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Author:  Curiosity [ Tue Feb 06, 2018 13:25 ]
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Cras wrote:
Curiosity wrote:
But there’s a new trilogy planned doing just these things! I am more interested in seeing that than I am about what Boba Fett did between the prequel series and his ill-fated journey into the Sarlacc.


Well quite. One origin story (unless you'd like to count the Death Star Plans origin story) in 13 films and a host of associated series is hardly self-indulgent.


I’d be tempted to bundle in the entire prequel trilogy as well, tbh.

I’m still cool with them doing more, like a cool Obi-Wan movie, but do also try new things, else we’ll run that well of nostalgia dry.

Author:  Grim... [ Tue Feb 06, 2018 13:26 ]
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Cras wrote:
Curiosity wrote:
But there’s a new trilogy planned doing just these things! I am more interested in seeing that than I am about what Boba Fett did between the prequel series and his ill-fated journey into the Sarlacc.


Well quite. One origin story (unless you'd like to count the Death Star Plans origin story) in 13 films and a host of associated series is hardly self-indulgent.

You could count the three films for Vader's origin story.

Author:  DavPaz [ Tue Feb 06, 2018 13:27 ]
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How about a Ken Loach style social issues movie.... but set on Coruscant?

Author:  Squirt [ Tue Feb 06, 2018 13:36 ]
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I'm hoping for an Aaron Sorkin-style political drama set within the corridors of the Imperial Palace.

Author:  Zardoz [ Tue Feb 06, 2018 13:44 ]
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Jar-Jar Land.

Author:  LewieP [ Tue Feb 06, 2018 14:30 ]
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I actually want whatever the current movies timeline is era Speed Racer type movie about the next generation of pod racers.

Author:  MaliA [ Tue Feb 06, 2018 14:38 ]
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LewieP wrote:
I actually want whatever the current movies timeline is era Speed Racer type movie about the next generation of pod racers.


Days of Thunder in a Star Wars setting.

Author:  Findus Fop [ Tue Feb 06, 2018 14:43 ]
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I'd be up for Han and Chewie in Brokeback Falcon.

Author:  Curiosity [ Tue Feb 06, 2018 14:56 ]
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Kinky love between an empire general and a rebel soldier:

Fifty Shades of Imperial Grey

Author:  devilman [ Tue Feb 06, 2018 15:07 ]
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MaliA wrote:
LewieP wrote:
I actually want whatever the current movies timeline is era Speed Racer type movie about the next generation of pod racers.


Days of Thunder in a Star Wars setting.


I'd watch Days of Thunder if part-way through the film, it transitioned into the opening scene of The Final Destination

Author:  Mr Russell [ Tue Feb 06, 2018 18:52 ]
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Zardoz wrote:
Jar-Jar Land.

Not enough love for this.

Great work Zardoz.

Author:  Satsuma [ Fri Feb 09, 2018 23:09 ]
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Daddy’s Home 2...*exhausted sigh*

I hate everything Will Ferral has done except Anchorman. Unless someone can remind me of something else he was in that was better than just alright.

Author:  Cras [ Fri Feb 09, 2018 23:56 ]
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No, he's awful. Why in god's name did you watch it?

Author:  DavPaz [ Sat Feb 10, 2018 0:07 ]
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Stranger Than Fiction is very good

Author:  Mr Russell [ Sat Feb 10, 2018 0:20 ]
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Zoolander

Author:  TheVision [ Sat Feb 10, 2018 0:40 ]
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Elf.

Author:  JBR [ Sat Feb 10, 2018 1:18 ]
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Elf yourself.

Author:  Grim... [ Sat Feb 10, 2018 4:01 ]
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50/50

Author:  Grim... [ Sat Feb 10, 2018 4:01 ]
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Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back

Author:  Hearthly [ Sat Feb 10, 2018 10:28 ]
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Quick shout out for 'GOOD TIME' which has just appeared on Netflix and I watched last night.

I'm still recovering from the flu so you get a lazy review.

It has that chap out of Twilight in it who is very good actor.

Quote:
'Good Time' is a prime example of what the cynical or the uninterested might dismiss as “feel-bad cinema” — low budget, kitchen-sink realism about unpleasant people in worse situations. It also happens to be one of the most uncompromising movies I’ve seen all year: vibrant and desperate and alive, it’s a work hanging on by its fingernails. If you lament the loss of that gutter ferocity with which filmmakers like Martin Scorsese once walked the Earth, brother, here’s your cinematic B-12 shot.


https://www.bostonglobe.com/arts/movies ... story.html

925/1000


Author:  markg [ Sat Feb 10, 2018 11:09 ]
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Yeah I mentioned this when it first came on Netflix. Amazing film. Reminded me of After Hours more than anything, just a crazy trip through the night that doesn't let up for a moment.

