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Author: | Grim... [ Fri Sep 15, 2017 10:48 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Star Trek |
The lack of depth in the first Star Trek reboot film was quite a shock after the deep intellectual stuff in Star Trek Nemesis. Oh no, wait, the other thing. And aslo I suspect you're forgetting just how dire the Star Trek: The Motion Picture was. (Holy shit, is that Tom Hardy in Nemesis? It is!) |
Author: | Satsuma [ Fri Sep 15, 2017 10:50 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Star Trek |
The reboot movies are so forgettable that I can only remember there being 2 of them and I've watched all 3. |
Author: | Cavey [ Fri Sep 15, 2017 10:58 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Star Trek |
Grim... wrote: The lack of depth in the first Star Trek reboot film was quite a shock after the deep intellectual stuff in Star Trek Nemesis. Oh no, wait, the other thing. And aslo I suspect you're forgetting just how dire the Star Trek: The Motion Picture was. (Holy shit, is that Tom Hardy in Nemesis? It is!) Actually, I reckon Star Trek: The Motion Picture was nowhere near as bad as people make it out to be (IMO); it had a good, genuine Trek storyline to it and at least it took itself seriously, unlike this fluffy kid-fodder. I'm not saying it was great or anything, but not a bad first attempt (and you know, it's really, really old, 1970s stuff). Star Trek Nemesis was indeed shit (but STILL not as bad as Darkness), but the original crew were pretty fucking ancient by then. You don't judge an entire film franchise by the last really shit one of the series though, man. |
Author: | Cavey [ Fri Sep 15, 2017 11:00 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Star Trek |
Satsuma wrote: The reboot movies are so forgettable that I can only remember there being 2 of them and I've watched all 3. Exactly. I had to remind myself too; 2 and 3 just merge into one pool of absolute shitness and disappointment in my recollection. I give them a cumulative score of 004.2 out of 1000 |
Author: | LewieP [ Fri Sep 15, 2017 11:00 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Star Trek |
Grim... wrote: The lack of depth in the first Star Trek reboot film was quite a shock after the deep intellectual stuff in Star Trek Nemesis. Oh no, wait, the other thing. And aslo I suspect you're forgetting just how dire the Star Trek: The Motion Picture was. (Holy shit, is that Tom Hardy in Nemesis? It is!) I don't think TMP is that bad, but I am mostly comparing 2009 to Trek as a whole. I didn't expect them to do a big flashy hollywood modern take on Trek without pushing the balance more towards pulpy than intellectual (and imo the best of Trek is when they've balanced both of those), but I didn't expect them to go quite so far in that direction, and drop the ball on so many (imo) crucial elements. If they do reboot TNG, Tom Hardy would be one of the better choices to play Picard. Along with Corey Stoll, Stanley Tucci, Mark Strong and obv Jason Statham. Edit: Or James McAvoy. Edit2: and it really is a shame that there was never a DS9 movie. I bet they could have done a great one. |
Author: | Trousers [ Fri Sep 15, 2017 11:34 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Star Trek |
For the extra nerdy among you Chaos on the Bridge is available on Netflix which tells the story of how TNG came together and how much of a lunatic Maurice Hurley, the showrunner for the first two seasons, was. It's pretty interesting and tells you a fair bit about the behind the scenes politics and what's involved getting something as iconic as Star Trek off the ground. |
Author: | Curiosity [ Fri Sep 15, 2017 11:38 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Star Trek |
Rebooting TNG would be sacrilege, but if they did, it'd have to be McAvoy to continue the trend. |
Author: | LewieP [ Fri Sep 15, 2017 11:47 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Star Trek |
Oscar Isaac as Riker. Rami Malek as Data. Brienne of Tarth as Tasha Yarr. Chris O'Dowd as O'Brian. John de Lancie would still play Q. |
Author: | Grim... [ Fri Sep 15, 2017 11:53 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Star Trek |
Cavey wrote: Star Trek Nemesis was indeed shit (but STILL not as bad as Darkness), but the original crew were pretty fucking ancient by then They weren't in it -it was the one where Picard meets his clone. Cavey wrote: You don't judge an entire film franchise by the last really shit one of the series though, man. I'm not. You're saying the Trek Reboot has dumbed the series down, I'm saying it's only as dumb as the one before it. |
Author: | Cavey [ Fri Sep 15, 2017 12:18 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Star Trek |
