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When Alex and Rocky were chased upstairs and into the bedroom by the dog (with the blind guy following) they quickly barricaded the door with the wardrobe, and then did an appraisal of all the windows in the room, establishing that all of them had fixed bars on the outside so weren't a possible escape route. Rocky then started climbing through the air vent in the room as the door was battered down by the blind dude and the dog ran in. In the scuffle that followed Alex fell against and then out of a window and onto the kitchen roof below.

How did he fall straight through the window if all of them were barred?

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I'm not 100% sure about this, but when you see them visually sweeping the room just after they enter the window that Rocky looks at is shown to definitely be barred but, I think, the one Alex looks at is just completely opaque with dirt so he assumed it's barred when apparently it wasn't. I think. It's still a bit of a cop-out mind.

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We never get any idea whatsoever as to what 'it' is, which apparently is supposed to be the idea but I thought it kind of sucked. Normally in these films there's an explanation of what's going on, or the protagonists visit an old lady in a house somewhere and she recalls some story or something, but it's not answered at all. Or at the very least they find a book in a chest somewhere that's got ancient pictures in it.

And the film doesn't stick to its own rules either, so for the most part the 'it' just plods slowly towards the target, but gets aggressive at close quarters, but then by the end it's strategising and throwing things because it doesn't want to get in the pool (?) but then when it's knocked in the pool it gets on fine and meh meh meh.

And why didn't she just have sex with the nerdy guy who well fancied her earlier on? That'd be a dead easy way to have a better chance of beating it as then he'd be able to see it too, rather than having to ask where it is and shooting his friends by accident instead.

Cheesy ending too. Sequel much?

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the whole pool thing was thought to be a valid idea

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The film starts with yet another ship in deep space that gets a “tempting message from a planet” that causes them to deviate from their mission to investigate. Seen this a few times in the Alien franchise.

Upon arrival, the crew is attacked and thinned out by what can best be described as MK1 Aliens, smaller and grey. Then they are rescued by a mysterious character who takes them to a large building in the middle of a huge open circular area,

The circular area is covered in dead aliens and people all of which look burnt, it then transpires that the rescuer is none other than David the robot from Prometheus.
From a short flash-back we discover that after the events of Prometheus, David and Elizabeth Shaw made it to the creator’s plant which is the same place the Covenant crew have arrived on. Upon arrival David releases the pathogen and wipes out the creators and release the Aliens all over the planet.

Then we discover that David has lost the plot (again see the old mad robot issues before) and wants to stop mankind expanding into the stars, he has magically developed and changed the creator’s pathogen to produce the Aliens we know from the other films, he kills Elizabeth Shaw during the process.

Then we have the old face hugger scene which produces an Alien that gets onto the escape craft as they are leaving and is dispatched, at the same time there is a fight between David and the more up to date and nicer robot Walter. Walter makes it onto the escape craft and back to the ship.

Back on the main ship and more original scripting to enjoy, shock horror another Alien has made it on board via an infected crew member, in a stunning original move they fire it out of the airlock!

At the end, everyone is OK and Walter is putting the crew back into hibernation, just as he puts the captain to sleep she asks him some questions and realises too late that it’s not Walter but David who made it back. The film ends with David putting some Alien embryos into the ships storage that holds 100’s of human ones

Author:	Grim... [ Fri Jul 28, 2017 9:35 ]
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And John Ritter, of "being funny" fame. Also RIP.

Author:	Zardoz [ Fri Jul 28, 2017 9:46 ]
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Mimi wrote: Zardoz wrote: I've never seen the original. Noooo! But it has Tim Curry, John Boy Walton and Jonathan Brandis (RIP) of Seaquest DSV and Neverending Story II WAIT! I could always... watch it. Then I'd be cured! (I only watched The Exorcist last year)

Author:	devilman [ Fri Jul 28, 2017 9:50 ]
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Zardoz wrote: (I only watched The Exorcist last year) I should probably watch that myself sometime. (Not watch you watching it, I did that last year)

Author:	myp [ Fri Jul 28, 2017 10:08 ]
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Mimi wrote: Zardoz wrote: I've never seen the original. Noooo! But it has Tim Curry, John Boy Walton and Jonathan Brandis (RIP) of Seaquest DSV and Neverending Story II Absolute rubbish compared with the book, from what I remember.

