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Author:  sinister agent [ Wed Feb 23, 2011 4:39 ]
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She admitted that after the pay-per-view smut scandal had broken, her son had said: "Dad, haven't you heard of the internet?" Smith was also shocked by a visit to the Erotica exhibition, where confronted by the likes of the Monkey Spanker and artisan-built bondage furniture, "I felt completely innocent."


I believe the word you actually meant to use in place of "innocent", Smith, was "stupid".

Author:  Kern [ Tue Nov 20, 2012 19:58 ]
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Everyone's favourite ex-Home Secretary is in the news again this week.
Apparently, she's admitted being wrong about cannabis when she was in office. Now, if only she'll admit to being wrong about everything else....

Author:  Plissken [ Tue Nov 20, 2012 22:58 ]
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That basically means she knew she was wrong in office, but didn't have the balls to say it. Yet another politician who says "well, unfortunately I can do nothing about it... now".

Author:  Kern [ Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:52 ]
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Well, this thread has aged well.
Unintentionally, you might say.

Author:  DavPaz [ Fri Nov 20, 2020 9:35 ]
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I yearn for the politics of 2009

Author:  Mimi [ Fri Nov 20, 2020 10:39 ]
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Kern wrote:
Well, this thread has aged well.
Unintentionally, you might say.

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It is understood that some in government will claim that Patel’s behaviour towards staff had been “unintentional”, because she was unaware of the effects of her actions.


I’m struggling to get over this line in that article. Is this supposed to be a defence, or explanation of sorts? Bullying people but not understanding (caring) how awfully your actions affect other humans is not something that should be given by way of trying to excuse it. Yikes.

Author:  MaliA [ Fri Nov 20, 2020 10:52 ]
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Mimi wrote:
Kern wrote:
Well, this thread has aged well.
Unintentionally, you might say.

Quote:
It is understood that some in government will claim that Patel’s behaviour towards staff had been “unintentional”, because she was unaware of the effects of her actions.


I’m struggling to get over this line in that article. Is this supposed to be a defence, or explanation of sorts? Bullying people but not understanding (caring) how awfully your actions affect other humans is not something that should be given by way of trying to excuse it. Yikes.


By accounts, she isn't the brightest, and she is an absolutely terrible human being to boot.

Author:  DavPaz [ Fri Nov 20, 2020 11:01 ]
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Call me old fashioned, but I'd like my politicians to be... intelligent

Author:  MaliA [ Fri Nov 20, 2020 11:09 ]
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My views on this are somewhat coloured by the fact I can't stand her.

Author:  DavPaz [ Fri Nov 20, 2020 11:49 ]
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MaliA wrote:
My views on this are somewhat coloured by the fact I can't stand her.

And you fancy her. Complicated

Author:  myp [ Fri Nov 20, 2020 11:51 ]
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MaliA wrote:
My views on this are somewhat coloured by the fact I can't stand her.

I would say let’s explore why you don’t like either Patel or Abbott despite them being polar opposites politically but I actually don’t have time today

Author:  MaliA [ Fri Nov 20, 2020 12:21 ]
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Mr Chonks wrote:
MaliA wrote:
My views on this are somewhat coloured by the fact I can't stand her.

I would say let’s explore why you don’t like either Patel or Abbott despite them being polar opposites politically but I actually don’t have time today


You're going to have to spell this one out for me, chief.

Author:  MaliA [ Fri Nov 20, 2020 12:21 ]
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DavPaz wrote:
MaliA wrote:
My views on this are somewhat coloured by the fact I can't stand her.

And you fancy her. Complicated


It is.

Author:  MrChris [ Fri Nov 20, 2020 12:46 ]
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Yes, she is very fanciable, even more so than Kier Starmer.

I honestly don't know enough about her as a politician to decide how evil she is or otherwise. Did she do bad, Mali?

Author:  MaliA [ Fri Nov 20, 2020 12:52 ]
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Very bad, MrChris, very bad.

Author:  MaliA [ Fri Nov 20, 2020 13:05 ]
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https://twitter.com/SkyNewsBreak/status ... 7925814273




I mean, fucking hell.

Author:  MrChris [ Fri Nov 20, 2020 13:08 ]
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Wasn't the govt argument that it was "unintentional" bullying? Which seems a brilliant artifice to me.

Author:  Cras [ Fri Nov 20, 2020 13:12 ]
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"Not self-aware enough to know she was being an arsehole" is how I translate that.

Author:  Warhead [ Fri Nov 20, 2020 13:27 ]
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And don't forget, she wants to come down hard on counter-terrorist offenders.


Author:  Dr Zoidberg [ Fri Nov 20, 2020 15:51 ]
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Cras wrote:
"Not self-aware enough to know she was being an arsehole" is how I translate that.


That’s a perfect description of my last manager. He was a vile unpleasant bully, but had zero ability to recognise that, and I’m told was quite hurt when he it explained that people didn’t like him.

Author:  MaliA [ Thu Mar 11, 2021 21:09 ]
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MaliA wrote:
Mimi wrote:
Kern wrote:
Well, this thread has aged well.
Unintentionally, you might say.

Quote:
It is understood that some in government will claim that Patel’s behaviour towards staff had been “unintentional”, because she was unaware of the effects of her actions.


I’m struggling to get over this line in that article. Is this supposed to be a defence, or explanation of sorts? Bullying people but not understanding (caring) how awfully your actions affect other humans is not something that should be given by way of trying to excuse it. Yikes.


By accounts, she isn't the brightest, and she is an absolutely terrible human being to boot.

<Adds to file>

https://www.politics.co.uk/comment/2021 ... mpredirect

Author:  Kern [ Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:38 ]
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Yes, it looks like another poorly-constructed, openly illiberal legislation pushed by an authoritarian and out-of-her-depth Home Secretary. And yes, I'm outraged, but as there's so much to be outraged by this administration compared to previous ones it all seems to merge into a general smog of anger which ain't healthy.

The stuff on protest reminds me a heck of a lot about Labour's restrictions on Parliament Square that became farcical. I'm yet to hear howls of protests from the libertarian right who were always so vocal about these things 15 years ago.

Author:  myp [ Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:47 ]
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They only care about freedom these days when it’s freedom from “wokery”. See trans rights: now trans people are stuck in bureaucratic hell in order to get their gender showing correctly on documents, but this is ok for some reason

Author:  MaliA [ Wed Jul 07, 2021 10:13 ]
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I see Schindler and the RNLI are the bad people now

Author:  Kern [ Wed Jul 07, 2021 10:27 ]
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Genuinely sickening.

Author:  markg [ Wed Jul 07, 2021 10:31 ]
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What's all this about?

Author:  MaliA [ Wed Jul 07, 2021 10:33 ]
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https://twitter.com/jdportes/status/1412622035797352453



Author:  DavPaz [ Wed Jul 07, 2021 11:12 ]
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Is the asylum seeker also a criminal now then?

Author:  Sir Taxalot [ Thu Jul 08, 2021 5:32 ]
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I'm sure there is a proper difference in the legal definition of 'arrival in' and 'entry into' (otherwise why would it be in there) but I don't know what it is so it seems like an overlap to my basic mind. Is it to do with clearing border control or something?

Author:  MaliA [ Thu Nov 09, 2023 8:58 ]
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MaliA wrote:
Craster wrote:
Every company in the world can handle expenses claims with a view to ensuring their employees aren't taking the piss. Why can't the government?


I find the incompetence of government administration charming for the most part, though. Otherwise we wouldn't get stuff like this turning up.


Hahahaha oh Christ.

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