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PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2018 17:38 
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You're right, it is easily fixed


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 Post subject: Re: Bikes
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My cyclocross bike runs with disc brakes; had literally no issues with them at all.

Super easy to adjust and super sharp too.


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Kris wrote:
My cyclocross bike runs with disc brakes; had literally no issues with them at all.

Super easy to adjust and super sharp too.


Wicked. I have no idea how the calipers even work yet so it's going to be fun to learn :) I will go with something like this to start I think.

http://www.wiggle.co.uk/clarks-cmd-11-m ... ake-rotor/

Well, if I can fit a 160mm disc on there. I might need to go 140, but haven't measured it all up or made carboard templates etc.

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Just make sure you're expecting it when you brake for the first time we don't want you going over your bars and face planting.


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To complete the RTS, I need some magura hs33 brakes and a rock shox Judy. I might get a judy xc rather than the dh, so if anyone sees one, give me a shout.

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 Post subject: Re: Bikes
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Had a quick google @MaliA there's a bunch of them on eBay you might find one there.


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 Post subject: Re: Bikes
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Would it not be worth buying a bike with disc bakes?

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JC already has the bike Kov; he's just modifying it with some fancy brakes.


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 Post subject: Re: Bikes
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I'd recommend not using the Clarks brakes though. Get a Shimano, avid or trp caliper, worlds apart for mechanicals.
Shimano do a basic hydraulic that comes pre bled with lever, caliper, pads and cable for £50


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Kris wrote:
JC already has the bike Kov; he's just modifying it with some fancy brakes.


Fair enough, my next road bike will be getting disc brakes. I am not a fan of rim brakes at all

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I'd recommend not using the Clarks brakes though. Get a Shimano, avid or trp caliper, worlds apart for mechanicals.
Shimano do a basic hydraulic that comes pre bled with lever, caliper, pads and cable for £50


I was thinking about hydraulic but they only seem to come in black with black hoses. I am sure a mech brake will be fine, but will get something slightly better :) I have a TRP Donny Robinson Vbrake on my race BMX and it's lovely. Carbon lever, titanium bolts etc.

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JC already has the bike Kov; he's just modifying it with some fancy brakes.


Fair enough, my next road bike will be getting disc brakes. I am not a fan of rim brakes at all


I don't mind them, but they do wreck your rim surface. I already have brake rub (black) on the front wheel. I have white pads on the rear, will switch those to the front when I fit the disc.

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Just make sure you're expecting it when you brake for the first time we don't want you going over your bars and face planting.


I have a one mile test ride I take every time I have worked on a bike. So I will try it then haha. I have a feeling it will eat pads, because the wheels are heavy. However, that weight really starts to pay off when you get them moving on the sealed bearings.

Oh yeah, I got my carbon cranks today. Arms are practically spotless but the BB is knackered (rattles and grumbles) and it is not 135 BCD as he advertised it so the £25 ring I bought doesn't jeffing fit. He said he was flexible (it's quite late too tbh) so we will see.

I kinda knew I was going to have to swallow a new BB because anything less than perfect is not good enough. ISIS BBs have come down in price a lot so you can get a top end Kooka for about twenty quid. The ring though? yeah, am expecting some compo on that. I have opened it now and would feel bad returning it, given it was my fault.

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 Post subject: Re: Bikes
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I have had rim brakes for 3 years and my wheels are not wreaked. You are using pads for carbon wheels aren't you?

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 Post subject: Re: Bikes
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I have had rim brakes for 3 years and my wheels are not wreaked. You are using pads for carbon wheels aren't you?


Wheels are alu dude. They are powder coated :D

Carbon wheels are beautiful, but cost more than the bike.

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Ok, the markings should just wipe off then..

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 11:27 

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I was going to say that it shouldn't eat the pads but you mentioned it being heavy; my bikes less than 10kg so it's light as balls so I couldn't comment.


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 Post subject: Re: Bikes
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 Post subject: Re: Bikes
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Oh, back in the day, Shimano M system canti blocks were amazing for the one ride they lasted. I used Madison Aztec blocks for years which were about 80%as good as M but a lot longer lasting. Cornish mining slag made for high wear.

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 Post subject: Re: Bikes
PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 11:47 
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Kris wrote:
I was going to say that it shouldn't eat the pads but you mentioned it being heavy; my bikes less than 10kg so it's light as balls so I couldn't comment.


