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My scroll wheel's just conked out with all the nested quotes.

That had this other game as well, where you had to choose between some doors, and behind each one was something surreal. The only one I can remember is that you had to play volleyball with some little girl, and if you missed she turned into a monster. It's on the Amiga, because my friend had a yarred copy, but I'd love to know what its name was.

Maybe you should try scrolling with a phones keypad? Try dialling 081 811 8181 and ask for Sarah or Phillip.

Wrong number. It's 0898 50 50 50.

not such a good list

Best Platformer: Superfrog

no it wasn't, horrible team 17 stuff..

what about Yo! Joe!, platform action perfection, the amiga's gunstar heroes
or Rainbow islands, rodland, NZLS,

Best Shoot-em-up: Guardian

at least an intersting choice, would have picked Swiv (or llamatron)

Best Racer: Super Skidmarks

some close calls, but this had humour, so i agree

Best Arcade Action: Alien Breed Tower Assault

it is either team 17, or Acid isn't it, until now? anyway, Chaos Engine is an intersting choice, but it isn'ty really a genre is it

What's with this Retrogamer obsession with T17? Sure they're british, but so were The Bitmap Brothers and most amiga software houses. Their games looked really cheap and lacked any kind of style or art.

I _did_ like their Strider rip-off Assassin. I'll give them that.

Rainbow Islands is the best platformer. Superfrog!?!?!? Utterly souless.

It all went wrong when they went to 0181 811 8181. Totally mucked up the jingle.

And to answer the earlier question: yeah, they had a celebrity in the studio who'd try to play it on behalf of the kid on the phone. 'No, you idiot! Jump!'

Sure it did. It just kept asking you to do it.

Also, Lemmings in 'is better than Lemmings 2' shock?

Platformer: Rainbow Islands yes (superb conversion) Flood was good too.

Yeah
Did you do it too, then? It took me fucking months.

I'd go with that, personally. I thought Lemmings 2 was bloated nonsense in comparison.

Oh! I know this one! It's Weird Dreams.

As for Datastorm, we got it free with our Amiga as part of a 10-pack of games and it was easily the one that got played the most (although Tower of Babel was a close second). I think it was one of the first examples of demo sceners producing commercial games (a proud lineage which runs all the way up to Little Big Planet). It was also the first game I played when I got an Amiga emulator running on my modded Xbox, for what it's worth (very little I imagine).

Including Amiga 1200 games seems a bit wrong to me. It's like allowing SNES games in a Best of NES list, or something.

In any event, their whole list is a bit rubbish. Superfrog had decent graphics sure, but it was shit. If memory serves me, it even had deadly spikes in it. Tsk.

Instead of a Best Arcade Action category (which is meaningless) they should have done Best Arcade Port. My vote would go to R-Type 2 or Golden Axe.

I used to love Flood, but I've not played it in years. I do wonder if it has aged well considering about the only thing I can remember about it are the great sound effects.

I really liked Flood, but I remember being terrible at it. I just kept getting caught up by my ghost all the time.

Thanks TossrStu - much appriciated.


Flood had the best ending of any game, ever.

Oh look a WHDload harddrive file of Flood. Who'da thunk it?

Ooh.. cheers for that - I'll have to download that later.

(And then try and remember what I do with it. I've got a compact flash reader thing for getting games from PC to Amiga, but it's been that long that I have to spend a good while remembering how to do anything)

Look on the website for another 3gigs worth of pre-installed ready to go games.

If I remember rightly, I think I'm limited to what games I can use with WHDload as some need a bit of extra memory over what a 1200 comes with as standard. Or something like that. Flood should be fine though I'd imagine

Project X is still very difficult...

"Select now for... GUNS. Power up."

Best Platformer: Superfrog

What?! No, Dimmers is right, it's Ruff 'n' ("Argh," - ed.) Tumble.

Best Shoot-em-up: Guardian

I have a soft spot for UN Squadron personally, but then it was the very first computer game I ever played.

