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Author:  Grim... [ Fri Feb 13, 2009 18:16 ]
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The pilot is on tonight.
Bittorrent is on standby.

Author:  myp [ Fri Feb 13, 2009 18:17 ]
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Thanks for the heads up, chap!

Author:  MrChris [ Fri Feb 13, 2009 18:17 ]
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The whatnow?

Author:  myp [ Fri Feb 13, 2009 18:18 ]
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New programme by Joss Whedon. He did Buffy, Angel and Firefly/Serenity.

Author:  kalmar [ Fri Feb 13, 2009 18:18 ]
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Like Buffy except no vampires, I'm guessing.

Author:  Grim... [ Fri Feb 13, 2009 18:19 ]
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Mr Chris wrote:
The whatnow?

In Dollhouse, Eliza Dushku plays a young woman called Echo, a member of a group of people known as "Actives" or "Dolls." The Dolls have had their personalities wiped clean so they can be imprinted with any number of new personas, including memory, muscle memory, skills, and language, for different assignments. They're then hired out for particular jobs, crimes, fantasies, and occasional good deeds. On missions, Actives are monitored internally (and remotely) by Handlers. In between tasks, they are mind-wiped into a child-like state and live in a futuristic dormitory/laboratory, a hidden facility nicknamed "The Dollhouse". The story follows Echo, who begins, in her mind-wiped state, to become self-aware.

Beyond Dushku's character, the show will also revolve around the people who run the mysterious "Dollhouse" and two other "Dolls", Victor and Sierra, who are friendly with Echo (the names are simply letters in the phonetic alphabet). Although the Actives are ostensibly volunteers, the operation is highly illegal and under constant threat on one end from Paul Ballard, a determined federal agent who has heard a rumor about the Dolls, and an insane rogue Active on the other.

Author:  MrChris [ Fri Feb 13, 2009 18:19 ]
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myp wrote:
New programme by Joss Whedon. He did Buffy, Angel and Firefly/Serenity.

I'm going to really really mock your hat when I see you.

Grim.... - thank you, you're very kind.

*waves fingers at myp*.

Author:  Rodafowa [ Fri Feb 13, 2009 18:21 ]
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Had no idea. Cheers, Grim...!

Author:  kalmar [ Fri Feb 13, 2009 18:21 ]
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Grim... wrote:
Mr Chris wrote:
The whatnow?

In Dollhouse, Eliza Dushku plays a young woman called Echo, a member of a group of people known as "Actives" or "Dolls." The Dolls have had their personalities wiped clean so they can be imprinted with any number of new personas, including memory, muscle memory, skills, and language, for different assignments. They're then hired out for particular jobs, crimes, fantasies, and occasional good deeds.


Hah. Fox Force Five much?

Author:  myp [ Fri Feb 13, 2009 18:24 ]
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Mr Chris wrote:
myp wrote:
New programme by Joss Whedon. He did Buffy, Angel and Firefly/Serenity.

I'm going to really really mock your hat when I see you.

Grim.... - thank you, you're very kind.

*waves fingers at myp*.

Which hat? I have many.

Author:  MrChris [ Fri Feb 13, 2009 18:30 ]
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GO GO PLURALISED THREAT

Also - bit Femme Nikita, innit?

The show, that is, not myp's hats.

Author:  myp [ Fri Feb 13, 2009 18:33 ]
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He wrote Buffy, btw.

Author:  Grim... [ Fri Feb 13, 2009 18:34 ]
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kalmar wrote:
Hah. Fox Force Five much?

Exciting Tarantino-film-fact: The Deadly Viper Squad in Kill Bill appear to be Fox Force Five.

Also, well, no.

Author:  NervousPete [ Fri Feb 13, 2009 18:34 ]
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Hope it's good.

Also hope if it is that it's not cancelled in about twelve episodes time. Oh ho!

Author:  myp [ Fri Feb 13, 2009 18:41 ]
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nervouspete wrote:
Also hope if it is that it's not cancelled in about twelve episodes time. Oh ho!

Don't. It still hurts. :(

Author:  kalmar [ Fri Feb 13, 2009 18:43 ]
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Firefly was shit!