It weighs 12kg with the mags on. Without them it weighs *does LB to KG conversion* 8.6kg with the cro mo cranks on. It's a very light bike tbh. It would be, it cost a grand (New at RRP). Thing is I asked myself do I want it any lighter and the answer was no. It would feel too light, and I find that really unnerving. Always have. I bought the mags so that I don't have to continually keep taking it to have the wheels trued (terrible OCD for things like that) and with the only local bike shop being in Chi (Chichester) it's hideously expensive. He charged me £48 to lace a wheel (it did include spokes, but he charged me £30 for those, I could have gotten top end for less than £20). Mind you that being said the tolerances on this bike are so tight that a slight buckle would literally lock up the wheel.

We'll see. Apparently what I had (the wheels like) was very high end also, I just don't like them. But they're there (well, in the ex wife's wardrobe lmao) if I ever want to go skinny :D

OK so seller of cranks got back to me. He is going to pay the £25 for the chain ring cock up. However, he is not willing to give me anything for the BB as according to him once you get it in and tighten it up it miraculously stops making those noises :roll:

Having said all of that I knew I would buy a new BB set for it any way. Mostly because ISIS is difficult for me to extract (a regular crank puller works, but needs washers and it goes through 3 per extraction crushing them) and because I CBA doing all of that work only to have to pull the sodding thing off again.

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There really isn't much I don't like about ISIS BBs, apart from the fact that you can't change the bearings. Well, not without a puller and a hydraulic press etc.

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You're right, it is easily fixed


It's beautiful but tbh? I doubt it weighs much less than what I have. I have a carbon seat post here somewhere just like that one...

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I will have to crack the vernier out on that.. I replaced it with this.

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That reminds me, I must get me some of that carbon grease (well, it's more like little balls from what I read).

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 Post subject: Re: Bikes
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At 12kg or 8kg unless you're braking constantly and really hard, you definitely won't be eating through the pads too fast.

You going to try out the BBs before you replace?


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At 12kg or 8kg unless you're braking constantly and really hard, you definitely won't be eating through the pads too fast.

You going to try out the BBs before you replace?


No it's absolutely toast. The spline rattles in the bearings now. I mean you think about how old these cranks are (at least four years) that's a long time to be on a BB. I have a brand new ISIS BB here (127mm, doh) and it is absolutely nothing like the POS he sold me.

Just the noise it is making alone is terrible. I kinda knew that though, which is why my offer was quite low (£60 delivered). New? the arms were over £300. They do need clear coating, and whilst I am at it I am going matt clear because I don't like shiny carbon. But yeah, other than some wear in the clear coat they were minty. Will cost me less than £100 all in fitted.

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 Post subject: Re: Bikes
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What a cheeky little bastard selling you a dodgy one. Worth arguing about?


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 Post subject: Re: Bikes
PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 13:31 
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Did i already mention in this thread i have a bianchi via nerone 7 105 now?

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 Post subject: Re: Bikes
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What a cheeky little bastard selling you a dodgy one. Worth arguing about?


Nah. He is paying for the chain ring so that will do. It was the arms I wanted. IDK if I would ever use a used BB either.

Just took the cranks off the bike. Jesus titty effing crap. It is a 48 spline.. Ended up destroying it. One arm refused to come off (I am now all bruised and cut) but thankfully one finally gave in. Then I had to get the washers I had used (that had pressed into the thread !) off which took more force than I care to think about.

Still, it's off and I can fit the new BB as and when.

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 Post subject: Re: Bikes
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romanista wrote:
Did i already mention in this thread i have a bianchi via nerone 7 105 now?

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Bloody hell that looks nice; how does it ride?

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What a cheeky little bastard selling you a dodgy one. Worth arguing about?


Nah. He is paying for the chain ring so that will do. It was the arms I wanted. IDK if I would ever use a used BB either.

Just took the cranks off the bike. Jesus titty effing crap. It is a 48 spline.. Ended up destroying it. One arm refused to come off (I am now all bruised and cut) but thankfully one finally gave in. Then I had to get the washers I had used (that had pressed into the thread !) off which took more force than I care to think about.

Still, it's off and I can fit the new BB as and when.


Nicely done; the things we do for something to ride ey? :D


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romanista wrote:
Did i already mention in this thread i have a bianchi via nerone 7 105 now?

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Lovely !