Author:  Satsuma [ Sat Feb 10, 2018 12:54 ]
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TheVision wrote:
Elf.


Yeah that was pretty good.

Will Ferrell has been following the Adam Sandler approach to movies: Do a decent one or two and then live on the reputation of those while you churn out garbage and dogshit doing the same old schtick time and time again while increasingly becoming a caricature of that one good thing you did.

Author:  Hearthly [ Sat Feb 10, 2018 19:21 ]
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markg wrote:
Yeah I mentioned this when it first came on Netflix. Amazing film. Reminded me of After Hours more than anything, just a crazy trip through the night that doesn't let up for a moment.


Oh sorry I missed that, I did do a search for 'good time' before posting to see if there was a previous comment about it but that's not a great search term and basically brought back everything.

Author:  Satsuma [ Sun Feb 11, 2018 14:25 ]
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Films wot I watched:

Suburbicon: The Coen brothers/George Cloony mashup. It’s alright but surprisingly predictable. Normally, with these kinds of films, it’s the performances that keep you watching but there’s nothing here that elevates it above The Coen brothers previous films. It’s very middle of the road but entirely watchable.

Coco: The new Pixar one which is brilliant. The Day of the Dead stylings are fabulous, the characters are full of charm and wit and I loved the Mexicana music and slightly sinister story. This deserves to be watched. Mind you it got me thinking, I watch some anime stuff in my time and I’m surprised that the big studios stateside refuse to take a stab at something more mature.

Roman J. Israel, Esq: Denzil Washington’s oscar nod is ... bland. Denzil is ‘good,’ I suppose, insofar as he is a top-tier actor but his character is unlikeable. I wanted Denzil to give this emotional heart breaking performance but instead he’s this Sheldon Cooper-esq lawyer that I couldn’t warm to. We don’t actually get to see much ‘actoring’ as the plot pushes Denzil along from one contrivance to the next. When the big twist comes (which we see from a fucking county mile away as the director doesn’t like subtly) I wasn’t emotionally invested at all. I just didn’t care. Nah, it ain’t really worth your time.

Author:  Sir Taxalot [ Sun Feb 11, 2018 22:34 ]
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Satsuma wrote:
Daddy’s Home 2...*exhausted sigh*

I hate everything Will Ferral has done except Anchorman. Unless someone can remind me of something else he was in that was better than just alright.


The Other Guys

Author:  Hearthly [ Mon Feb 12, 2018 10:22 ]
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I rewatched RAMBO FIRST BLOOD last night for the millionth time, it's such a fantastic film, and in many regards highlights why modern films are so shit and old films are so good. (Yes I appreciate that's a massive generalisation but it was the thought that crossed my mind as the opening scenes played out.)

Within 5 minutes it establishes character and context, we immediately sympathise with our protagonist and understand that the antagonist is not evil, but nonetheless is at odds with the goals of Rambo.

The opening escape and chase scene is a timeless action setpiece, and leads into a taut, beautifully paced and filmed mid-section, until Rambo returns to destroy the town that hurt him, before finally breaking down, and Stallone shows to my mind that he has some proper acting chops.

I've probably watched this film 20-25 times or more over the years, and can quite happily recite the entire script.

Do not confuse First Blood with the second and third films, which are awful. First Blood however remains a genuine classic.

930/1000

Author:  Grim... [ Mon Feb 12, 2018 10:43 ]
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It's just First Blood, isn't it?

Author:  Hearthly [ Mon Feb 12, 2018 10:48 ]
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Grim... wrote:
It's just First Blood, isn't it?


I'm more getting at when people think of Rambo they perhaps think of First Blood Part Two as 'The Rambo Film', and think of Rambo films in general as being ridiculous and bombastic action films where Rambo destroys the world.

Whereas First Blood is altogether a more quiet and considered affair. Well, until Rambo destroys a small chunk of the world, but we have established MOTIVATION by this point.

EDIT - Oh and the 2008 Rambo film is amazeballs of course, but for very different reasons.

Author:  Satsuma [ Mon Feb 12, 2018 10:58 ]
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Grim... wrote:
It's just First Blood, isn't it?


In the film it’s title is just First Blood but I think some territories the poster was Rambo First Blood and some just Rambo (EDIT and some First Blood. Natch). I might be wrong, mind.

