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Author:  Grim... [ Wed Nov 15, 2017 16:12 ]
Post subject:  Re: Star Trek

Voyager is the best one.

Giphy "determined":
https://media0.giphy.com/media/3oz8xXJZXzv3nBnvzi/giphy-loop.mp4

Author:  Goddess Jasmine [ Wed Nov 15, 2017 20:35 ]
Post subject:  Re: Star Trek

Grim... wrote:
Voyager is the best one.

Giphy "determined":
https://media1.giphy.com/media/3ov9jNjrhhhSuYZtLi/giphy-loop.mp4

:this:

Author:  Dr Zoidberg [ Wed Nov 15, 2017 21:07 ]
Post subject:  Re: Star Trek

Are well all forgetting The Animated Series?
Oddly, despite being a huge Trek fan I don't think I've ever watched it!

Author:  DavPaz [ Thu Nov 16, 2017 7:20 ]
Post subject:  Re: Star Trek

Dr Zoidberg wrote:
Are well all forgetting The Animated Series?
Oddly, despite being a huge Trek fan I don't think I've ever watched it!

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Author:  Grim... [ Wed Nov 22, 2017 20:04 ]
Post subject:  Re: Star Trek

Discovery is pretty good, I think.

It could do with some more space pew pew but I understand that's expensive.

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Wed Nov 22, 2017 20:08 ]
Post subject:  Re: Star Trek

I'm three into Discovery and I'm really enjoying it. It's miles from the Trek formula - and better for it, I think. I have no idea where it's going.

Author:  myp [ Wed Nov 22, 2017 20:20 ]
Post subject:  Re: Star Trek

It's awesome apart from the first two episodes and one other near the end, which are merely ok.

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Wed Nov 22, 2017 20:33 ]
Post subject:  Re: Star Trek

Yes, the first two were clearly scene-setting and a bit self-conciously plodding as a result. But the payoff in the third was worth the wait.

Author:  Mr Dave [ Wed Nov 22, 2017 23:17 ]
Post subject:  Re: Star Trek

I think my main problem with it was klingons speaking in klingon. Because it made me want to rip my ears off.

Author:  Curiosity [ Wed Jan 10, 2018 15:17 ]
Post subject:  Re: Star Trek

I have watched 8 episodes of this now, which means I am nearly caught up.

I very much enjoyed episode 7, which features a character from an earlier episode.

My wife and I did both come to the conclusion that the episode was slightly weird because said character looked really quite like me.

Author:  myp [ Wed Jan 10, 2018 15:42 ]
Post subject:  Re: Star Trek

Hahaha! And him from the Office is like you ten years ago.

Author:  myp [ Wed Jan 10, 2018 15:43 ]
Post subject:  Re: Star Trek

I'm absolutely loving this show. It's just getting better and better. Can't wait for next week's!

Author:  Bamba [ Wed Jan 10, 2018 15:50 ]
Post subject:  Re: Star Trek

Lonewolves wrote:
I'm absolutely loving this show. It's just getting better and better. Can't wait for next week's!


The most recent episode was pretty special and nice reversal of the usual image of Starfleet. Those torture chamber things were genuinely fucking horrifying.

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Wed Jan 10, 2018 15:51 ]
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Bamba wrote:
The most recent episode was pretty special and nice reversal of the usual image of Starfleet. Those torture chamber things were genuinely fucking horrifying.

Uhhh, you know the Mirror Universe dates back to TOS right?

Author:  myp [ Wed Jan 10, 2018 15:53 ]
Post subject:  Re: Star Trek

Bamba wrote:
Lonewolves wrote:
I'm absolutely loving this show. It's just getting better and better. Can't wait for next week's!


The most recent episode was pretty special and nice reversal of the usual image of Starfleet. Those torture chamber things were genuinely fucking horrifying.

ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view!
The Terran Empire in a mirror world has existed since TOS so it wasn't that much of a surprise to me, but I loved what they did with it.

Author:  myp [ Wed Jan 10, 2018 15:53 ]
Post subject:  Re: Star Trek

Spoilers Rich.

Author:  Bamba [ Wed Jan 10, 2018 16:15 ]
Post subject:  Re: Star Trek

Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
Bamba wrote:
The most recent episode was pretty special and nice reversal of the usual image of Starfleet. Those torture chamber things were genuinely fucking horrifying.

Uhhh, you know the Mirror Universe dates back to TOS right?


Well, obviously not, no.

Author:  Grim... [ Wed Jan 10, 2018 18:10 ]
Post subject:  Re: Star Trek

Well, I do now.

/glares

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Wed Jan 10, 2018 18:25 ]
Post subject:  Re: Star Trek

I mean.... if it’s a spoiler for this week’s Trek, people were already talking about it. And if it’s a spoiler for TOS, then fucking hell it aired in 1967. Statue of limitations.