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romanista wrote:
Did i already mention in this thread i have a bianchi via nerone 7 105 now?

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That is nice...

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Aye, beautiful ride man.

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I am off to Mrs JC Sr's house tomorrow I think I am going to take them (and the matt clear coat, sand paper and black paint) to hers and do them there. Much easier 'cause I can hang them to clear them and get access all the way around. There aren't many bad areas, worst is at the top of the non drive side arm (scratches in the clear).

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Did i already mention in this thread i have a bianchi via nerone 7 105 now?

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Bloody hell that looks nice; how does it ride?



It rides lovely (even though i did brake my hip falling of it in april)..


but the feeling compared to my old giant speedster is immense....finally feeling like the energy you put into it properly converts to speed... you can see it in my strava times (like 5s on this little climb near my house https://www.strava.com/activities/15018 ... 7458780099 )

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I'm always amazed by your colour choices, JC.


Funny you mention that... I used to be obsessed with orange things. I had the neon socks in the 80s, then had this really nice peach coloured jacket I was obsessed with for years. Apparently shocking orange is the Aquarian's favourite colour.

All that said though when I ordered it I thought "yeah, gonna have to get that powder coated". But it started to grow on me. Now? I absolutely love it.

I'm half done on the cranks. You can see the scratches here. I painted in the pedal mount area in gloss..

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They had already had a thorough sanding and cleaning (degrease, then isoprop). There were still some very deep scratches though, so I carried on wet sanding. Then I put on two coats of matt clear, and, well

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There's a really beautiful pattern in the carbon tbh. It's not carbon like fibre though, it's like a solid lump or something? dunno, but it looks amazing. Got the other half to do, but there is nowhere near as much damage/scratches on that side (that's why I picked the bad side first).

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I got my "do rag". I look like a Harley rider.. lol. Any way, I have a set of these that I bought new (they are from circa 1998, graphite composite)

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Which I thought would go well on the carbon cranks. Just one problem, they are supposed to be white but 20 years has taken its toll and they're kinda yellow. I could peroxide or "retro brite" them but I feel it could compromise the strength. So I decided to get this instead.

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After being shown what it can do a few weeks ago...

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Obs I will hit the cages with 3 coats of matt clear afterwards.

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Hmmm I'm not sure JC.

It doesn't look orange enough to me.


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Wat. That image didn't work.


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WORKED NOW ITS A DUCK.


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 Post subject: Re: Bikes
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Ordered my bike on Thursday; they still haven't even confirmed it's been dispatched *sigh*


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Ordered my bike on Thursday; they still haven't even confirmed it's been dispatched *sigh*


That's a real ball breaker :(

When I ordered my PK it took five days to ship. And their EBay feedback wasn't exactly glowing either with things like "waited five days then told me no stock".

That was the longest 5 days of my life.

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 Post subject: Re: Bikes
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Well I'm ordering it from a shop so if they don't have it in stock then I'll cancel the order lol


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It just takes a while to sort it..

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That's a real ball breaker :(

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Well I'm ordering it from a shop so if they don't have it in stock then I'll cancel the order lol


Hmm. Well they either have it, or they don't and they are drop shipping it. The latter part sucks, that is what the company I got mine from do.

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The might be ordering it in, and assembling it. As most bike shops won't keep all bikes off all sizes in stock.

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Well, I ordered from the website and apparently, the website and the shop do not have integrated systems they basically act as independent entities that happen to be the same.

It's getting delivered to the shop and assembled there (although all they have to do is put some bloody wheels on it's not rocket science) but trying to get a straight answer out of them is like pulling hen's teeth.

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Right so just called the website requesting information on when the bike will be delivered to which they tell me 'Oh that was delivered on the 2nd July'.

So much for the store calling me and telling me it was in, so I'm going in this evening to pick it up. :roll:


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Right so just called the website requesting information on when the bike will be delivered to which they tell me 'Oh that was delivered on the 2nd July'.

So much for the store calling me and telling me it was in, so I'm going in this evening to pick it up. :roll:


Wahey that's good right?

Pics or it didn't happen !

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I'll post em don't worry.

(Unless the weather forecast is correct and it is thunderstorming)


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Kris wrote:
I'll post em don't worry.

(Unless the weather forecast is correct and it is thunderstorming)


You have rubber wheels you will be fine

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Oh I'm going to be doing the cycling it's the taking the pictures that will be reconsidered.


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