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| Author: | Da5e [ Sun Apr 13, 2008 21:57 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Shmups |
Have you told MAME to look in that folder during an audit? That's where I was going wrong. |
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| Author: | WTB [ Sun Apr 13, 2008 22:10 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Shmups |
I'm using MAME plus and I don't see an option for that. It seems to be auditing the right folder, though. It's just not finding my new roms. |
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| Author: | WTB [ Sun Apr 13, 2008 22:45 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Shmups |
Cocknobs. I think it's because the roms aren't compatible. I was trying to play Giga Wing. I downloaded it from a MAME site, though. Am I using an old version of MAME or something? |
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| Author: | Da5e [ Sun Apr 13, 2008 23:13 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Shmups |
How big is the Gigawing zip? |
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| Author: | devilman [ Sun Apr 13, 2008 23:39 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Shmups |
If it helps, there's a few links to Giga Wing here. I don't know how up-to-date Emucation's roms are though. Mind you, every time I visit the site, I expect it to have been pulled. |
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| Author: | WTB [ Mon Apr 14, 2008 0:01 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Shmups |
I had an old version of MAME Plus is all. I've got the latest one now and it all works. Also fully configured my Hori stick so it's working excellently. Shienryu is awesome and gets the thumbs up from me. |
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| Author: | markg [ Mon Apr 14, 2008 8:53 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Shmups |
markg wrote: I can understand the appeal but for me this game just sounds like a recipe for frustration and misery. I appear to be ok at this game only if it's 3.30am and I'm half drunk, sober and in the daytime I'm exactly as rubbish as I expected that I would be. |
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| Author: | Zardoz [ Mon Apr 14, 2008 9:24 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Shmups |
Plus you had excellent one on one coaching. (hic) |
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| Author: | Zen-Chan [ Mon Apr 14, 2008 9:29 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Shmups |
The PSP Parodius and Gradius collections are a thing of beauty. |
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| Author: | RuySan [ Mon Apr 14, 2008 12:08 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Shmups |
i kind like Shmups. The only thing i don't like about them is that they hurt my self-esteem by make me think that i'm the person with worst reflexes in the world. Do they all need to be so goddamn hard? The only one that i remember being accessible was Wings of Death on the Amiga. Everything else is impossible in my book. Ikaruga isn't even that hard imo (at least i can finish the 1st level without losing lives). |
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| Author: | MrChris [ Mon Apr 14, 2008 12:12 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Shmups |
Xenon ftw! |
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| Author: | throughsilver [ Mon Apr 14, 2008 19:16 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Shmups |
Zen-Chan wrote: The PSP Parodius and Gradius collections are a thing of beauty. Did they get a Euro release at all? Sounds good, but play.com turns up nada on the Paro front. |
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| Author: | YOG [ Tue Apr 15, 2008 13:51 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Shmups |
I'll post my Parodius Da! scores after I get back to clearing the first loop. (The Gradius games all go pretty easy on the numbers, y'see. If you've scored over one million, you're usually half way through the second loop, so first-loop scores tend to look very unimpressive indeed.  )
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| Author: | Anonymous X [ Tue Apr 15, 2008 18:47 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Shmups |
Zardoz wrote: nervouspete wrote: Are there any decent schmups on the PC or DS Lite, either horizontal or vertical? I'd quite like at least one.  Better off playing GBA shooters on your DS lite. Gradius Galaxies is a good start. So, for those of us like me whose only current-gen TV-based console is the Wii, any good shoot 'em ups? (BTW, I can get access to a PSP, so may well get the one of those Konami shmp compilations. Are PSPs region free?) |
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| Author: | WTB [ Tue Apr 15, 2008 23:05 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Shmups |
Fuck me! Had a look on Shmups.com and according to those guys, DoDonPachi is the finest shooter of all time and they're not wrong. What an incredibly fun game. Everyone should download MAME, get an arcade stick and play this. Fucking brilliant. Anybody got any high scores? I got 350,000 on my first go (I think, I'll double check). |
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| Author: | Da5e [ Tue Apr 15, 2008 23:51 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Shmups |
