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On third watch, I've decided I quite like Alien Covenant and to hell with you all.

MrChris wrote:

On third watch, I've decided I quite like Alien Covenant and to hell with you all.

You must surely agree that everyone in it is astoundingly stupid and everything that happens to them is a direct result of them being astoundingly stupid though, right?

The decision to head to the new planet was a sound one. It was closer, and clearly habitable. So good choice there. When they arrived in orbit it was clearly covered in vegetation and water, so a fantastic, and massively unlikely find. Yay for team Covenant.

Investigating a crashed ship is not an unusual thing to do – and indeed is precisely what happened in Alien, so unless we’re undermining the whole franchise, that’s not completely stupid either. So it was not astoundingly stupid to go and have a shufty on this new planet hat was only slightly out of their way and investigate the signal and the crashed ship at the end of it. So all good there too.

Biologist woman dragging infected man back to the lander was not completely stupid either – what else are you going to do? Pilot lady was right to lock them in the med bay.

David’s intervention was something that clearly came as a WTF, but they had an explanation as to why he was there – they knew about the missing Prometheus. It’s non-obvious that a synthetic would be a massive, massive psycho with daddy issues so following a familiar face was not insane.

The only specific two things I can think of that were stupid are (a) that pretty lady going off to have wash on her own and (b) religious replacement captain following the now-obviously insane David down into a cellar, and then sticking his face in an alien egg.

Letting anyone out onto the surface of an alien planet without full hazmat and quarantine?

Risking a ship full of colonists to rescue three people on a planet?

So what you are saying is this laundry list of very stupid decisions are all things you'd decide to do if placed in the same situation?

Feel free to provide some sort of counterfactual beyond "they were stupid".

Cras wrote:

Risking a ship full of colonists to rescue three people on a planet?

That one paid off.

The decision to head to the new planet was a sound one. It was closer, and clearly habitable.

MrChris wrote:

The decision to head to the new planet was a sound one. It was closer, and clearly habitable.

Jeopardising a carefully planned mission by throwing in a million unknown variables?

Not sound.

MrChris wrote:

The decision to head to the new planet was a sound one. It was closer, and clearly habitable.

Jeopardising a carefully planned mission by throwing in a million unknown variables?

Not sound.

Not visible from orbit though! Or indeed from the ground. And there was just as likely to be something inpleasant on the other planet.

If you'd been in charge we'd never have had an empire. "Oh don't get off the ship Smithers, those delicious pineapples and locals will give you a horrific gene altering disease".

The problem, of course, is that the whole series is stupid. Quarantine! That's a great idea... It's never been seen in the entire series, though.

Cras wrote:

MrChris wrote:

On third watch, I've decided I quite like Alien Covenant and to hell with you all.

You must surely agree that everyone in it is astoundingly stupid and everything that happens to them is a direct result of them being astoundingly stupid though, right?

Well, no.
Spoilers:

ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view!

But you’ve got similar stupid things in all the Alien films – and indeed any film where anyone is in anyway in peril. That’s usually how they end up in peril in the first place.

“The year was 1996 and Bonham Carter complained on record that people didn’t take her seriously because she was pretty and middle class.

At that time it was only actresses like Helena that were getting interviewed: people thought all actors or actresses thought the way they did,” Burke says. “Helena was doing a lot of work – and I think that’s where my umbrage came from. So I just wrote a letter to Time Out, that’s the only way I could think to express what I felt.”

The letter, which was printed, said: “As a lifelong member of the non-pretty working classes, I would like to say to Helena Bonham Carter (wholly pledged member of the very pretty upper-middle classes): shut up you stupid cunt.”

The wee joke in Moana is brilliant

I watched The Princess Bride for the first time last night.

Was the perfect film to round off a busy weekend with the family.

Zardoz wrote:

I watched The Princess Bride for the first time last night.

Was the perfect film to round off a busy weekend with the family.

I too watched this for the first time today.

It was a very pleasant way to spend a couple of hungover hours with Mini Fop.