Author:	Zardoz [ Fri Jul 28, 2017 10:11 ]
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The book is rubbish compared to Steven King's thoughts, from what I remember.

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Author:	MaliA [ Fri Jul 28, 2017 10:17 ]
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Lonewolves wrote: Mimi wrote: Zardoz wrote: I've never seen the original. Noooo! But it has Tim Curry, John Boy Walton and Jonathan Brandis (RIP) of Seaquest DSV and Neverending Story II Absolute rubbish compared with the book, from what I remember. Is that the one that ends with the 12 year old girl getting gangbanged?

Author:	MrChris [ Fri Jul 28, 2017 10:18 ]
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MaliA wrote: Lonewolves wrote: Mimi wrote: Zardoz wrote: I've never seen the original. Noooo! But it has Tim Curry, John Boy Walton and Jonathan Brandis (RIP) of Seaquest DSV and Neverending Story II Absolute rubbish compared with the book, from what I remember. Is that the one that ends with the 12 year old girl getting gangbanged? Yes. It's... not good.

Author:	Hearthly [ Fri Jul 28, 2017 10:51 ]
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By his own admission Stephen King was routinely out of his fucking tree on drugs and alcohol when he wrote a lot of his books. IIRC he said of Pet Sematary he was amazed it got published because it so was brutally nasty and out there.

Author:	Zardoz [ Fri Jul 28, 2017 11:05 ]
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Is that a huge spoiler?

Author:	MaliA [ Fri Jul 28, 2017 11:10 ]
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Zardoz wrote: Is that a huge spoiler? It's 31 years old! Soz. Probably not.

Author:	myp [ Fri Jul 28, 2017 12:14 ]
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MaliA wrote: Lonewolves wrote: Mimi wrote: Zardoz wrote: I've never seen the original. Noooo! But it has Tim Curry, John Boy Walton and Jonathan Brandis (RIP) of Seaquest DSV and Neverending Story II Absolute rubbish compared with the book, from what I remember. Is that the one that ends with the 12 year old girl getting gangbanged? I was 12 when I read it so didn't think of it much, but yeah, that doesn't sound great now.

Author:	LewieP [ Sun Jul 30, 2017 8:54 ]
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The new movie is written by Cary Fukanaga, director of season one of true detective, he was supposed to direct it to, but for some reason they owe parted ways.

Author:	krazywookie [ Sun Jul 30, 2017 10:00 ]
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Watched the island last night, don't remember ever seeing anything about it, must have completely passed me by. Twas surprisingly good eh?

Author:	Grim... [ Sun Jul 30, 2017 10:33 ]
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Is that the one with Ewan McGregor?

Author:	Satsuma [ Sun Jul 30, 2017 21:45 ]
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I've watched some filums: It Stains The Sand Red, was first. A dark comedy about a woman chased across a desert pursued by a solitary zombie. It's quite fun but isn't going to set the world on fire. The last 15 minutes are piss pants poor but if you turn it off then you'll think it was pretty good. Then The Legend of Tarzan. For once I would like to watch a film that Samuel L Jackson is not shoehorned into. He's entirely disposable and I'm not sure what his role is outside of getting Tarzan to go to the jungle in the first 5 minutes. Anyway, as you can probably expect from watching a trailer it's just a fucking disposable CGI-fest with little redeeming quality. Tarzan doesn't even use his Tarzan powers until the last 10 minutes. Tch. And Jane is a fucking irritating character who I thought was played by the slaggy woman out of My Name is Earl, but isn't. You'll swear it's her though and wonder why she's not shagging everything and effing and blinding. It was quite distracting. So there you go, one alright film and one trash.

Author:	Bamba [ Mon Jul 31, 2017 9:31 ]
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I watched Don't Breathe last night and fucking hell, it's brutal and tense as shit. Three young burglars break into the house of a blind army vet for the cash he's hoarding thinking it'll be an easy score and within minutes it goes totally fucking tits up. It just doesn't let up from start to finish and is endlessly inventive in the ways it drops the terrified robbers into fucked up situations just when you think they're finally free and clear. Very good stuff.