Author:  Zardoz [ Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:10 ]
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Satsuma wrote:
Daddy’s Home 2...*exhausted sigh*

I hate everything Will Ferral has done except Anchorman. Unless someone can remind me of something else he was in that was better than just alright.

Elf

Author:  Zardoz [ Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:18 ]
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Hearthly wrote:
I rewatched RAMBO FIRST BLOOD last night for the millionth time, it's such a fantastic film

Led to most of our cub scout group buying hunting knives with sewing kits and compass in the handle.

Then a ban on hunting knives with sewing kits and compass in the handle in ourt cub scout group.

Author:  GazChap [ Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:48 ]
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First Blood is ace. I recited Sly's monologue at the end while doing a (passable?) impression of Stallone while in a crowded pub with Jem, once. The waitress that was serving us didn't know quite what to make of it ;)

THE LEGS.

Author:  Bamba [ Mon Feb 12, 2018 12:53 ]
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GazChap wrote:
The waitress that was serving us knew exactly what to make of it but was too polite to say


Feex.

Author:  Jem [ Mon Feb 12, 2018 13:11 ]
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Bamba wrote:
GazChap wrote:
The waitress that was serving us knew exactly what to make of it but was too polite to say


Feex.

:DD

Author:  GazChap [ Mon Feb 12, 2018 14:16 ]
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Yes, quite probably.

Author:  JBR [ Wed Feb 14, 2018 9:16 ]
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Black Panther! Really enjoyed that. Couple of post credits scenes, including one right at the end (as per, but in case you think you might be sitting there for nothing, as I often do). There's a general sense of joy, particularly from Lupita Nyong'o, who lights up the screen when she's on. Parts of it seemed to drag a bit, though that might be because it effectively created a sense of a different culture, so the pacing was just ...different.

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Only one moment where they announced "The Black..." slowly enough that my brain autofilled in "Vegetable". I loved the fact that the cities of Wakanda looked so alive. Partly due to the advanced tech, but also because they weren't pasted in advertising. If you accept there's a general soft message of multiculturalism and that we're all brothers and sisters, this is a nice addition along the lines of 'this super advanced culture has moved beyond capitalism in some undefined and unexplained way.

Author:  RuySan [ Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:24 ]
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Seen Get Out, after all the hype, i came a bit disappointed, even though it was fun.

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The racial angle is what set this film apart from other slasher/revenge films of the kind, but it felt really tacked on because it made absolutely no sense.

Why did the armitages abducted only black people? One character (the art dealer) explained it, but it made no sense at all that explanation. So they are not racists, quite the opposite, if their grandparents decide to keep on living in the bodies of black people.

And why did the grandparents were working as house servants? Was this to cheat the main character or the audience? I'm sure it was the second, and this is one aspect of storytelling i really hate.

Author:  DavPaz [ Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:33 ]
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RuySan wrote:
Seen Get Out, after all the hype, i came a bit disappointed, even though it was fun.

ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view!
The racial angle is what set this film apart from other slasher/revenge films of the kind, but it felt really tacked on because it made absolutely no sense.

Why did the armitages abducted only black people? One character (the art dealer) explained it, but it made no sense at all that explanation. So they are not racists, quite the opposite, if their grandparents decide to keep on living in the bodies of black people.

And why did the grandparents were working as house servants? Was this to cheat the main character or the audience? I'm sure it was the second, and this is one aspect of storytelling i really hate.

ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view!
The racism is very very far from tacked on. The racism of the family is so ingrained that they only value black people for their physical attributes (throwback to slavery, much?), whether that is for sex, stamina or beauty. They take black people because they arrogantly assume that won't be missed. The grandparents aren't living as servants, but playing a part whilst the protagonist is there.

So... I think you missed the point a little

Author:  Grim... [ Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:01 ]
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JBR wrote:
Couple of post credits scenes, including one right at the end (as per, but in case you think you might be sitting there for nothing, as I often do).

Bosh http://www.mediastinger.com into your bookmarks.

Author:  RuySan [ Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:58 ]
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DavPaz wrote:
RuySan wrote:
Seen Get Out, after all the hype, i came a bit disappointed, even though it was fun.

ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view!
The racial angle is what set this film apart from other slasher/revenge films of the kind, but it felt really tacked on because it made absolutely no sense.

Why did the armitages abducted only black people? One character (the art dealer) explained it, but it made no sense at all that explanation. So they are not racists, quite the opposite, if their grandparents decide to keep on living in the bodies of black people.