Best Racer: Super Skidmarks

Dimmers on the money again, Lotus 2. Though Super Skidmarks 2 was jolly good.

Best Arcade Action: Alien Breed Tower Assault

Pfft. What? This is guff. Chaos Engine all the way!

Best Adventure: Monkey Island 2

Yeppity yep yep.

Best RPG: Liberation: Captive 2

Never played Liberation but have heard it's super. Can't really recall playing RPG's on my old Amiga 500. I do remember a primative fantasy 3D one that was good, with proper Wolfenstine stylee - not screen by screen at all. It had lots of brown-gold brick walls. Help me fact-fans!

Best Puzzler: Lemmings

Yawn. Lemmings eh? Tch. It was 'Infection', a PD game that was on the AP coverdisk. Or Gem-X. Or that Tetris one that was in the AP Top 100. The one that said, "Do what you have to do," as you completed every level.

Best Sports: Speedball 2

Yeah, I'd go with this. Or Sensi obviously. Played Speedball 2 more, mind.

In addition:

Best Real-Time Strategy: ("Only real time strategy more like," - ed.)

Dune 2

Best multiplayer:

Gravity Power

Best God Game:

Settlers

Best Management game:

Theme Park

Best strategy:

Colonization (Couldn't get enough of this game. Until Alpha Centauri, the best Civ game for me.)

Best Flight Sim:

Knights of the Sky. (F19 Stealth Fighter a close second)

Best Game Pete Can't Find a Category For:

Syndicate

Best strategy = colonisation, the settlers. I just can't decide.

Best shooter = Chaos Engine

Best arcade/action strategy = syndicate/cannon fodder.

Platformer = Ruff ("and" - Ed) Tumble, I quite agree. Also a good candidate for best shoot 'em up.

I don't think I played any amiga RPG ever for more than about ten minutes*. This is because they were all shit, and almost all RPGs are still shit, but with better controls.

*Except for Bloodnet, which was massively flawed, but still very, very good simply for being original, interesting and well-written, as well as allowing you to do pretty much whatever you wanted. A good remake of this without the crap bits would make me weep.

Tetris Pro, AP35.

that was the one you had to uncover the pictures? If that's the one its excellent, probably better than twintris (because it didn't had that annoying 4-1 level)

Finally read the article last night and, um, well it had a good potted history of the system, but some of the boxes were interesting, with some really bad errors (notably Sensible Soccer's amazing Amiga footie game 'Microprose Soccer'...) And, yeah, I don't get the T17 love either, but there you go.

Mm. What I meant, though, is that I don't get the love for T17 in Retro Gamer. Mind you, it was something of an odd issue for me anyway. I was looking forward to the Space Invaders piece, but it just read really oddly, at times like a draft rather than a final edit. I don't really care for the Mega Drive, but enjoyed that piece. And my favourite feature in the mag was Martyn Carroll's piece about Dynamite Dan, despite me having never played that game.

I can't believe only Pete has mentioned Gravity Force 2 / Gravity Power although I suppose it doesn't really fit into any of the categories. Shoot 'em up perhaps? Anyway, I'd just like to brag about the fact that I am probably one of the few people in the world who played the original Gravity Force. It was the same, but with hard walls and rubbish weapons. Still fun though.

And where's the love for Micro Machines? It may not have been as good as the later Megadrive sequels, but it was still ace. Miles more entertaining than the overrated Skidmarks games.

Fuck yeah.

Whilst we're mentioning Skidmarks, doesn't this look similar?

Legends Of Valour?

I wrote an "almost" complete walkthrough to that. Might get around to putting it on GameFAQS one day.

I rate Supercars II, Super Off-Road and Skidmarks way higher than Micro Machines. Didn't like micromachines multiplayer and there was a level in single player that was just too hard.

Micro Machines was novel, but after a few levels the single player was just infuriatingly hard and unfair, and the two player was fun, but needed more levels.