Grim... wrote: They weren't in it -it was the one where Picard meets his clone. Ah right, my bad - it's TNG (and yes, it's well shit). Well it was 15-odd years ago now and pretty fucking forgettable tbh. Quote: Cavey wrote: You don't judge an entire film franchise by the last really shit one of the series though, man. I'm not. You're saying the Trek Reboot has dumbed the series down, I'm saying it's only as dumb as the one before it. But that's a bit silly, really; it's clearly generally dumbed down relative to much of the rest of the material that preceded it, i.e. a whole bunch of films and TV. I'm not focusing/obsessing over one specific film/outrider, I'm looking at the big picture here (no pun intended). |
Author: | miki [ Thu Sep 21, 2017 14:55 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Star Trek |
because of netflix husband and I have now rewatched 7 seasons of TNG and 7 seasons of DS9, thanks for the tip Trousers I will find the documentary. |
Author: | myp [ Tue Oct 17, 2017 22:34 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Star Trek |
Dwight from the Office as Harry Mudd! |
Author: | asfish [ Wed Oct 18, 2017 20:55 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Star Trek |
What do people think of Star Trek Discovery then? I've really liked it so far, good plot and episodes look to follow each other a bit more unlike the other TV shows that that had a lot of self-contained ones. |
Author: | LewieP [ Wed Oct 18, 2017 22:51 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Star Trek |
Feels like it hasn't really settled into a formula yet but maybe that means it's not really going to. I think I like that. Interesting theory I heard: ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view! |
Author: | BikNorton [ Wed Oct 18, 2017 23:51 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Star Trek |
It's a load of old shit federation- and tech-wise, and so were the first couple of.episodes as a whole. It's got better. I think it helps they've got a Wash-a-like in. |
Author: | asfish [ Thu Oct 19, 2017 7:37 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Star Trek |
LewieP wrote: Feels like it hasn't really settled into a formula yet but maybe that means it's not really going to. I think I like that. Interesting theory I heard: ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view! That would make sense ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view! |
Author: | Curiosity [ Thu Oct 19, 2017 10:01 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Star Trek |
BikNorton wrote: It's a load of old shit federation- and tech-wise, and so were the first couple of.episodes as a whole. It's got better. I think it helps they've got a Wash-a-like in. I mean, he's uncannily Tudyk-esque. I have enjoyed all of the first four episodes. Will watch the next when I have a chance (and then read the spoilers). I also like Alien Niles Crane. But they're all doomed anyway, right? Or at least the major tech thing is. |
Author: | KovacsC [ Thu Oct 19, 2017 12:40 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Star Trek |
I think I will re-subscribe to netflix |
Author: | MaliA [ Thu Oct 19, 2017 23:33 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Star Trek |
I watched about half hour of the first episode. It wasn't great. Riverdale is better, bit has fewer asteroids. |
Author: | myp [ Fri Oct 20, 2017 7:26 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Star Trek |
MaliA wrote: I watched about half hour of the first episode. It wasn't great. Riverdale is better, bit has fewer asteroids. viewtopic.php?style=26&f=3&t=2098&p=966442&hilit=Star+trek#p966442 |
Author: | Curiosity [ Mon Oct 23, 2017 22:10 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Star Trek |
I am really, really enjoying this now. ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view! |
Author: | NervousPete [ Mon Oct 23, 2017 22:48 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Star Trek |
Cavey wrote: Grim... wrote: The lack of depth in the first Star Trek reboot film was quite a shock after the deep intellectual stuff in Star Trek Nemesis. Oh no, wait, the other thing. And aslo I suspect you're forgetting just how dire the Star Trek: The Motion Picture was. (Holy shit, is that Tom Hardy in Nemesis? It is!) Actually, I reckon Star Trek: The Motion Picture was nowhere near as bad as people make it out to be (IMO); it had a good, genuine Trek storyline to it and at least it took itself seriously, unlike this fluffy kid-fodder. I'm not saying it was great or anything, but not a bad first attempt (and you know, it's really, really old, 1970s stuff). Star Trek Nemesis was indeed shit (but STILL not as bad as Darkness), but the original crew were pretty fucking ancient by then. You don't judge an entire