I hadn't realised what a star-studded affair it is. It was Mini Fop's first exposure to Peter Cook and she seems to be a fan. Will get some Derek and Clive for her 6th birthday.

Also, I had always thought the spanish sword fighter was played by Timothy Dalton. Because he looks like Timothy Dalton. I certainly wasn't expecting him to be played by SAUL FUCKING BERRENSON. I felt mighty confused for some time about that. I think I might still be.

Was also surprised to see lots of familiar scenery, with many of the countryside scenes being filmed in places I spent a lot of time as a kid in Derbyshire, like Wynetts Pass outside Castleton.

Findus Fop wrote:

Wynetts Pass

*chuckles*

DavPaz wrote:

Findus Fop wrote:

Wynetts Pass

*chuckles*

traffic can be horrific up there, it gets terribly snarled up.

I watched The Girl With All The Gifts last night and really, really enjoyed it. It's ostensibly a post-apocalyptic zombie film but it's done with a slant I doubt you'll have seen before ...

Bamba wrote:

I watched The Girl With All The Gifts last night and really, really enjoyed it. It's ostensibly a post-apocalyptic zombie film but it's done with a slant I doubt you'll have seen before ...

... unless you’ve played The Last of Us.

Ellie isn't actually a 'zombie' whereas Melanie being explicitly on that side of the fence from the outset is, to me, it's USP (especially when you consider the ending).

I’ve considered the ending and I’ve decided it was garbage. I did write some words about it on here a fair while back I think. Essentially I thought it was brilliant until the last 20-odd minutes when it got very shit very fast. Still, as you say, very good (until then).

Also, having bothered to search back on your previous posts, you never actually bothered to explain what you didn't like about the ending even at the time so it's genuinely impossible to comment meaningfully.

'Killer App' was added to Netflix today. I managed 8 minutes before turning it off.

devilman wrote:

'Killer App' was added to Netflix today. I managed 8 minutes before turning it off.

I don't even have any idea what that's about so I'm completely out on a limb but I'm guessing that they started with the title and just went from there.

A young hacker creates an "antisocial" networking app that matches enemies instead of friends. When her enemies start turning up dead, she must uncover who or what is behind it before it's too late

I've not seen the movie of The Girl With All The Gifts, but the book was okay.

I remember thinking there was no way in hell I wouldn't have shot the girl right at the start, though.

There’s a sequel out now, I think, or at least due very soon.

the writer has done a lot of cool stuff over the years...a load of Marvel comics and suchlike

Curiosity wrote:

There’s a sequel out now, I think, or at least due very soon.

What Do You Get For Christmas For The Girl Who Had All The Gifts Last Year

Doctor Glyndwr wrote:

Curiosity wrote:

There’s a sequel out now, I think, or at least due very soon.

What Do You Get For Christmas For The Girl Who Had All The Gifts Last Year

*applause GIF*

Author:	Cras [ Fri Oct 27, 2017 14:38 ]
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MrChris wrote: On third watch, I've decided I quite like Alien Covenant and to hell with you all. You must surely agree that everyone in it is astoundingly stupid and everything that happens to them is a direct result of them being astoundingly stupid though, right?

Author:	MrChris [ Fri Oct 27, 2017 14:51 ]
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Cras wrote: MrChris wrote: On third watch, I've decided I quite like Alien Covenant and to hell with you all. You must surely agree that everyone in it is astoundingly stupid and everything that happens to them is a direct result of them being astoundingly stupid though, right? Well, no. Spoilers: ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view! The decision to head to the new planet was a sound one. It was closer, and clearly habitable. So good choice there. When they arrived in orbit it was clearly covered in vegetation and water, so a fantastic, and massively unlikely find. Yay for team Covenant. Investigating a crashed ship is not an unusual thing to do – and indeed is precisely what happened in Alien, so unless we’re undermining the whole franchise, that’s not completely stupid either. So it was not astoundingly stupid to go and have a shufty on this new planet hat was only slightly out of their way and investigate the signal and the crashed ship at the end of it. So all good there too. Biologist woman dragging infected man back to the lander was not completely stupid either – what else are you going to do? Pilot lady was right to lock them in the med bay. David’s intervention was something that clearly came as a WTF, but they had an explanation as to why he was there – they knew about the missing Prometheus. It’s non-obvious that a synthetic would be a massive, massive psycho with daddy issues so following a familiar face was not insane. The only specific two things I can think of that were stupid are (a) that pretty lady going off to have wash on her own and (b) religious replacement captain following the now-obviously insane David down into a cellar, and then sticking his face in an alien egg. But you’ve got similar stupid things in all the Alien films – and indeed any film where anyone is in anyway in peril. That’s usually how they end up in peril in the first place.