Author:	Bamba [ Mon Aug 07, 2017 9:54 ]
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Valerian and the City of a Thousand Planets is absolute dogshit; legit one of the worst movies I've ever seen. Let me list some of the ways: The dialogue is properly jaw-dropping in it's awfulness. Like I was honestly struggling to believe that such clunky trite bullshit had actually made it all the way to an actual cinema screen. The central relationship between Valerian and Laureline flat-out doesn't work. You're supposed to believe that throughout the course of the film Valerian is winning Laureline over but there's just no evidence of that in the film and the moment that's obviously supposed to be pivotal to their relationship was just cringey to watch (and didn't make any sense given what the film had spent ages teaching you about Valerian's character). Cara Delivingne flat out isn't a good enough actress to carry a part that size. I mean I genuinely like her, and her slightly oddball schtick almost worked in a couple of places, but a lot of the time she stood out as just not having the acting chops of the people surrounding her. The exposition, oh God the fucking exposition. Delivered in massive bloated chunks by random characters at multiple places throughout the film because fuck story-telling right? Almost everything about the film that's not covered by the above is just generally trite cliched bullshit. The opening mission section had some nice ideas but delivered in a messy confusing way that certainly didn't make the most of them. The plot was just one big fucking hole and I don't have the energy to dissect it properly. But it's balls, be assured of that.

Author:	DavPaz [ Mon Aug 07, 2017 10:14 ]
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Ah, but it is French! C'est oddball, no?

Author:	krazywookie [ Sun Jul 30, 2017 12:22 ]
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Grim... wrote: Is that the one with Ewan McGregor? Aye, the 2ewan scenes were a bit jarring and immersion damaging but the film wasn't that intense anyway so I didn't mind. One bit was were his character sees a motorcycle for the first time and Ewan turns to camera and says I don't know what that was, but I want one patented MacGregor smile with tooth glint. Too cheesy for me that bit but otherwise good fun.

Author:	krazywookie [ Sun Jul 30, 2017 12:24 ]
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Fuck fuck fuck can't spoiler on phone aaaaaaargh

Author:	Mimi [ Sun Jul 30, 2017 16:23 ]
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krazywookie wrote: Fuck fuck fuck can't spoiler on phone aaaaaaargh [spoiler] [I think they are in the BBC Cod button bit/spoiler]

Author:	krazywookie [ Sun Jul 30, 2017 17:27 ]
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Mimi wrote: Mimi wrote: krazywookie wrote: Fuck fuck fuck can't spoiler on phone aaaaaaargh [spoiler] [I think they are in the BBC Cod button bit/spoiler] LOL. Well, quite.

Author:	Curiosity [ Sun Jul 30, 2017 18:58 ]
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I am still grumpy about The Island being made, because they ripped large chunks of it from 'Spares', which is an excellent book, and made it into a far less good film than they would have done had they just filmed a movie of 'Spares'.

Author:	DavPaz [ Sun Jul 30, 2017 20:20 ]
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And they reused a load of special effects shots from The Island in the first Transformers movie

Author:	Grim... [ Sun Jul 30, 2017 21:08 ]
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Hmm, no, that's not the film I was thinking of. It was a secret island and some guy gave him a map to the place while he was travelling.

Author:	devilman [ Sun Jul 30, 2017 21:37 ]
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Watched 'The Illusionist' yesterday. Wasn't bad, but felt like a more predictable 'Prestige'. Was a bit too long too, but I find that with most films these days.

Author:	Malc [ Sun Jul 30, 2017 22:15 ]
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Grim... wrote: Hmm, no, that's not the film I was thinking of. It was a secret island and some guy gave him a map to the place while he was travelling. The Beach?

Author:	Grim... [ Sun Jul 30, 2017 22:29 ]
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Yes! It appears I meant DiCaprio.

Author:	KovacsC [ Sun Jul 30, 2017 22:46 ]
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Baby Driver. Great sound track. Usual over the top car chases.