Author:  DBSnappa [ Wed Jan 10, 2018 19:19 ]
Post subject:  Re: Star Trek

Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
I mean.... if it’s a spoiler for this week’s Trek, people were already talking about it. And if it’s a spoiler for TOS, then fucking hell it aired in 1967. Statue of limitations.


What, precisely, is a statue of limitations.

Author:  Squirt [ Wed Jan 10, 2018 19:20 ]
Post subject:  Re: Star Trek

Giphy "statue of limitations":
https://media3.giphy.com/media/611NBQcpt0hoY/giphy-loop.mp4

Author:  Cras [ Wed Jan 10, 2018 19:22 ]
Post subject:  Re: Star Trek

DBSnappa wrote:
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
I mean.... if it’s a spoiler for this week’s Trek, people were already talking about it. And if it’s a spoiler for TOS, then fucking hell it aired in 1967. Statue of limitations.


What, precisely, is a statue of limitations.

Author:  DBSnappa [ Wed Jan 10, 2018 19:24 ]
Post subject:  Re: Star Trek

Cras wrote:
DBSnappa wrote:
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
I mean.... if it’s a spoiler for this week’s Trek, people were already talking about it. And if it’s a spoiler for TOS, then fucking hell it aired in 1967. Statue of limitations.


What, precisely, is a statue of limitations.


:D

Author:  myp [ Wed Jan 10, 2018 21:23 ]
Post subject:  Re: Star Trek

Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
I mean.... if it’s a spoiler for this week’s Trek, people were already talking about it. And if it’s a spoiler for TOS, then fucking hell it aired in 1967. Statue of limitations.

Obviously about this episode. Bamba was deliberately vague about it, then you stomped in and spoiled it for everyone else. Worse than Garage, you are.

Author:  Grim... [ Wed Jan 10, 2018 21:24 ]
Post subject:  Re: Star Trek

I'm not going to watch out now.

Author:  Grim... [ Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:05 ]
Post subject:  Re: Star Trek

Directed by Riker? Okay, I'm in.

Author:  Mimi [ Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:33 ]
Post subject:  Re: Star Trek

DBSnappa wrote:
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
I mean.... if it’s a spoiler for this week’s Trek, people were already talking about it. And if it’s a spoiler for TOS, then fucking hell it aired in 1967. Statue of limitations.


What, precisely, is a statue of limitations.


It’s this.

Author:  Grim... [ Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:47 ]
Post subject:  Re: Star Trek

WTAF

Author:  KovacsC [ Tue Jan 23, 2018 13:28 ]
Post subject:  Re: Star Trek

I did not see that coming...

Author:  Trousers [ Tue Jan 23, 2018 13:31 ]
Post subject:  Re: Star Trek

Star Trek Discovery : "It's all kicking off now"
The next episode of Star Trek Discovery : "Hold my pint"

It's fucking brilliant.

Author:  KovacsC [ Tue Jan 23, 2018 13:33 ]
Post subject:  Re: Star Trek

Yes, might have to watch the last few episodes again...

Author:  LewieP [ Tue Jan 23, 2018 13:50 ]
Post subject:  Re: Star Trek

It's just a shame that all the twists have been so obviously telegraphed.

Author:  KovacsC [ Tue Jan 23, 2018 17:09 ]
Post subject:  Re: Star Trek

Have they?

Author:  LewieP [ Tue Jan 23, 2018 17:26 ]
Post subject:  Re: Star Trek

Yep.

In fact if you scroll back through this thread, you'll see I posted predictions about the major twists long ahead of them dropping.

Author:  Dr Zoidberg [ Tue Jan 23, 2018 18:35 ]
Post subject:  Re: Star Trek

I saw elsewhere what can only have been a total guess about Lorca pretty much as soon as he appeared on screen, that we now know to be correct.

Author:  Curiosity [ Sun Jan 28, 2018 1:11 ]
Post subject:  Re: Star Trek

This is super awesome. I am now caught up.

Author:  Grim... [ Sun Jan 28, 2018 15:27 ]
Post subject:  Re: Star Trek

I still dislike to opening theme music, and the design of the Discovery (especially the spinnging ring and silly flip move it does before jumping).

But it's a great show. Saru's makeup is excellent.

Author:  Mr Dave [ Sun Jan 28, 2018 16:52 ]
Post subject:  Re: Star Trek

Grim... wrote:
Saru's makeup is excellent.

He likes yours too.

Author:  KovacsC [ Sun Jan 28, 2018 23:39 ]
Post subject:  Re: Star Trek

Grim... wrote:
I still dislike to opening theme music, and the design of the Discovery (especially the spinnging ring and silly flip move it does before jumping).

But it's a great show. Saru's makeup is excellent.