Author:  CraigGrannell [ Fri Feb 13, 2009 18:44 ]
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Place your bets now on how long Dollhouse lasts. I'm going for 13 episodes filmed, nine shown.

Author:  myp [ Fri Feb 13, 2009 18:47 ]
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kalmar wrote:
Firefly was shit!

GTFO.

Author:  GovernmentYard [ Fri Feb 13, 2009 18:51 ]
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Seriously, fucking ban the cunt.

You can't go around saying shit like that.

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Fri Feb 13, 2009 19:08 ]
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Ban this sick filth by Rapist Whedon.

Author:  NervousPete [ Fri Feb 13, 2009 19:33 ]
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kalmar wrote:
Firefly was shit!


BBC Announcer Voice: "And now for a Banorama special, 'Kalmar'."

Author:  myp [ Fri Feb 13, 2009 19:37 ]
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nervouspete wrote:
BBC Announcer Voice: "And now for a Banorama special, 'Kalmar'."

"There may be strong language from the beginning."

Author:  Bobbyaro [ Fri Feb 13, 2009 19:38 ]
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Grim... wrote:
Mr Chris wrote:
The whatnow?

In Dollhouse, Eliza Dushku ...


That's all I needed to know.

Author:  BikNorton [ Fri Feb 13, 2009 20:11 ]
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
Ban this sick filth by Rapist Whedon.
I was about to say that that mentalist is going to absolute *explode*, isn't she?

Author:  DavPaz [ Fri Feb 13, 2009 21:43 ]
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kalmar wrote:
Firefly was shit!

Gff, pfffft, *bluster*, gack!

What? OUT! NOW!

Author:  Cras [ Fri Feb 13, 2009 21:46 ]
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The mods have dealt with this appropriately. Kalmar has been erased, and a new personality imprinted onto his personage. Hopefully this one will be less wrong.

Author:  DavPaz [ Fri Feb 13, 2009 21:56 ]
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Now that's what I voted for!

Author:  Grim... [ Sun Feb 15, 2009 11:07 ]
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I've watched the first episode, it was interesting. No laughs, it looks like it's trying to be quite a 'serious' action-thriller.
I get the feeling it's going to be complicated. Helo from BS:G is in it.

The episode was quite good, it entertained but didn't have that "shit this is going to be a classic" feeling that Serenity did. And that crazy woman who wrote about Wheedon being a rapist or whatever is going to do her nut when she sees this (I'll come back to this later).

Author:  Rodafowa [ Sun Feb 15, 2009 12:31 ]
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Grim... wrote:
I've watched the first episode, it was interesting. No laughs, it looks like it's trying to be quite a 'serious' action-thriller.
I get the feeling it's going to be complicated. Helo from BS:G is in it.

The episode was quite good, it entertained but didn't have that "shit this is going to be a classic" feeling that Serenity did.

This, exactly. It's OK, but at the moment it's just Le Femme Nikita (the series) without the interesting characters and with a few nice flourishes.

Author:  Derek The Halls [ Sun Feb 15, 2009 13:38 ]
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For 10 minutes I was wondering when it would start. For about 30 minutes I was thinking this a terrible boring misfire. For the final 10 minutes I was thinking it was pretty interesting and exciting.

The last 10 minutes save it. Just. It's hopefully going to get properly going now it's established its scenario. Good performance from Eliza.

It's got thingy from Journeyman in it as well. Which is a series I'd forgotten about until seeing Dollhouse but was really good.

Author:  Derek The Halls [ Sun Feb 15, 2009 13:50 ]
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Also I think as a tribute to Gary Numan they should retitle the series 'A Game Called Echo'

Author:  Grim... [ Sun Feb 15, 2009 14:04 ]
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Here is the episode, chums - direct download or stream: http://www.fullonrobotchubby.co.uk/random/Dollhouse.avi

Author:  Derek The Halls [ Sun Feb 22, 2009 13:29 ]
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A Game Called Echo, Episode 2 review

A little bit more interesting but the script is still pretty awful and the acting very stilted. Eliza Dhusku is still hott.