film franchise by the last really shit one of the series though, man. Shocking kinda agree with Cavey time again. The first Trek movie, even though relentlessly slow moving, has enough awe and spectacle about it to rescue the film. It feels pretty epic in a way. I also like how it's not about blowing stuff up, which is in keeping with the largely lovely original Trek movies. The (Slow) Motion Picture: Investigate dangerous new energy cloud. Discover it's a vast spaceship. Discover vast spaceship is a machine intelligence. Discover odd story of origin of particular machine intelligence and its goals. Reason with it and catalogue new life form. The Wrath of Khan: Neglect on the part of Captain Kirk results in the death of Khan's wife, who swears vengeance and steals Genesis, a device that can give life to a planet - and take it away. Kirk must face his own mortality, his relative innocence and the loss of his closest friend in a thrilling space-nautical adventure that has ensigns running about pulling gratings covers off torpedo tubes whilst James Horner swashbuckles the soundtrack, because Star Trek's DNA is Horatio Hornblower, friendo! A film where the exciting climax is simply trying to survive the dying hate of an already defeated enemy. The Search for Spock: Committing mutiny, Spock's friends steal a ship and head to Genesis to retrieve his body - all on the word of McCoy who has his spirit fused with his own. Spock endures a painful rebirth, Kirk loses his only son and the Enterprise to the Klingons and the Vulcan race is revealed to be stranger, magical and more powerful than their wry logic based society hitherto indicated. The film ends with all the friends reuniting, but with a sense of loss also. The Voyage Home: A giant probe approaches Earth and attempts a fearsome energy based communication with an extinct oceanic life form, gradually vaporising Earth's oceans and knocking out all power to electrical systems within the immediate Sol system. The band of contrite mutineers, on the way back to Earth in a captured Klingon Bird of Prey attempt time-travel back to early 80's San Francisco in an effort to retrieve a couple of humpback whales to resolve the problem. A gripping comedy adventure ensues as the crew encounter culture-shock, get in trouble with the US military, terrify a whaling crew, and seemingly break the neck of a impolite punk earning the applause of fellow passengers on the 20th century mass transit system. Everyone hugs at the end and Kirk gets his ship back. The Final Frontier: Terrible film but actually an excellent premise. "What would God want with a starship?" Tapping into fears of all the cults cropping up in the 80's, Star Trek V has a pretty strong story where Spock's brother, a charismatic cult leader with seemingly the power to take away pain, takes over the Enterprise and heads off to find God in unexplored territory. Kirk must find a way to win back his ship from the brainwashed crew, and stop whatever strange entity is behind it all. The Undiscovered Country: Praxis explodes and the Klingon empire has only twenty years left to live! A cataclysmic industrial catastrophe on a Klingon mining-moon wrecks their war economy and the system's ecology and forces a mass evacuation within Klingon space. Only the federation can help their warlike enemies and peace must be forged. Kirk, one of the great warriors of the Federation, is chosen as an ambassador, being a man the Klingons would grudgingly respect. Overtures of peace are sabotaged however as elements within the Federation and the Klingon Empire strike up their own secret alliance to ensure that the war goes on. A parable of Chernobyl and the breakup of the Soviet Union, Star Trek VI also finds time to fit in an Agatha Christie mystery and a prison-break movie. Star Trek - Nemesis: A villain vows revenge for past wrongs and builds a super-weapon to destroy Federation. Star Trek Reboot: A villain vows revenge for past wrongs and builds a super-weapon to destroy the Federation. Star Trek Into Darkness: A villain vows revenge for past wrongs and builds a super-ship to take over Federation. Star Trek Beyond: A villain vows revenge for past wrongs and works with an alien super weapon to destroy the Federation. Of the first three TNG movies, First Contact is obviously the best but sets up a worrying precedent for subsequent action-orientated Trek. Generations has some good ideas but is generally cringeworthy. I have a fondness for Insurrection as there's a good story at the heart of it, and some interesting 'needs of the many vs the few' conundrums and soul-searching. It's just ultimately let down by the blandness of colony they're trying to save, and a desperately rote conclusion. Nemesis is fucking awful and the worst Trek movie to date, even worse than Into Darkness, which is insultingly awful in a way that gradually reveals itself. I actually quite enjoyed Beyond, but it's part of the depressing conclusion to keep doing the same fucking plot again and again. Oh well, at least Star Wars keeps it fresh with new OH NO! |