Author:	Cras [ Fri Oct 27, 2017 14:53 ]
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Letting anyone out onto the surface of an alien planet without full hazmat and quarantine?

Author:	Cras [ Fri Oct 27, 2017 14:54 ]
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Risking a ship full of colonists to rescue three people on a planet?

Author:	Doctor Glyndwr [ Fri Oct 27, 2017 14:58 ]
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So what you are saying is this laundry list of very stupid decisions are all things you'd decide to do if placed in the same situation?

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Author:	MrChris [ Fri Oct 27, 2017 15:05 ]
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Cras wrote: Letting anyone out onto the surface of an alien planet without full hazmat and quarantine? One can only assume that's the approach they were going to take with the original planet they were heading to.

Author:	MrChris [ Fri Oct 27, 2017 15:06 ]
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Cras wrote: Risking a ship full of colonists to rescue three people on a planet? That one paid off.

Author:	Doctor Glyndwr [ Fri Oct 27, 2017 15:08 ]
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MrChris wrote: Feel free to provide some sort of counterfactual beyond "they were stupid". I haven't even seen the film, I just like winding you up.

Author:	Cras [ Fri Oct 27, 2017 15:21 ]
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MrChris wrote: Cras wrote: Risking a ship full of colonists to rescue three people on a planet? That one paid off. That is absolutely the criteria required when assessing risk, yes. WAIT NO, THE OTHER THING

Author:	GazChap [ Fri Oct 27, 2017 15:40 ]
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MrChris wrote: The decision to head to the new planet was a sound one. It was closer, and clearly habitable. Jeopardising a carefully planned mission by throwing in a million unknown variables? Not sound.

Author:	MaliA [ Fri Oct 27, 2017 15:49 ]
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GazChap wrote: MrChris wrote: The decision to head to the new planet was a sound one. It was closer, and clearly habitable. Jeopardising a carefully planned mission by throwing in a million unknown variables? Not sound. Oh, you were in that subterfuge game, too. It was quite the talk on Monday night.

Author:	Cras [ Fri Oct 27, 2017 16:17 ]
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GazChap wrote: MrChris wrote: The decision to head to the new planet was a sound one. It was closer, and clearly habitable. Jeopardising a carefully planned mission by throwing in a million unknown variables? Not sound. Also it was seeded with organisms that kill you mercilessly. An odd definition of clearly habitable.

Author:	MrChris [ Fri Oct 27, 2017 17:32 ]
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Not visible from orbit though! Or indeed from the ground. And there was just as likely to be something inpleasant on the other planet.

Author:	Cras [ Fri Oct 27, 2017 18:31 ]
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MrChris wrote: Not visible from orbit though! Or indeed from the ground. And there was just as likely to be something inpleasant on the other planet. Which is why you have the aforementioned inviolable quarantine procedures.

Author:	KovacsC [ Sat Oct 28, 2017 16:27 ]
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Seen Thor 3, bloody great film. It is one of the funniest Marvel films. It is in my top 3 Marvel. GOTG, Deadpool and Thor 3

Author:	MrChris [ Fri Oct 27, 2017 18:35 ]
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If you'd been in charge we'd never have had an empire. "Oh don't get off the ship Smithers, those delicious pineapples and locals will give you a horrific gene altering disease".

Author:	Pundabaya [ Fri Oct 27, 2017 18:37 ]
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The problem, of course, is that the whole series is stupid. Quarantine! That's a great idea... It's never been seen in the entire series, though.