Author:	Hearthly [ Mon Jul 31, 2017 22:38 ]
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Bamba wrote: I watched Don't Breathe last night and fucking hell, it's brutal and tense as shit. Three young burglars break into the house of a blind army vet for the cash he's hoarding thinking it'll be an easy score and within minutes it goes totally fucking tits up. It just doesn't let up from start to finish and is endlessly inventive in the ways it drops the terrified robbers into fucked up situations just when you think they're finally free and clear. Very good stuff. Ooohhh splendid call, I liked the sound of it from your description so watched it as tonight's screentime entertainment. Everything you said, basically. It's very much a home invasion genre piece in a lot of ways but done with enough wit and invention, and a wicked sense of truly relentless peril, that you'll forgive it the elements of cliche. 835/1000 Just one thing though: ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view! When Alex and Rocky were chased upstairs and into the bedroom by the dog (with the blind guy following) they quickly barricaded the door with the wardrobe, and then did an appraisal of all the windows in the room, establishing that all of them had fixed bars on the outside so weren't a possible escape route. Rocky then started climbing through the air vent in the room as the door was battered down by the blind dude and the dog ran in. In the scuffle that followed Alex fell against and then out of a window and onto the kitchen roof below. How did he fall straight through the window if all of them were barred?

Author:	Bamba [ Tue Aug 01, 2017 9:47 ]
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Hearthly wrote: ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view! When Alex and Rocky were chased upstairs and into the bedroom by the dog (with the blind guy following) they quickly barricaded the door with the wardrobe, and then did an appraisal of all the windows in the room, establishing that all of them had fixed bars on the outside so weren't a possible escape route. Rocky then started climbing through the air vent in the room as the door was battered down by the blind dude and the dog ran in. In the scuffle that followed Alex fell against and then out of a window and onto the kitchen roof below. How did he fall straight through the window if all of them were barred? Glad you enjoyed it. I wanted to see it at the cinema back when it was out but it didn't have a massive release so I never caught it and was looking forward to see it at home. Not least because Jane Levy: Attachment: cYQdhRK.jpg ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view! I'm not 100% sure about this, but when you see them visually sweeping the room just after they enter the window that Rocky looks at is shown to definitely be barred but, I think, the one Alex looks at is just completely opaque with dirt so he assumed it's barred when apparently it wasn't. I think. It's still a bit of a cop-out mind.

Author:	Hearthly [ Tue Aug 01, 2017 22:54 ]
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IT FOLLOWS has arrived on Netflix so I watched it as there's been quite a lot of fuss about it. I thought it was good, but not great, proper 7/10 territory, or rather, 704/1000 territory. I'll spoiler my issues with it. ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view! We never get any idea whatsoever as to what 'it' is, which apparently is supposed to be the idea but I thought it kind of sucked. Normally in these films there's an explanation of what's going on, or the protagonists visit an old lady in a house somewhere and she recalls some story or something, but it's not answered at all. Or at the very least they find a book in a chest somewhere that's got ancient pictures in it. And the film doesn't stick to its own rules either, so for the most part the 'it' just plods slowly towards the target, but gets aggressive at close quarters, but then by the end it's strategising and throwing things because it doesn't want to get in the pool (?) but then when it's knocked in the pool it gets on fine and meh meh meh. And why didn't she just have sex with the nerdy guy who well fancied her earlier on? That'd be a dead easy way to have a better chance of beating it as then he'd be able to see it too, rather than having to ask where it is and shooting his friends by accident instead. Cheesy ending too. Sequel much? It was a good film and when it was creepy, it was effectively creepy, but I had this constant nagging sense it torpedoed itself more than once and clutched 'good' from the jaws of 'great'. 703/1000 I've knocked a point off since before.

Author:	devilman [ Tue Aug 01, 2017 23:20 ]
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I watched that yesterday too and I had much the same gripes with it. I think I nodded off at one point so I wasn't sure why ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view! the whole pool thing was thought to be a valid idea

Author:	Grim... [ Thu Aug 03, 2017 22:33 ]
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Wonder Woman is pretty boring. It's very impressive that she can stop a bullet with her wrists and such, but must we see it a thousand times?