Author:  kalmar [ Mon Feb 23, 2009 0:31 ]
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Thanks Grim... Downloadified.
Shall be watching this tomorrow - but not holding my breath much, given Firefly.

Author:  sinister agent [ Mon Feb 23, 2009 5:22 ]
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myp wrote:
New programme by Joss Whedon. He did Buffy, Angel and Firefly/Serenity.


... and Alien 4.

Author:  myp [ Mon Feb 23, 2009 10:43 ]
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I didn't actually think Alien Resurrection was that bad, compared to Alien3.

Author:  Cras [ Mon Feb 23, 2009 10:45 ]
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It was a great film, up until the 'mummy-cuddles' bit.

Author:  BikNorton [ Mon Feb 23, 2009 10:54 ]
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Yeah.

That and the Quadrilogy version of 3 is a much-improved film. Fucking executives.

Wait, which is the mummy-cuddles bit? When she jumps into the nest is where my patience wears thin, it's pretty much all mummy-cuddles from that point on.

Author:  Cras [ Mon Feb 23, 2009 10:57 ]
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BikNorton wrote:
Wait, which is the mummy-cuddles bit? When she jumps into the nest is where my patience wears thin, it's pretty much all mummy-cuddles from that point on.


Yeah, that's what I meant.

Author:  Rodafowa [ Mon Feb 23, 2009 11:44 ]
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Yeah, I saw Alien Resurrection again recently and was surprised how decent the first half of it was.

Helped that it had the mighty Michael Wincott - the gravelly-voiced psychopath's gravelly-voiced psychopath - in it, obviously.

Author:  Derek The Halls [ Sun Mar 01, 2009 11:28 ]
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A Game Called Echo Episode 3 - It's still both simultaneously boring and interesting at the same time. Looks like I'm going to continue watching, like an idiots.

Author:  GovernmentYard [ Sun Mar 01, 2009 13:20 ]
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I loved it again - exactly the sort of Fox-pleasing episodes he has to do, to keep it on air, epic swathes of toned, glistening ladyflesh throughout and a steady rate of plot development. The viscera hs also been kept in. Good skills.

Author:  kalmar [ Sun Mar 01, 2009 20:03 ]
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I think it's great, it's got an interesting feel to it, Lynch-lite or something. The acting isn't bad, it's good to watch. Every review I've seen goes on about how preposterous the plot is, but.. it's scifi, right.

And it's not even that preposterous. If that technology existed, why wouldn't it get used to keep a library of "specialists" on tap like that, morality aside?

Author:  Dr Lave [ Sun Mar 01, 2009 20:13 ]
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Joss can be quite variable. This seems closer to pish like Angel and Alien 4 and less like Serenity and Buffy.

Author:  MrChris [ Sun Mar 01, 2009 22:27 ]
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Dr Lave wrote:
pish like Angel and Alien 4


Oh dear oh dear oh dear.

*shakes head sadly*

Did you do a PhD in wrong, Lave?

Author:  Derek The Halls [ Sun Mar 01, 2009 23:53 ]
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Alien 4 I enjoy quite a bit but Angel was terribly after halfway through season 2. Seasons 4 and 6 of Buffy were dreadful too.

Author:  Pundabaya [ Mon Mar 02, 2009 0:09 ]
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The truth about Buffy: It was good until the season long plot arcs came in. Monster of the Week episodes were much better.

See also: X-Files.

Author:  sinister agent [ Mon Mar 02, 2009 5:27 ]
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Every time I come back to this place, the number of people claiming that Alien 4 wasn't an embarassing pile of shit increases instead of decreasing.

This is a world I want no part of.

Author:  devilman [ Mon Mar 02, 2009 9:31 ]
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Pundabaya wrote:
The truth about Buffy: It was good until the season long plot arcs came in. Monster of the Week episodes were much better.

See also: X-Files.


Never seen an episode of Buffy but agree 100% on the X-Files.

Author:  MaliA [ Mon Mar 02, 2009 9:42 ]
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Angel wasn't meant to be at all like Buffy, though. Buffy was a post modern allegory of growing up, whereas Angel was quite obviously modernist take on film noir.

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