Author:	Cras [ Fri Oct 27, 2017 18:54 ]
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MrChris wrote: If you'd been in charge we'd never have had an empire. "Oh don't get off the ship Smithers, those delicious pineapples and locals will give you a horrific gene altering disease". I also, of course, wouldn't be horribly dead.

Author:	MrChris [ Fri Oct 27, 2017 20:24 ]
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Neither are 99% of the people on the Covenant!

Author:	Grim... [ Sat Oct 28, 2017 10:08 ]
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Pundabaya wrote: The problem, of course, is that the whole series is stupid. Quarantine! That's a great idea... It's never been seen in the entire series, though. Except Alien.

Author:	KovacsC [ Sat Oct 28, 2017 16:32 ]
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MrChris wrote: Cras wrote: MrChris wrote: On third watch, I've decided I quite like Alien Covenant and to hell with you all. You must surely agree that everyone in it is astoundingly stupid and everything that happens to them is a direct result of them being astoundingly stupid though, right? Well, no. Spoilers: ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view! The decision to head to the new planet was a sound one. It was closer, and clearly habitable. So good choice there. When they arrived in orbit it was clearly covered in vegetation and water, so a fantastic, and massively unlikely find. Yay for team Covenant. Investigating a crashed ship is not an unusual thing to do – and indeed is precisely what happened in Alien, so unless we’re undermining the whole franchise, that’s not completely stupid either. So it was not astoundingly stupid to go and have a shufty on this new planet hat was only slightly out of their way and investigate the signal and the crashed ship at the end of it. So all good there too. Biologist woman dragging infected man back to the lander was not completely stupid either – what else are you going to do? Pilot lady was right to lock them in the med bay. David’s intervention was something that clearly came as a WTF, but they had an explanation as to why he was there – they knew about the missing Prometheus. It’s non-obvious that a synthetic would be a massive, massive psycho with daddy issues so following a familiar face was not insane. The only specific two things I can think of that were stupid are (a) that pretty lady going off to have wash on her own and (b) religious replacement captain following the now-obviously insane David down into a cellar, and then sticking his face in an alien egg. But you’ve got similar stupid things in all the Alien films – and indeed any film where anyone is in anyway in peril. That’s usually how they end up in peril in the first place. Investigating a new planet without a environment protection suit... just silly

Author:	MaliA [ Sun Oct 29, 2017 10:55 ]
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https://www.theguardian.com/culture/201 ... ng-classes Kathy Burke is great, but not solely because of this: Quote: “The year was 1996 and Bonham Carter complained on record that people didn’t take her seriously because she was pretty and middle class. At that time it was only actresses like Helena that were getting interviewed: people thought all actors or actresses thought the way they did,” Burke says. “Helena was doing a lot of work – and I think that’s where my umbrage came from. So I just wrote a letter to Time Out, that’s the only way I could think to express what I felt.” The letter, which was printed, said: “As a lifelong member of the non-pretty working classes, I would like to say to Helena Bonham Carter (wholly pledged member of the very pretty upper-middle classes): shut up you stupid cunt.”

Author:	MaliA [ Sun Oct 29, 2017 16:05 ]
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The wee joke in Moana is brilliant

Author:	ApplePieOfDestiny [ Sun Oct 29, 2017 18:10 ]
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MaliA wrote: The wee joke in Moana is brilliant Improved only when you realise it’s grim... doing it.

Author:	Grim... [ Sun Oct 29, 2017 20:49 ]
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I should really watch Moana.

Author:	Findus Fop [ Sun Oct 29, 2017 23:11 ]
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Zardoz wrote: I watched The Princess Bride for the first time last night. Was the perfect film to round off a busy weekend with the family. I too watched this for the first time today. It was a very pleasant way to spend a couple of hungover hours with Mini Fop. I hadn't realised what a star-studded affair it is. It was Mini Fop's first exposure to Peter Cook and she seems to be a fan. Will get some Derek and Clive for her 6th birthday. Also, I had always thought the spanish sword fighter was played by Timothy Dalton. Because he looks like Timothy Dalton. I certainly wasn't expecting him to be played by SAUL FUCKING BERRENSON. I felt mighty confused for some time about that. I think I might still be. Was also surprised to see lots of familiar scenery, with many of the countryside scenes being filmed in places I spent a lot of time as a kid in Derbyshire, like Wynetts Pass outside Castleton.