Author:	asfish [ Sun Aug 06, 2017 8:09 ]
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Got around to watching Alien Covenant last night. Words fail me, the most disappointing Alien film to date and that's saying something

Author:	LewieP [ Sun Aug 06, 2017 11:23 ]
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asfish wrote: Got around to watching Alien Covenant last night. Words fail me, the most disappointing Alien film to date and that's saying something Yeah it was very bad. Felt like it could have been an interesting movie if it just focuses on the "two AI/Robots with conflicting ideologies" theme, but it shouldn't have been an Alien movie.

Author:	Mimi [ Mon Aug 07, 2017 10:18 ]
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Bamba wrote: Valerian and the City of a Thousand Planets is absolute dogshit; legit one of the worst movies I've ever seen. Let me list some of the ways: The dialogue is properly jaw-dropping in it's awfulness. Like I was honestly struggling to believe that such clunky trite bullshit had actually made it all the way to an actual cinema screen. The central relationship between Valerian and Laureline flat-out doesn't work. You're supposed to believe that throughout the course of the film Valerian is winning Laureline over but there's just no evidence of that in the film and the moment that's obviously supposed to be pivotal to their relationship was just cringey to watch (and didn't make any sense given what the film had spent ages teaching you about Valerian's character). Cara Delivingne flat out isn't a good enough actress to carry a part that size. I mean I genuinely like her, and her slightly oddball schtick almost worked in a couple of places, but a lot of the time she stood out as just not having the acting chops of the people surrounding her. The exposition, oh God the fucking exposition. Delivered in massive bloated chunks by random characters at multiple places throughout the film because fuck story-telling right? Almost everything about the film that's not covered by the above is just generally trite cliched bullshit. The opening mission section had some nice ideas but delivered in a messy confusing way that certainly didn't make the most of them. The plot was just one big fucking hole and I don't have the energy to dissect it properly. But it's balls, be assured of that. Without a banana rating I can't work out if you like it or not.

Author:	asfish [ Mon Aug 07, 2017 10:23 ]
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LewieP wrote: asfish wrote: Got around to watching Alien Covenant last night. Words fail me, the most disappointing Alien film to date and that's saying something Yeah it was very bad. Felt like it could have been an interesting movie if it just focuses on the "two AI/Robots with conflicting ideologies" theme, but it shouldn't have been an Alien movie. Plot was so bad, nothing of interest covered and nothing original ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view! The film starts with yet another ship in deep space that gets a “tempting message from a planet” that causes them to deviate from their mission to investigate. Seen this a few times in the Alien franchise. Upon arrival, the crew is attacked and thinned out by what can best be described as MK1 Aliens, smaller and grey. Then they are rescued by a mysterious character who takes them to a large building in the middle of a huge open circular area, The circular area is covered in dead aliens and people all of which look burnt, it then transpires that the rescuer is none other than David the robot from Prometheus. From a short flash-back we discover that after the events of Prometheus, David and Elizabeth Shaw made it to the creator’s plant which is the same place the Covenant crew have arrived on. Upon arrival David releases the pathogen and wipes out the creators and release the Aliens all over the planet. Then we discover that David has lost the plot (again see the old mad robot issues before) and wants to stop mankind expanding into the stars, he has magically developed and changed the creator’s pathogen to produce the Aliens we know from the other films, he kills Elizabeth Shaw during the process. Then we have the old face hugger scene which produces an Alien that gets onto the escape craft as they are leaving and is dispatched, at the same time there is a fight between David and the more up to date and nicer robot Walter. Walter makes it onto the escape craft and back to the ship. Back on the main ship and more original scripting to enjoy, shock horror another Alien has made it on board via an infected crew member, in a stunning original move they fire it out of the airlock! At the end, everyone is OK and Walter is putting the crew back into hibernation, just as he puts the captain to sleep she asks him some questions and realises too late that it’s not Walter but David who made it back. The film ends with David putting some Alien embryos into the ships storage that holds 100’s of human ones