The flip is a bit silly.

Author:  DBSnappa [ Mon Jan 29, 2018 8:05 ]
Post subject:  Re: Star Trek

KovacsC wrote:
Grim... wrote:
I still dislike to opening theme music, and the design of the Discovery (especially the spinnging ring and silly flip move it does before jumping).

But it's a great show. Saru's makeup is excellent.


The flip is a bit silly.


Now now. Don’t be flippant.

Author:  Curiosity [ Tue Jan 30, 2018 23:30 ]
Post subject:  Re: Star Trek

I like the flip.

Anyway, SPOILERS FOR THE MOST RECENT EPISODE:

ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view!
Cor blimey! So Lorca was a nasty piece of work. The way he killed Stammets was fucking hilarious though.

The one thing I didn’t really get into was Burnham’s attachment to Philippa. I mean, I know the original version was her mentor and all, but the Mirror universe one is literally worse than Hitler and has been the leader of a galaxy-wide mission of genocide and enslavement. Yet she’s all buddy buddy now? That’s some weird loyalty.

Anyway, lots of fun! Pew pew!

And oopsies at the ending.

2 more episodes to go to wrap it all up (or deposit them in a different universe).

Cracking stuff.

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Tue Jan 30, 2018 23:35 ]
Post subject:  Re: Star Trek

Something I am very much enjoying is: for all of the apparent predestination inherent in a show set ten years before TOS, I have no idea at all where this is going.

Author:  Cras [ Wed Jan 31, 2018 0:12 ]
Post subject:  Re: Star Trek

I like this a lot. However, I still get really pissed off that the federation ships are really very shit at fighting other ships in space. Like terrible.

And if, as stated often, they're intended to be science and exploration vessels, then maybe also have a navy, and hand over to them when war and shit happens.

Author:  Dr Lave [ Wed Jan 31, 2018 1:03 ]
Post subject:  Re: Star Trek

It's completely barmy and I'mr really enjoying.

Latest EP spoilers.

ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view!
I've been wondering all series about how it has abandoned the positivity and utopian idealism of trek (much like real life am i rite!>!>?!?) but was secretly hopeful that they were trying to 'earn' that positivity, to reintroduce it viewers.

But man that Saru speech to the bridge crew, that was proper old school positivity. Loved it.

Author:  Dr Lave [ Wed Jan 31, 2018 1:24 ]
Post subject:  Re: Star Trek

My prediction:

ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view!
In despair of losing they fall to dark side and the remnants of Star fleet start using M.Phillipa to defeat the Klingons much to Saru's disagreement (because Saru represents all that is good and proper). It begins to works BUT AT WHAT COST?

Then Clem Fandango starts to show that he has overcome the weirdness of his creation and actually klingons aren't all bad. This makes them see the error of their ways and embrace full TREK UTOPIA. Saru REFUSES to accept ANY costs. TEAMWORK happens. M.Phillipa exposed to GOODNESS but aint having none of it.

Eventually they jump back in time to the start of the series to undo what first went wrong. Some plan involving Voq (Yes, I can hear you) and that. It GOES WRONG.

But wait M.Phillipa see's good in the world. Proves we can change and Han Solo's it, switching places with P.Phillipa in a NOBEL sacrifice.

Michael prevents war/reduces it to a skirmish and is never a criminal. RESET button pressed.

Then twist ending they jump to the future. Double plus if they meet an old picard.

Author:  BikNorton [ Wed Jan 31, 2018 5:45 ]
Post subject:  Re: Star Trek

Maybe they'll finally explain what happened to the Klingon genome! Ref Trials and Tribbalations.

Perhaps its related to the massive touchscreens and muted colours being replaced by clunky switches and reds and golds.

One of these days they need to remake TOS to avoid the dissonance. But then they'll have to make Trials and Tribbalations not have happened. HM.

Author:  Mr Dave [ Wed Jan 31, 2018 6:22 ]
Post subject:  Re: Star Trek

BikNorton wrote:
Maybe they'll finally explain what happened to the Klingon genome! Ref Trials and Tribbalations.

They already have.

Author:  Trousers [ Wed Jan 31, 2018 9:30 ]
Post subject:  Re: Star Trek

Interesting chat with Lorca here.

Contains spoilers for episode 13

As an aside Jason Isaacs is a good follow on Twitter, certainly doesn't hold back when people tell him he shouldn't have opinions about shit because he's in Star Trek.

Author:  Curiosity [ Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:11 ]
Post subject:  Re: Star Trek

Interesting predictions, Lave!

Author:  Grim... [ Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:21 ]
Post subject:  Re: Star Trek

BikNorton wrote:
Perhaps its related to the massive touchscreens and muted colours being replaced by clunky switches and reds and golds.

One of these days they need to remake TOS to avoid the dissonance.

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