Author: | LewieP [ Tue Oct 24, 2017 0:53 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Star Trek |
ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view! |
Author: | Mimi [ Wed Oct 25, 2017 7:44 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Star Trek |
MaliA wrote: I watched about half hour of the first episode. It wasn't great. Riverdale is better, bit has fewer asteroids. Riverdale is being released an episode per week. I’m not so interested that I can remember what happens week to week so I’m going to have to wait until they’ve all aired so I can watch them all at once. |
Author: | Pundabaya [ Wed Oct 25, 2017 8:48 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Star Trek |
LewieP wrote: ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Stamets Also, slightly unfortunate abbreviation for the new Star Trek series. Apt from the episode I saw. |
Author: | MaliA [ Wed Oct 25, 2017 8:53 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Star Trek |
Mimi wrote: MaliA wrote: I watched about half hour of the first episode. It wasn't great. Riverdale is better, bit has fewer asteroids. Riverdale is being released an episode per week. I’m not so interested that I can remember what happens week to week so I’m going to have to wait until they’ve all aired so I can watch them all at once. With Riverdale, the plot is incidental if it doesn't involve Cheryl. |
Author: | Trousers [ Wed Oct 25, 2017 8:55 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Star Trek |
We're 4 episodes into Discovery and really enjoying it so far. It seems to have remembered to have a sense of humour in the more recent episodes which stops it being too po-faced, which I thought it was going to be at one point - especially those first scenes with all the exposition and forced humour. The Klingon woman reminds me so much of Camille in Red Dwarf I keep getting distracted by it. |
Author: | Curiosity [ Wed Oct 25, 2017 15:02 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Star Trek |
I got weirded out when they did swearing though. Didn't seem right. |
Author: | myp [ Wed Oct 25, 2017 16:18 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Star Trek |
Curiosity wrote: I got weirded out when they did swearing though. Didn't seem right. Another clue it's probably the mirror universe. |
Author: | Dr Zoidberg [ Wed Oct 25, 2017 18:12 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Star Trek |
Mimi wrote: MaliA wrote: I watched about half hour of the first episode. It wasn't great. Riverdale is better, bit has fewer asteroids. Riverdale is being released an episode per week. I’m not so interested that I can remember what happens week to week so I’m going to have to wait until they’ve all aired so I can watch them all at once. We're saving them up to be able to plow through quickly as well. |
Author: | KovacsC [ Fri Nov 03, 2017 21:50 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Star Trek |
Really enjoying this so far.. |
Author: | Dr Zoidberg [ Fri Nov 03, 2017 22:02 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Star Trek |
It’s great, and The Orville is proving to be a real treat too. It’s TNG with more humour. |
Author: | Nemmie [ Sat Nov 04, 2017 5:29 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Star Trek |
I bloody love The Orville. Also enjoying Star Trek. Expected one to be bad. Pleasantly surprised. |
Author: | LewieP [ Mon Nov 13, 2017 18:11 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Star Trek |
Great ending for the first run of episodes with the latest episode. ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view! |
Author: | KovacsC [ Wed Nov 15, 2017 11:42 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Star Trek |
Being off work for a bit, i thought i would catch up on the other Star Trek. Watched Voyager up to ep 2 of season 3. What order should you watch them in... Say Do you watch 'TNG' to season 5, then DS9 for a few, then Voyager. Or does it not really matter? Thanks |
Author: | Grim... [ Wed Nov 15, 2017 11:47 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Star Trek |