And why did the grandparents were working as house servants? Was this to cheat the main character or the audience? I'm sure it was the second, and this is one aspect of storytelling i really hate.

ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view!
The racism is very very far from tacked on. The racism of the family is so ingrained that they only value black people for their physical attributes (throwback to slavery, much?), whether that is for sex, stamina or beauty. They take black people because they arrogantly assume that won't be missed. The grandparents aren't living as servants, but playing a part whilst the protagonist is there.

So... I think you missed the point a little


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the casual racism until the "twist" was very well done and and script well written. It's only that it fell apart when the movie turned into a horror movie. I also thought about the "won't be missed" reason, but the US is also filled with impoverished whites (the whole "white/trailer thrash thing"), so why live the rest of their days as blacks if they're so racist?

Author:  Cras [ Wed Feb 14, 2018 12:17 ]
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I can't be racist, my favourite kidnapped and murdered host body is black!

Author:  LewieP [ Wed Feb 14, 2018 12:27 ]
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Yeah there's definitely a strong element of fetishization.

Author:  RuySan [ Wed Feb 14, 2018 12:35 ]
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Cras wrote:
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I can't be racist, my favourite kidnapped and murdered host body is black!


ahahah

Well, the "i can't be racist because i have black friends" works as a fallacy only within itself. If you're married to a black woman and have black sons and daughters, can't you claim "I can't be racist because i have a black wife"? Well, that was what our ex-Prime Minister once said. This is not a rhetorical question, it's a legitimate question.

Author:  markg [ Wed Feb 14, 2018 12:39 ]
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No.

Author:  Satsuma [ Wed Feb 14, 2018 12:48 ]
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There can never be any condition or circumstance that grants immunity from being racist, don’t be daft.

Author:  Zardoz [ Wed Feb 14, 2018 12:54 ]
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RuySan wrote:
If you're married to a black woman and have black sons and daughters, can't you claim "I can't be racist because i have a black wife"? Well, that was what our ex-Prime Minister once said. This is not a rhetorical question, it's a legitimate question.

Other races exist. Not just black and white.

Author:  DavPaz [ Wed Feb 14, 2018 13:17 ]
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RuySan wrote:
DavPaz wrote:
RuySan wrote:
Seen Get Out, after all the hype, i came a bit disappointed, even though it was fun.

ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view!
The racial angle is what set this film apart from other slasher/revenge films of the kind, but it felt really tacked on because it made absolutely no sense.

Why did the armitages abducted only black people? One character (the art dealer) explained it, but it made no sense at all that explanation. So they are not racists, quite the opposite, if their grandparents decide to keep on living in the bodies of black people.

And why did the grandparents were working as house servants? Was this to cheat the main character or the audience? I'm sure it was the second, and this is one aspect of storytelling i really hate.

ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view!
The racism is very very far from tacked on. The racism of the family is so ingrained that they only value black people for their physical attributes (throwback to slavery, much?), whether that is for sex, stamina or beauty. They take black people because they arrogantly assume that won't be missed. The grandparents aren't living as servants, but playing a part whilst the protagonist is there.

So... I think you missed the point a little


ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view!
the casual racism until the "twist" was very well done and and script well written. It's only that it fell apart when the movie turned into a horror movie. I also thought about the "won't be missed" reason, but the US is also filled with impoverished whites (the whole "white/trailer thrash thing"), so why live the rest of their days as blacks if they're so racist?

Because money makes it all ok

Author:  Grim... [ Wed Feb 14, 2018 13:32 ]
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RuySan wrote:
If you're married to a black woman and have black sons and daughters, can't you claim "I can't be racist because i have a black wife"?

I used to work with a girl who had a Jamaican husband, and she was the most racist person I knew.

She figured it gave her a pass. It did not.

Author:  RuySan [ Wed Feb 14, 2018 14:26 ]
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Zardoz wrote:
RuySan wrote:
If you're married to a black woman and have black sons and daughters, can't you claim "I can't be racist because i have a black wife"? Well, that was what our ex-Prime Minister once said. This is not a rhetorical question, it's a legitimate question.

Other races exist. Not just black and white.


According to Americans yes, there's one more: "Asian". Sometimes there's a fourth one "Hispanic".

As for in the real world, there's a multitude of ethnicities, not "races", but that's not what Americans refer to when they babble about "diversity".

Author:  markg [ Wed Feb 14, 2018 14:34 ]
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Are you sure you aren't just thinking of something you saw on a police TV show where they're describing someone's physical appearance in necessarily vague terms? America is a country made up of people from all over the place, I'd say they're quite well aware of these things.

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