Gigawing is better. DoDonPachi is proper good fun, though, 'specially on the second loop. |
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| Author: | WTB [ Tue Apr 15, 2008 23:54 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Shmups |
I'm not a huuuuge fan of Gigawing, it's pretty decent. |
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| Author: | Dr Lave [ Wed Apr 16, 2008 1:29 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Shmups |
DoDonPachi is awesomesauce. I would kill for a proper Live release. (not a silly disk version.) |
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| Author: | Malc74 [ Wed Apr 16, 2008 3:17 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Shmups |
jonarob wrote: Fuck me! Had a look on Shmups.com and according to those guys, DoDonPachi is the finest shooter of all time and they're not wrong. What an incredibly fun game. Everyone should download MAME, get an arcade stick and play this. Fucking brilliant. Anybody got any high scores? I got 350,000 on my first go (I think, I'll double check). Haven't played in a while, but I was getting onto Level 4 on one credit in the past. My high is 10.5 million or thereabouts, although I've never been able to get the hang of chaining to get the really big scores. The prequel, DonPachi, is also worth checking out - not least for some hilarious Engrish in the copyright notice when you first boot it up. |
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| Author: | Zen-Chan [ Wed Apr 16, 2008 7:23 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Shmups |
throughsilver wrote: Zen-Chan wrote: The PSP Parodius and Gradius collections are a thing of beauty. Did they get a Euro release at all? Sounds good, but play.com turns up nada on the Paro front. Sadly not, but all the menus etc are in English (and they are hugely extensive, even going as far as allowing you to emulate slowdown in the originals). There are two other Konami shooter collections on the PSP, a Salamander one and a Twinbee one as well. |
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| Author: | throughsilver [ Wed Apr 16, 2008 20:09 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Shmups |
Ta for the info. And in the absence of lik-sang (I am an old school head), which sites still ship to the you-kay? |
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| Author: | CUS [ Wed Apr 16, 2008 20:13 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Shmups |
Try perhaps Play Asia (not affiliated with Play.com). They're good, though I don't know if they have what you're after. |
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| Author: | RuySan [ Thu Apr 17, 2008 10:04 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Shmups |
Pundabaya wrote: Okay, I don't particularly like shmups, but I downloaded the trial to Ikaruga, wanting to see what all the fuss is about. I enjoyed the first level, didn't beat the boss, but saw how to beat the boss. Bought the full game. Got past the boss quite easily. And  holy crap, that second level is a bitch and a half. First level: tough, but fair. Second level: Insanity.i don't think level 2 isn't that hard, and i'm crap at shmups. Level 3 is the shit though. Has anyone got to level 4? |
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| Author: | Zardoz [ Thu Apr 17, 2008 10:20 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Shmups |
Level 2 is a definite step up from the first level though. Still haven't mastered it myself yet. I get unstuck after the cube maze bit when the rotating blocks spit out arcs of alternate white then black, with a medium size ship pissing photon death down the centre. Is everyone else playing on normal with 3 lives and no continues? |
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| Author: | NervousPete [ Thu Apr 17, 2008 10:28 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Shmups |
Does anyone know a handy guide on how to install and run MAME on XP? Because I've tried looking for guides out there, and the only ones I've found are completely incomprehensible. Never tried Mame before, you see. Intrigued. |
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| Author: | WTB [ Thu Apr 17, 2008 12:11 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Shmups |
I was completely new, too. First, I downloaded the awesome package provided by Klatrymadon up there ^ Klatrymadon wrote: MAME Plus is probably the easiest one to use, mate. I actually have a version of it up on my FTP, with a bunch of games: Enjoy! Bookmark this for all your ROMs.  This worked most excellently, and comes with many great games. However, I wanted some newer shmups so I had to upgrade to the latest version of MAME Plus, which I found with a quick google. It's not the most user friendly thing in the world, but you get used to it. And once you do, it's pure shmup heaven. |
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| Author: | RuySan [ Thu Apr 17, 2008 14:34 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Shmups |
i got to the Wheel in the 3rd level of Ikaruga. They gotta be kidding |
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| Author: | Anonymous X [ Thu Apr 17, 2008 17:39 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Shmups |
MAME OS X works pretty well if you have a Mac, thankfully.