1 ENT Broken Bow 2 ENT Fight or Flight 3 ENT Strange New World 4 ENT Unexpected 5 ENT Terra Nova 6 ENT The Andorian Incident 7 ENT Breaking the Ice 8 ENT Civilization 9 ENT Fortunate Son 10 ENT Cold Front 11 ENT Silent Enemy 12 ENT Dear Doctor 13 ENT Sleeping Dogs 14 ENT Shadows of P'Jem 15 ENT Shuttlepod One 16 ENT Fusion 17 ENT Rogue Planet 18 ENT Acquisition 19 ENT Oasis 20 ENT Detained 21 ENT Vox Sola 22 ENT Fallen Hero 23 ENT Desert Crossing 24 ENT Two Days and Two Nights 25 ENT Shockwave, Part I 26 ENT Shockwave, Part II 27 ENT Carbon Creek 28 ENT Minefield 29 ENT Dead Stop 30 ENT A Night in Sickbay 31 ENT Marauders 32 ENT The Seventh 33 ENT The Communicator 34 ENT Singularity 35 ENT Vanishing Point 36 ENT Precious Cargo 37 ENT The Catwalk 38 ENT Dawn 39 ENT Stigma 40 ENT Cease Fire 41 ENT Future Tense 42 ENT Canamar 43 ENT The Crossing 44 ENT Judgment 45 ENT Horizon 46 ENT The Breach 47 ENT Cogenitor 48 ENT Regeneration 49 ENT First Flight 50 ENT Bounty 51 ENT The Expanse 52 ENT The Xindi 53 ENT Anomaly 54 ENT Extinction 55 ENT Rajiin 56 ENT Impulse 57 ENT Exile 58 ENT The Shipment 59 ENT Twilight 60 ENT North Star 61 ENT Similitude 62 ENT Carpenter Street 63 ENT Chosen Realm 64 ENT Proving Ground 65 ENT Stratagem 66 ENT Harbinger 67 ENT Doctor's Orders 68 ENT Hatchery 69 ENT Azati Prime 70 ENT Damage 71 ENT The Forgotten 72 ENT E² 73 ENT The Council 74 ENT Countdown 75 ENT Zero Hour 76 ENT Storm Front, Part I 77 ENT Storm Front, Part II 78 ENT Home 79 ENT Borderland (1) 80 ENT Cold Station 12 (2) 81 ENT The Augments (3) 82 ENT The Forge (1) 83 ENT Awakening (2) 84 ENT Kir'Shara (3) 85 ENT Daedalus 86 ENT Observer Effect 87 ENT Babel One (1) 88 ENT United (2) 89 ENT The Aenar (3) 90 ENT Affliction (1) 91 ENT Divergence (2) 92 ENT Bound 93 ENT Demons (1) 94 ENT Terra Prime (2) Possible placement for upcoming Star Trek: Discovery 95 TOS The Cage Updates to follow 96 TOS Where No Man Has Gone Before 97 TOS The Corbomite Maneuver 98 TOS Mudd's Women 99 TOS The Enemy Within 100 TOS The Man Trap 101 TOS The Naked Time 102 TOS Charlie X 103 TOS Balance of Terror 104 TOS What Are Little Girls Made Of? 105 TOS Dagger of the Mind 106 TOS Miri 107 TOS The Conscience of the King 108 TOS The Galileo Seven 109 TOS Court Martial 110 TOS The Menagerie (Part I) 111 TOS The Menagerie (Part II) 112 TOS Shore Leave 113 TOS The Squire of Gothos 114 TOS Arena 115 TOS The Alternative Factor 116 TOS Tomorrow is Yesterday 117 TOS The Return of the Archons 118 TOS A Taste of Armageddon 119 TOS Space Seed 120 TOS This Side of Paradise 121 TOS Devil in the Dark 122 TOS Errand of Mercy 123 TOS The City on the Edge of Forever 124 TOS Operation:Annihilate! 125 TOS Catspaw 126 TOS Metamorphosis 127 TOS Friday's Child 128 TOS Who Mourns for Adonais? 129 TOS Amok Time 130 TOS The Doomsday Machine 131 TOS Wolf in the Fold 132 TOS The Changeling 133 TOS The Apple 134 TOS Mirror, Mirror 135 TOS The Deadly Years 136 TOS I, Mudd 137 TOS The Trouble with Tribbles 138 TOS Bread and Circuses 139 TOS Journey to Babel 140 TOS A Private Little War 141 TOS The Gamesters of Triskelion 142 TOS Obsession 143 TOS The Immunity Syndrome 144 TOS A Piece of the Action 145 TOS By Any Other Name 146 TOS Return to Tomorrow 147 TOS Patterns of Force 149 TOS The Ultimate Computer 149 TOS The Omega Glory 150 TOS Assignment:Earth 151 TOS Spectre of the Gun 152 TOS Elaan of Troyius 153 TOS The Paradise Syndrome 154 TOS The Enterprise Incident 155 TOS And the Children Shall Lead 156 TOS Spock's Brain 157 TOS Is There No Truth in Beauty? 158 TOS The Empath 159 TOS The Tholian Web 160 ENT In a Mirror, Darkly, Part I 161 ENT In a Mirror, Darkly, Part II 162 TOS For the World Is Hollow and I Have Touched the Sky 163 TOS Day of the Dove 164 TOS Plato's Stepchildren 165 TOS Wink of An Eye 166 TOS That Which Survives 167 TOS Let That Be Your Last Battlefield 168 TOS Whom Gods Destroy 169 TOS The Mark of Gideon 170 TOS The Lights of Zetar 171 TOS The Cloud Minders 172 TOS The Way to Eden 173 TOS Requiem for Methuselah 174 TOS The Savage Curtain 175 TOS All Our Yesterdays 176 TOS Turnabout Intruder Animated Series inserts here if so desired 177 MOV Star Trek: The Motion Picture 178 MOV The Wrath of Kahn 179 MOV The Search for Spock 180 MOV The Voyage Home 181 MOV The Final Frontier 182 MOV The Undiscovered Country 183 TNG Encounter at Farpoint c 184 TNG The Naked Now 185 TNG Code of Honor 186 TNG The Last Outpost 187 TNG Where No One Has Gone Before 188 TNG Lonely Among Us 189 TNG Justice 190 TNG The Battle 191 TNG Hide and Q 192 TNG Haven 193 TNG The Big Goodbye 194 TNG Datalore 195 TNG Angel One 196 TNG 11001001 197 TNG Too Short a Season 198 TNG When The Bow Breaks 199 TNG Home Soil 200 TNG Coming of Age 201 TNG Heart of Glory 202 TNG The Aresenal of Freedom 203 TNG Symbiosis 204 TNG Skin of Evil 205 TNG We'll Always Have Paris 206 TNG Conspiracy 207 TNG The Neutral Zone 208 TNG The Child 209 TNG Where Silence Has Lease 210 TNG Elementary, Dear Data 211 TNG The Outrageous Okona 212 TNG Loud as a Whisper 213 TNG The Schizoid Man 214 TNG Unnatural Selection 215 TNG A Matter of Honor 216 TNG The Measure of a Man 217 TNG The Dauphin 218 TNG Contaigon 219 TNG The Royale 220 TNG Time Squared 221 TNG The Icarus Factor 222 TNG Pen Pals 223 TNG Q Who? 224 TNG The Samaritan Snare 225 TNG Up the Long Ladder 226 TNG Manhunt 227 TNG The Emissary 228 TNG Peak Performance 229 TNG Shades of Gray 230 TNG Evolution 231 TNG The Survivors 232 TNG The Ensigns of Command 233 TNG Who Watches the Watchers? 