wrote:

I'd ignore it.

Maybe he forgot to get his points when he came in the other day, or it was someone else's card that he was stamping for them whist they were doing something else. Little beans to make an enemy over I would have thought.

MaliA not wanting to grief shocker - Press conference at 9.

myp · **Posted:** Thu Jun 04, 2009 8:16

I just checked with facilities and they are eligible for points, so dilemma resolved.

Bobbyaro · **Joined:** 18th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 11920

Also, are you sure that he isn't collecting something like half points for coming on a bike instead of a car, or somesuch thing? Or he may genuinely think that a motorbike is green.

On the other hand, he is completely ruining the point of the scheme, so I would be tempted to do something.

Edit, just seen your post.

MaliA · **Posted:** Thu Jun 04, 2009 8:18

andyb wrote:

I'd say using a motorbike is possibly more 'green' than a car, so some points might be fair.

I wouldn't.

MaliA · **Posted:** Thu Jun 04, 2009 8:23

chinnyhill10 wrote:

MaliA wrote:

I'd ignore it.

Maybe he forgot to get his points when he came in the other day, or it was someone else's card that he was stamping for them whist they were doing something else. Little beans to make an enemy over I would have thought.

MaliA not wanting to grief shocker - Press conference at 9.

I'm upping my karma until the exams are over.

Trousers · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 3088

myp wrote:

I just checked with facilities and they are eligible for points, so dilemma resolved.

Yay - although hopefully less points that the human powered two wheeled variety. If you had left it you may have frothed inside until you exploded one day and attacked the Zovirax woman out of motorcycle hate. Asking about it was a good thing.

myp · **Posted:** Thu Jun 04, 2009 8:25

I suspect it's something to do with freeing up parking spaces here - they are at a premium.

ApplePieOfDestiny · **Joined:** 17th Dec, 2008 **Posts:** 8293

myp wrote:

I suspect it's some corporate bollocks so that the company can spout in their CSR about how much they are doing to save the environment while actually expending as little money and effort as possible.

FTFY

kalmar · **Posted:** Thu Jun 04, 2009 9:13

myp wrote:

I suspect it's something to do with freeing up parking spaces here - they are at a premium.

I think the general encouragement of motorbikes is that they don't tend to add to congestion. Pollution-wise they're typically far worse than an average car.

Oh, and your company will like them as statistically it's good news for the pension scheme.

Grim... · **Posted:** Thu Jun 04, 2009 9:18

I want a scheme like that

MaliA · **Posted:** Thu Jun 04, 2009 9:23

Grim... wrote:

I want a scheme like that

Don't you work from home?

Grim... · **Posted:** Thu Jun 04, 2009 9:24

Nopes. I get the ferry to work.

KovacsC · **Posted:** Thu Jun 04, 2009 9:26

Grim... wrote:

Nopes. I get the ferry to work.

I used to use the Thames Ferry, when I had to work in London for 3 months.. it was a great way to get from the Hotel (Hilton Docklands) to London Bridge ( I think)

MaliA · **Posted:** Thu Jun 04, 2009 9:26

Grim... wrote:

Nopes. I get the ferry to work.

Well, I know that, but the small bit of amusement it caused me in my mind to imagine a self employed home worker awarding himself points for not using the car to get to work it was worth it, and I thought I'd share.

kalmar · **Posted:** Thu Jun 04, 2009 9:28

MaliA wrote:

Grim... wrote:

Nopes. I get the ferry to work.

Well, I know that, but the small bit of amusement it caused me in my mind to imagine a self employed home worker awarding himself points for not using the car to get to work it was worth it, and I thought I'd share.

If it would encourage Grim... to stop using his chauffeur to take him from the bedroom to the office in the west wing, I think he deserves those points.

Cras · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 49253

I've got images of him getting horsey rides now.

Curiosity · **Posted:** Thu Jun 04, 2009 12:06

Craster wrote:

I've got images of him getting horsey rides now.

Who's his butler? Arnold Schwarzenegger?

sinister agent · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 7046

Where is the option to follow him home and murder his family semi-jovially confront him about it?

metalangel · **Posted:** Thu Jun 04, 2009 17:59

MaliA wrote:

andyb wrote:

I'd say using a motorbike is possibly more 'green' than a car, so some points might be fair.