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| Author: | Mr Dave [ Thu Apr 17, 2008 18:36 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Shmups |
RuySan wrote: i got to the Wheel in the 3rd level of Ikaruga. They gotta be kidding The wheel is actually pretty easy. Sit near the front as one colour and just rotate round in the appropriate colour stream. You'll easily knock out most of the opposing colour, making a whole lot of breathing room before the streams start appearing. Managed to kill that one without losing a single life. |
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| Author: | Malc74 [ Thu Apr 17, 2008 21:14 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Shmups |
Zardoz wrote: Level 2 is a definite step up from the first level though. Still haven't mastered it myself yet. I get unstuck after the cube maze bit when the rotating blocks spit out arcs of alternate white then black, with a medium size ship pissing photon death down the centre. I still haven't beaten the Level 2 boss yet, but the best technique for the streams of bullets section is to lay off the fire button as much as possible and just concentrate on absorbing the bullets by switching colours. I usually fly around and sweep up as much of each stream as possible before quickly swiching colours and sweeping up the next one. It's actually not that difficult with repeated play, which is more than I can say for the bastard boss, which eats me alive every time. Quote: Is everyone else playing on normal with 3 lives and no continues? I am, anyway. |
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| Author: | Mr Dave [ Fri Apr 18, 2008 0:06 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Shmups |
Ikaruga Final boss = Bleh?!? My hand is hurting from hitting the change colour button as quickly as possible. But I beat it, anyway. |
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| Author: | Trousers [ Fri Apr 18, 2008 6:52 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Shmups |
Mr Dave wrote: Ikaruga Final boss = Bleh?!? My hand is hurting from hitting the change colour button as quickly as possible. But I beat it, anyway. I've never seen it, I'm too obsessed with chaining. Managed to get an "A" on level 1 last night with a 49 strong chain. I may have to just try and play through the game with continues at some point to see whats's in those later levels. |
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| Author: | Malc74 [ Fri Apr 18, 2008 16:00 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Shmups |
Trousers wrote: Mr Dave wrote: Ikaruga Final boss = Bleh?!? My hand is hurting from hitting the change colour button as quickly as possible. But I beat it, anyway. I've never seen it, I'm too obsessed with chaining. Managed to get an "A" on level 1 last night with a 49 strong chain. I may have to just try and play through the game with continues at some point to see whats's in those later levels. What was your final score on Level 1 when you got that A, Trousers? I've managed 50-odd chains but my best rating so far is B+. Hmm, I wonder if you automatically don't get an A if you lose a life, as that seems to be my major problem - I spend so much time concentrating on the chains that I die stupidly at some point in the level. Oh, and I'm gunning for your score, obv. |
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| Author: | RuySan [ Fri Apr 18, 2008 16:14 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Shmups |
been playing soldier blade (Pc engine). Still can't get past level 5 |
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| Author: | YOG [ Fri Apr 18, 2008 16:35 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Shmups |
What are the newer shmups you mentioned playing, jonarob? Is Ketsui up and running? That'd be amazing. I haven't downloaded any ROMs for a while, but I may get a newer version of MAME Plus for my PC if there are any awesome games I can't currently play (my laptop has serious issues running the latest version, y'see, and that's what I usually play MAME stuff on). Edit: I've been playing lots of G-Darius, lately. I can get to Great Thing (the final boss on the game's hardest route), but he's totally pissing on my chips. |
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| Author: | Trousers [ Fri Apr 18, 2008 19:59 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Shmups |
Malc74 wrote: What was your final score on Level 1 when you got that A, Trousers? I've managed 50-odd chains but my best rating so far is B+. Hmm, I wonder if you automatically don't get an A if you lose a life, as that seems to be my major problem - I spend so much time concentrating on the chains that I die stupidly at some point in the level. Oh, and I'm gunning for your score, obv. I was just over 2m when I finished the level (yes I totally shit out on level 2). I think the time to finish the boss counts in the rating as well. |
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| Author: | Malc74 [ Sat Apr 19, 2008 4:46 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Shmups |
Nya-ha! At the moment* I'm striding triumphantly on top of my friends leaderboard for Ikaruga with 2.6 million! Woo! Hell, in a fit of madness I even had a few goes on Hard, and actually managed to clear Level 1 and score over a million - good enough for 157th in the world at the moment! I still haven't beaten that bastard Level 2 boss though... *Until Trousers plays again. |