234 TNG The Bonding 235 TNG Booby Trap 236 TNG The Enemy 237 TNG The Price 238 TNG The Vengance Factor 239 TNG The Defector 240 TNG The Hunted 241 TNG A Matter of Perspective 242 TNG The High Ground 243 TNG Deja Q 244 TNG Yesterday's Enterprise 245 TNG The Offspring 246 TNG Sins of the Father 247 TNG Allegiance 248 TNG Captian's Holiday 249 TNG Tin Man 250 TNG Hollow Pursuits 251 TNG The Most Toys 252 TNG Sarek 253 TNG Menage a Troi 254 TNG Transfigurations 255 TNG The Best of Both Worlds, Part I 256 TNG The Best of Both Worlds, Part II 257 TNG Family 258 TNG Brothers 259 TNG Suddenly Human 260 TNG Remember Me 261 TNG Legacy 262 TNG Reunion 263 TNG Future Imperfect 264 TNG Final Mission 265 TNG The Loss 266 TNG Data's Day 267 TNG The Wounded 268 TNG Clues 269 TNG Devil's Due 270 TNG First Contact 271 TNG Galaxy's Child 272 TNG Night Terrors 273 TNG Identity Crisis 274 TNG The Nth Degree 275 TNG Qpid 276 TNG The Drumhead 277 TNG Half a Life 278 TNG The Host 279 TNG The Mind's Eye 280 TNG In Theory 281 TNG Redemption, Part I 282 TNG Redemption, Part II 283 TNG Darmok 284 TNG Ensign Ro 285 TNG Silicon Avatar 286 TNG Disaster 287 TNG The Game 288 TNG Unification, Part I c 289 TNG Unification, Part II c 290 TNG A Matter of Time 291 TNG New Ground 292 TNG Hero Worship 293 TNG Violations 294 TNG The Masterpiece Society 295 TNG Conundrum 296 TNG Power Play 297 TNG Ethics 298 TNG The Outcast 299 TNG Cause and Effect 300 TNG The First Duty 301 TNG Cost of Living 302 TNG The Perfect Mate 303 TNG Imaginary Friend 304 TNG I, Borg 305 TNG The Next Phase 306 TNG The Inner Light 307 TNG Time's Arrow, Part I 308 TNG Time's Arrow, Part II 309 TNG Realm of Fear 310 TNG Man of the People 311 TNG Relics c 312 TNG Schisms 313 TNG True-Q 314 TNG Rascals 315 TNG A Fistful of Datas 316 TNG The Quality of Life 317 TNG Chain of Command, Part I 318 TNG Chain of Command, Part II 319 DS9 Emissary c 320 DS9 Past Prologue 321 DS9 A Man Alone 322 DS9 Babel 323 TNG Ship in a Bottle 324 DS9 Captive Pursuit 325 TNG Aquiel 326 DS9 Q-Less 327 TNG Face of the Enemy 328 DS9 Dax 329 TNG Tapestry 330 DS9 The Passenger 331 TNG Birthright, Part I c 332 TNG Birthright, Part II 333 DS9 Move Along Home 334 DS9 The Nagus 335 TNG Starship Mine 336 TNG Lessons 337 DS9 Vortex 338 DS9 Battle Lines 339 DS9 The Storyteller 340 TNG The Chase 341 TNG Frame of Mind 342 TNG Suspicions 343 DS9 Progress 344 TNG Rightful Heir 345 DS9 If Wishes Were Horses 346 TNG Second Chances 347 DS9 Dramatis Personae 348 DS9 The Forsaken 349 DS9 Duet 350 TNG Timescape 351 DS9 In the Hands of the Prophets 352 TNG Descent, Part I 353 TNG Descent, Part II 354 DS9 The Homecomming (1) 355 DS9 The Circle (2) 356 DS9 The Siege (3) 357 TNG Liaisons 358 TNG Gambit, Part I 359 TNG Gambit, Part II 360 DS9 Cardassians 361 DS9 Invasive Procedures 362 TNG Interface 363 TNG Phantasms 364 DS9 Melora 365 TNG Dark Page 366 DS9 Rules of Acquisition 367 DS9 Necessary Evil 368 TNG Attached 369 TNG Force of Nature 370 DS9 Second Sight 371 DS9 Sactuary 372 TNG Parallels 373 DS9 Rivals 374 DS9 The Alternate 375 TNG Inheritance 376 TNG Homeward 377 TNG The Pegasus 378 ENT These Are the Voyages... c 379 DS9 Armageddon Game 380 TNG Sub Rosa 381 TNG Lower Decks 382 DS9 Paradise 383 DS9 Whispers 384 DS9 Shadowplay 385 TNG Thine Own Self 386 TNG Masks 387 DS9 Playing God 388 TNG Eye of the Beholder 389 DS9 Profit and Loss 390 TNG Genesis 391 DS9 Blood Oath 392 TNG Journey's End 393 DS9 The Maquis, Part I 394 DS9 The Maquis, Part II 395 TNG Firstborn c 396 TNG Bloodlines 397 DS9 The Wire 398 TNG Emergence 399 DS9 Crossover 400 TNG Preemptive Strike 401 DS9 The Collaborator 402 DS9 Tribunal 403 TNG All Good Things… 404 DS9 The Jem'Hadar 405 DS9 The Search, Part I 406 DS9 The Search, Part II 407 DS9 The House of Quark 408 DS9 Equilibrium 409 DS9 Second Skin 410 DS9 The Abandoned 411 DS9 Civil Defense 412 VOY Caretaker c 413 DS9 Meridian 414 VOY Parallax 415 DS9 Defiant c 416 DS9 Fascination 417 DS9 Past Tense, Part I 418 DS9 Past Tense, Part II 419 VOY Time and Again 420 DS9 Life Support 421 DS9 Heart of Stone 422 VOY Phage 423 DS9 Destiny 424 VOY The Cloud 425 DS9 Prophet Motive 426 VOY Eye of the Needle 427 DS9 Visionary 428 VOY Ex Post Facto 429 VOY Emanations 430 VOY Prime Factors 431 DS9 Distant Voices 432 MOV Generations c 433 VOY State of Flux 434 DS9 Through the Looking Glass c 435 VOY Heroes and Demons 436 DS9 Improbable Cause (1) 437 DS9 The Die is Cast (2) 438 VOY Cathexis 