Author:	Mr Russell [ Mon Oct 30, 2017 10:31 ]
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Findus Fop wrote: Zardoz wrote: I watched The Princess Bride for the first time last night. Was the perfect film to round off a busy weekend with the family. I too watched this for the first time today. It was a very pleasant way to spend a couple of hungover hours with Mini Fop. I hadn't realised what a star-studded affair it is. It was Mini Fop's first exposure to Peter Cook and she seems to be a fan. Will get some Derek and Clive for her 6th birthday. Also, I had always thought the spanish sword fighter was played by Timothy Dalton. Because he looks like Timothy Dalton. I certainly wasn't expecting him to be played by SAUL FUCKING BERRENSON. I felt mighty confused for some time about that. I think I might still be. Was also surprised to see lots of familiar scenery, with many of the countryside scenes being filmed in places I spent a lot of time as a kid in Derbyshire, like Wynetts Pass outside Castleton. Don't forget Christopher Guest, Billy Crystal, Carol Kane, Andre The Giant, Robin Wright, Columbo, Kevin from The Wonder Years, Mel Smith, and Cary Elwes!!

Author:	DavPaz [ Mon Oct 30, 2017 10:49 ]
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Findus Fop wrote: Wynetts Pass chuckles

Author:	Findus Fop [ Mon Oct 30, 2017 14:54 ]
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DavPaz wrote: Findus Fop wrote: Wynetts Pass chuckles traffic can be horrific up there, it gets terribly snarled up.

Author:	DavPaz [ Mon Oct 30, 2017 15:19 ]
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Findus Fop wrote: DavPaz wrote: Findus Fop wrote: Wynetts Pass chuckles traffic can be horrific up there, it gets terribly snarled up. You should klingon to a positive. Like the views.

Author:	Pundabaya [ Mon Oct 30, 2017 18:48 ]
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Thor 3 is really good. Ace music, too. Not just the licensed tunes, but the soundtrack as well. Dude from Devo isn't it? Lovely synth.

Author:	devilman [ Wed Nov 01, 2017 22:37 ]
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'Killer App' was added to Netflix today. I managed 8 minutes before turning it off.

Author:	Bamba [ Wed Nov 01, 2017 22:46 ]
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I watched The Girl With All The Gifts last night and really, really enjoyed it. It's ostensibly a post-apocalyptic zombie film but it's done with a slant I doubt you'll have seen before and a surprising amount of time goes by before they even bother explaining that's what's going on (which I mean as a compliment). Atmospheric as all shit and brilliant performances throughout, not least from the titular 'girl' who's fucking incredible despite being only about 12 when it was filmed. The rest of the main cast is Glenn Close, Paddy Considene and Gemma Arterton if you need that further hook. Very good stuff indeed.

Author:	Satsuma [ Wed Nov 01, 2017 23:15 ]
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Bamba wrote: I watched The Girl With All The Gifts last night and really, really enjoyed it. It's ostensibly a post-apocalyptic zombie film but it's done with a slant I doubt you'll have seen before ... ... unless you’ve played The Last of Us.

Author:	Bamba [ Wed Nov 01, 2017 23:24 ]
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Satsuma wrote: Bamba wrote: I watched The Girl With All The Gifts last night and really, really enjoyed it. It's ostensibly a post-apocalyptic zombie film but it's done with a slant I doubt you'll have seen before ... ... unless you’ve played The Last of Us. Yeah, sure, it has similarities with TLOU that it doesn't share with most zombie flicks. I still think it's unique though given that ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view! Ellie isn't actually a 'zombie' whereas Melanie being explicitly on that side of the fence from the outset is, to me, it's USP (especially when you consider the ending).