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| Author: | Trousers [ Sat Apr 19, 2008 12:38 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Shmups |
Malc74 wrote: *Until Trousers plays again. Incorrect. I have played it for at least an hour, possibly two this morning and am still 400k off your score and don't look like getting anywhere near it the way I am playing right now. In a huff I went on Mario Kart and spanked my Luigi Circuit time which made me feel a bit better. |
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| Author: | Malc74 [ Sun Apr 20, 2008 4:17 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Shmups |
Woohoo! Finally beat the Level 2 boss in normal play. Finished up at around 3.6 million or thereabouts. Of course, Level 3 spilt my pint, belched in my face and called me a "great big girly puff", but we'll see about that - oh yes we will.* *Or maybe not - it really is very, very difficult. |
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| Author: | romanista [ Sun Apr 20, 2008 12:01 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Shmups |
mmm, haven't played ikaruga only twice since getting it, due to MK, so i probably am bottom (and my best score was in the first attempt, when i hadn't bought it yet) |
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| Author: | WTB [ Sun Apr 20, 2008 14:44 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Shmups |
I've played once, I can't be arsed with it. I've always been pretty neutral towards it, and I wish I hadn't spent money on it now. I've already got it for the Dreamcast. |
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| Author: | Satsuma [ Sun Apr 20, 2008 17:47 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Shmups |
I'll be damned if I can get off that level where you're stuck in the middle of two rotating rings. I hate you all. |
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| Author: | Pundabaya [ Sun Apr 20, 2008 18:29 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Shmups |
I had a really good (for me) run through Level 1 on Ikaruga the other day. I'm not at the bottom of my Friends Leaderboards! I had an even better run through, then fucked it at the boss. |
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| Author: | RuySan [ Sun Apr 20, 2008 20:00 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Shmups |
Has anyone ever played wings of Wor for the megadrive? I really love that one |
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| Author: | Da5e [ Mon Apr 21, 2008 0:36 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Shmups |
I finished Thunder Force 4 yesterday. I AM KING. |
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| Author: | GeeZa [ Tue Apr 22, 2008 3:10 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Shmups |
I imported Salamander Portable for the PSP a little while ago and have to say it's not bad at all if you like your classic horizontals. |
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| Author: | YOG [ Mon Apr 28, 2008 10:24 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Shmups |
Finished G-Darius last night (on the "all down" route, yay)!  Homura should be with me soon, but in the meantime I'm going to work on DDP DOJ and see if I can't make it to the fifth level. |
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| Author: | Malc74 [ Wed May 07, 2008 1:48 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Shmups |
Bangai-O Spirits gets a 10 from Eurogamer. Can't wait for this to come out over here, since I don't have the means to (blah blah, something about "importing" I think. Ed.) |
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| Author: | CUS [ Wed May 07, 2008 2:03 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Shmups |
On the one hand - another 10? On the other, I seem to remember all of their 10s being very good games. So... okay then. And Bangai-O (on Dreamcast, at least) IS one of the most sheer fun games I've ever played, so woo! |
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| Author: | Malc74 [ Thu Jul 03, 2008 5:05 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Shmups |
Blimey, this thread died a death, huh? Anyway, I bought a few more shmups recently - Gradius V and Silpheed for the PS2, and Castle Shikigami 3 for the Wii. I haven't played the first two all that much yet, but Shiki is, well, yet another Shikigami game, basically. I like the series, but all three games are pretty much indistinguishable from each other. Aksys have actually done a pretty sterling job on the translations & voice acting this time around though. Next up on my shmup purchasing list will be Blast Works (getting excellent reviews) and The Monkey King (getting absolutely no reviews at all). I'd love to see some of the recently announced/released Japanese shmups making it over to the west (Raiden IV, Raiden Fighters Aces, that Cave compilation, Otomedius Gorgeous, Ketsui DS, etc). Then again, for the sake of my bank balance maybe it's best they stay in Japan. |
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