439 DS9 Explorers 440 VOY Faces 441 DS9 Family Business 442 VOY Jetrel 443 DS9 Shakaar 444 VOY Learning Curve 445 VOY Projections 446 DS9 Facets 447 DS9 The Adversary 448 VOY The 37's 449 VOY Initiations 450 VOY Elogium 451 VOY Non Sequitur 452 DS9 The Way of the Warrior (Part I, II) c 453 VOY Twisted 454 DS9 The Visitor 455 DS9 Hippocratic Oath 456 VOY Partutition 457 DS9 Indiscretion 458 VOY Persistence of Vision 459 VOY Tattoo 460 VOY Cold Fire 461 DS9 Rejoined 462 VOY Maneuvers 463 DS9 Starship Down 464 DS9 Little Green Men 465 DS9 The Sword of Kahless 466 VOY Resistance 467 DS9 Our Man Bashir 468 DS9 Homefront (1) 469 DS9 Paradise Lost (2) 470 VOY Prototype 471 VOY Death Wish c 472 VOY Alliances 473 DS9 Crossfire 474 VOY Threshold 475 DS9 Return to Grace 476 VOY Meld 477 VOY Dreadnought 478 VOY Lifesigns 479 VOY Investigations 480 VOY Deadlock 481 DS9 Sons of Mogh 482 DS9 Bar Association 483 DS9 Accession 484 VOY Innocence 485 DS9 Rules of Engagement 486 DS9 Hard Time 487 DS9 Shattered Mirror 488 VOY The Thaw 489 DS9 The Muse 490 VOY Tuvix 491 DS9 For the Cause 492 VOY Resolutions 493 DS9 To the Death 494 DS9 The Quickening 495 DS9 Body Parts 496 DS9 Broken Link 497 VOY The Basics, Part I 498 VOY The Basics, Part II 499 DS9 Apocalypse Rising 500 DS9 The Ship 501 VOY Sacred Ground 502 VOY False Profits 503 VOY Flashback c 504 VOY The Chute 505 VOY Remember 506 VOY The Swarm 507 DS9 Looking for par'Mach in All the Wrong Places 508 DS9 …Nor the Battle to the Strong 509 DS9 The Assignment 510 DS9 Trials and Tribble-ations c 511 VOY Future's End, Part I 512 VOY Future's End, Part II 513 DS9 Let He Who is Without Sin… 514 DS9 Things Past 515 VOY Warlord 516 DS9 The Ascent 517 VOY The Q and the Grey 518 DS9 Rapture 519 DS9 The Darkness and the Light 520 VOY Macrocosm 521 VOY Fair Trade 522 VOY Alter Ego 523 DS9 The Begotten 524 DS9 For the Uniform 525 VOY Coda 526 VOY Blood Fever 527 MOV First Contact c 528 DS9 In Purgatory's Shadow 529 DS9 By Inferno's Light 530 VOY Unity 531 VOY Darkling 532 DS9 Doctor Bashir, I Presume c 533 VOY Rise 534 DS9 A Simple Investigation 535 DS9 Business as Usual 536 DS9 Ties of Blood and Water 537 VOY Favorite Son 538 DS9 Ferengi Love Songs 539 DS9 Soldiers of the Empire 540 DS9 Children of Time 541 VOY Before and After 542 VOY Real Life 543 VOY Distant Origin 544 VOY Displaced 545 DS9 Blaze of Glory 546 VOY Worst Case Scenario 547 DS9 Empok Nor 548 VOY Scorpion, Part I 549 VOY Scorpion, Part II 550 VOY The Gift 551 DS9 In the Cards 552 DS9 Call to Arms 553 VOY Day of Honor 554 VOY Nemesis 555 VOY Revulsion 556 DS9 A Time to Stand 557 DS9 Rocks and Shoals 558 DS9 Sons and Daughters 559 DS9 Behind the Lines 560 DS9 Favor the Bold 561 DS9 Sacrifice of Angels 562 VOY The Raven 563 VOY Scientific Method 564 DS9 You are Cordially Invited… 565 VOY Year of Hell, Part I 566 VOY Year of Hell, Part II 567 DS9 Resurrection 568 VOY Random Thoughts 569 DS9 Statistical Probabilities 570 VOY Concerning Flight 571 DS9 The Magnificent Ferengi 572 DS9 Waltz 573 VOY Mortal Coil 574 VOY Message in a Bottle 575 VOY Waking Moments 576 DS9 Who Mourns for Morn? 577 DS9 Far Beyond the Stars 578 DS9 One Little Ship 579 VOY Hunters 580 DS9 Honor Among Thieves 581 DS9 Change of Heart 582 VOY Prey 583 VOY Retrospect 584 VOY The Killing Game (Part I) 585 VOY The Killing Game (Part II) 586 DS9 Wrongs Darker than Death or Night 587 DS9 Inquisition 588 DS9 In the Pale Moonlight 589 VOY Vis a Vis 590 VOY The Omega Directive 591 DS9 His Way 592 VOY Unforgettable 593 DS9 The Reckoning 594 VOY Living Witness 595 DS9 Valiant 596 VOY Demon 597 DS9 Profit and Lace 598 VOY One 599 DS9 Time's Orphan 600 VOY Hope and Fear 601 DS9 The Sound of her Voice 602 DS9 Tears of the Prophets 603 VOY Night 604 VOY Drone 605 VOY Extreme Risk 606 VOY In the Flesh 607 VOY Once Upon a Time 608 VOY Nothing Human 609 VOY Timeless c 610 DS9 Image in the Sand 611 DS9 Shadows and Symbols 612 DS9 Afterimage 613 DS9 Take Me Out to the Holosuite 614 DS9 Chrysalis 615 DS9 Treachery, Faith, and the Great River 616 DS9 Once More Unto the Breach 617 DS9 The Siege of AR-558 618 VOY Thirty Days 619 DS9 Covenant 620 VOY Infinite Regress 621 VOY Counterpoint 622 DS9 It's Only a Paper Moon 623 DS9 Prodigal Daughter 624 VOY Latent Image 625 VOY Bride of Chaotica 626 DS9 The Emporor's New Cloak 627 VOY Gravity 628 DS9 Field of Fire 629 VOY Bliss 630 DS9 Chimera 631 VOY The Disease 632 DS9 Badda-Bing Badda-Bang 633 DS9 Inter Arma Silent Leges 634 VOY Course: Oblivion 635 VOY Dark Frontier (Part I, II) 636 VOY The Fight 637 VOY Think Tank 638 DS9 Penumbra 639 DS9 'Til Death Do Us Part 640 DS9 Strange Bedfellows 641 DS9 The Changing Face of Evil 642 DS9 When it Rains… 643 DS9 Tacking into the Wind 644 DS9 Extreme Measures 645 DS9 The Dogs of War 646 DS9 