I wouldn't.

Yes, but you're the biker from Raising Arizona, riding to work at full throttle while shooting lizards and grenading bunnies.

Cras · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 49253

At least he's that and not the biker from Naked Under Leathers.

RuySan · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 3542

eheh, that's definitely a british thing to do, trusting people to do that. Obviously that wouldn't work here (it seems it doesn't work there either, to be fair)

sinister agent · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 7046

RuySan wrote:

eheh, that's definitely a british thing to do, trusting people to do that. Obviously that wouldn't work here (it seems it doesn't work there either, to be fair)

Nah, I think a tiny portion of people taking the piss is normal, and understood as inevitable and a small price to pay for things like that.

GovernmentYard · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 5318

One bloke on a sensibly engined bike deserves green points more than two cunts in a chelsea tractor, must do.

Nemmie · **Joined:** 13th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 1643

Report him and let his tyres down.

Hmm should have read the whole thread before posting, just let his tyres down.

metalangel · **Posted:** Thu Jun 04, 2009 19:26

Nemmie wrote:

Report him

Fair enough.

Quote:

and let his tyres down.

Yes, let's kill him, that'll teach him. He's probably in the BNP and doesn't have a TV licence either. And I bet he was speeding on the way in, too, being a biker and all.

MaliA · **Posted:** Thu Jun 04, 2009 19:29

MetalAngel wrote:

Nemmie wrote:

Report him

Fair enough.

Quote:

and let his tyres down.

Yes, let's kill him, that'll teach him. He's probably in the BNP and doesn't have a TV licence either. And I bet he was speeding on the way in, too, being a biker and all.

he probably has the front to filter to the front of queues in traffic as well, the little scamp.

metalangel · **Posted:** Thu Jun 04, 2009 19:31

I bet he had sex before marriage, and licked the woman's foo, and sees himself naked while showering! Mali, grab the pitchforks, I'll get some torches and ring the Daily Mail.

Grim... · **Posted:** Thu Jun 04, 2009 19:37

I bet he downloads copyrighted music.

Grim... · **Posted:** Thu Jun 04, 2009 19:38

GovernmentYard wrote:

One bloke on a sensibly engined bike deserves green points more than two cunts in a chelsea tractor, must do.

Myp lives in a forest, man. Not many people from Chelsea around there.

JBR · **Joined:** 2nd Jun, 2008 **Posts:** 3346

myp wrote:

I just checked with facilities and they are eligible for points, so dilemma resolved.

This is quite entertaining, though, given

Quote:

I work hard at cycling every day

reminding me (I am obviously a bit odd) of the Police Academy scene where two recruits get a full buzz cut, the next asks for a trim and they go "what? Can we just have that?!" All that cycling and you could have had a motorbike.

You still win, like, I'm just saying.

sinister agent · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 7046

JBR wrote:

myp wrote:

I just checked with facilities and they are eligible for points, so dilemma resolved.

This is quite entertaining, though, given

Quote:

I work hard at cycling every day

reminding me (I am obviously a bit odd) of the Police Academy scene where two recruits get a full buzz cut, the next asks for a trim and they go "what? Can we just have that?!" All that cycling and you could have had a motorbike.

You still win, like, I'm just saying.

The Weekly wrote:

Sir:

My friend Harry and I are diabolists, and seven years ago we succeeded in summoning the devil to our place of black worship, which at the time was my garage. Our purpose in calling Satan was the usual one, and, gesturing to a vision which showed me steeped in wealth and power, the devil asked what I was prepared to give for this to come true. Naturally, I replied, "My soul," to which Satan said, "Right," and we exchanged the necessary pledges. Satan then turned to Harry and, offering him the same vision of wealth and power, asked what he was prepared to give in return. Harry said, "A big hug," to which Satan replied, "Right," and they too exchanged pledges.

Over the last seven years, Harry and I have led our separate, immensely fulfilling lives and we've greatly enjoyed our power and wealth. At midnight tonight Satan comes to take my soul, while all Harry has to do is to give him a big hug. My point is, think carefully before you make a deal with the devil. Thanks for listening.

Bensel Tamelly
Tamelly Towers

myp · **Posted:** Fri Jun 05, 2009 8:45

Heh, I still prefer cycling.

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