What You Leave Behind 647 MOV Insurrection 648 VOY Juggernaut 649 VOY Someone to Watch Over Me 650 VOY 11:59 651 VOY Relativity 652 VOY Warhead 653 VOY Equinox, Part I 654 VOY Equinox, Part II 655 VOY Survival Instinct 656 VOY Barge of the Dead 657 VOY Tinker, Tenor, Doctor, Spy 658 VOY Dragon's Teeth 659 VOY Alice 660 VOY Riddles 661 VOY One Small Step 662 VOY The Voyager Conspiracy 663 VOY Pathfinder c 664 VOY Fair Haven 665 VOY Tsunkatse 666 VOY Blink of an Eye 667 VOY Virtuoso 668 VOY Collective 669 VOY Memorial 670 VOY Spirit Folk 671 VOY Ashes to Ashes 672 VOY Child's Play 673 VOY Good Shepherd 674 VOY Fury 675 VOY Live Fast and Prosper 676 VOY Life Line c 677 VOY Muse 678 VOY The Haunting of Deck Twelve 679 VOY Unimatrix Zero, Part I 680 VOY Unimatrix Zero, Part II 681 VOY Drive 682 VOY Repression 683 VOY Imperfection 684 VOY Critical Care 685 VOY Inside Man c 686 VOY Body and Soul 687 VOY Nightingale 688 VOY Flesh and Blood (Part I, II) 689 VOY Shattered 690 VOY Lineage 691 VOY Repentance 692 VOY Prophesy 693 VOY The Void 694 VOY Workforce, Part I 695 VOY Workforce, Part II 696 VOY Human Error 697 VOY Q2 698 VOY Author, Author 699 VOY Friendship One 700 VOY Natural Law 701 VOY Homestead 702 VOY Renaissance Man 703 VOY Endgame 704 MOV Nemesis 705 MOV Star Trek Enjoy! |
Author: | DavPaz [ Wed Nov 15, 2017 12:30 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Star Trek |
Aye. That'll do it |
Author: | KovacsC [ Wed Nov 15, 2017 12:55 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Star Trek |
Cheers. |
Author: | LewieP [ Wed Nov 15, 2017 12:56 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Star Trek |
No. TOS, TOS movies, TNG, TNG movies, DS9, ENT, STD. Don't bother with voyager. Enterprise is probably skipable too. Edit: I guess slipping in the new movies between ENT and STD couldn't really hurt. |
Author: | KovacsC [ Wed Nov 15, 2017 13:00 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Star Trek |
LewieP wrote: No. TOS, TOS movies, TNG, TNG movies, DS9, ENT, STD. Don't bother with voyager. Enterprise is probably skipable too. Edit: I guess slipping in the new movies between ENT and STD couldn't really hurt. I think you are misunderstanding my question, but thanks. |
Author: | Grim... [ Wed Nov 15, 2017 16:12 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Star Trek |
Voyager is the best one. Giphy "determined": https://media0.giphy.com/media/3oz8xXJZXzv3nBnvzi/giphy-loop.mp4 |
Author: | Goddess Jasmine [ Wed Nov 15, 2017 20:35 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Star Trek |
Grim... wrote: Voyager is the best one. Giphy "determined": https://media1.giphy.com/media/3ov9jNjrhhhSuYZtLi/giphy-loop.mp4 |
Author: | Dr Zoidberg [ Wed Nov 15, 2017 21:07 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Star Trek |
Are well all forgetting The Animated Series? Oddly, despite being a huge Trek fan I don't think I've ever watched it! |
Author: | DavPaz [ Thu Nov 16, 2017 7:20 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Star Trek |
Dr Zoidberg wrote: Are well all forgetting The Animated Series? Oddly, despite being a huge Trek fan I don't think I've ever watched it! |
Author: | Grim... [ Wed Nov 22, 2017 20:04 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Star Trek |
Discovery is pretty good, I think. It could do with some more space pew pew but I understand that's expensive. |
Author: | Doctor Glyndwr [ Wed Nov 22, 2017 20:08 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Star Trek |
I'm three into Discovery and I'm really enjoying it. It's miles from the Trek formula - and better for it, I think. I have no idea where it's going. |
Author: | myp [ Wed Nov 22, 2017 20:20 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Star Trek |
It's awesome apart from the first two episodes and one other near the end, which are merely ok. |
Author: | Doctor Glyndwr [ Wed Nov 22, 2017 20:33 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Star Trek |
Yes, the first two were clearly scene-setting and a bit self-conciously plodding as a result. But the payoff in the third was worth the wait. |
Author: | Mr Dave [ Wed Nov 22, 2017 23:17 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Star Trek |
I think my main problem with it was klingons speaking in klingon. Because it made me want to rip my ears off. |
Author: | Curiosity [ Wed Jan 10, 2018 15:17 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Star Trek |
I have watched 8 episodes of this now, which means I am nearly caught up. I very much enjoyed episode 7, which features a character from an earlier episode. My wife and I did both come to the conclusion that the episode was slightly weird because said character looked really quite like me. |
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