Be Excellent To Each Other

And, you know, party on. Dude.

All times are UTC [ DST ]




Reply to topic  [ 238 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2, 3, 4, 5  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: 11.11.11
PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 12:00 
SupaMod
User avatar
Est. 1978

Joined: 27th Mar, 2008
Posts: 68185
Location: Your Mum
...

_________________
Grim... wrote:
I wish Craster had left some girls for the rest of us.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: 11.11.11
PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 12:00 
User avatar
Can't re-member

Joined: 27th Mar, 2008
Posts: 55221
Location: Liberty City
..........................

_________________
I am currently under construction.
Thank you for your patience.


Image


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: 11.11.11
PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 12:03 

Joined: 30th Mar, 2008
Posts: 8679
Ah silence inflation. Didn't everyone do this on Sunday?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: 11.11.11
PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 12:03 
SupaMod
User avatar
Est. 1978

Joined: 27th Mar, 2008
Posts: 68185
Location: Your Mum
It's traditional to do both, is it not?

_________________
Grim... wrote:
I wish Craster had left some girls for the rest of us.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: 11.11.11
PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 12:04 
User avatar
Sleepyhead

Joined: 30th Mar, 2008
Posts: 27163
Location: Kidbrooke
Dudley wrote:
Ah silence inflation. Didn't everyone do this on Sunday?


Possibly, but it's meant to be the eleventh hour, etc.

And at least this is a worthy cause, as it were.

_________________
I've got a bad feeling about this.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: 11.11.11
PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 12:04 
User avatar
INFINITE POWAH

Joined: 1st Apr, 2008
Posts: 30498
Dudley wrote:
Ah silence inflation. Didn't everyone do this on Sunday?

Oh fuck off, would you.

_________________
http://www.thehomeofawesome.com/
Eagles soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: 11.11.11
PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 12:05 

Joined: 30th Mar, 2008
Posts: 8679
Mr Chris wrote:
Dudley wrote:
Ah silence inflation. Didn't everyone do this on Sunday?

Oh fuck off, would you.


:luv: - Note I waited till 11:03.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: 11.11.11
PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 12:07 
User avatar
Song Wars 08/09 Champion

Joined: 30th Mar, 2008
Posts: 2320
Much kudos, old dudes.

Especially the RAF guy, insisting on putting down his own wreath even though he's wheelchair bound and over a hundred years old.

_________________
Image


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: 11.11.11
PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 12:07 
SupaMod
User avatar
Est. 1978

Joined: 27th Mar, 2008
Posts: 68185
Location: Your Mum
People were still phoning our office, and the two youngest people seemed to have no clue what was going on, and happily nattered away.

_________________
Grim... wrote:
I wish Craster had left some girls for the rest of us.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: 11.11.11
PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 12:07 
User avatar
Legendary Boogeyman

Joined: 22nd Dec, 2010
Posts: 8175
I've done my time on remembrance day. Every cunting year during school I marched in the school band on every freezing fucking Remembrance Sunday. We marched while playing Semper Fidelis.

_________________
Mr Kissyfur wrote:
Pretty much everyone agrees with Gnomes, really, it's just some are too right on to admit it. :)


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: 11.11.11
PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 12:08 
User avatar

Joined: 31st Mar, 2008
Posts: 8434
I miss being in a proper office for this, I remember one year the fire alarm went off to signify the start of the silence and this one guy, who was on the phone to a customer, just panicked and slammed the phone down. :D


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: 11.11.11
PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 12:09 
User avatar
Can't re-member

Joined: 27th Mar, 2008
Posts: 55221
Location: Liberty City
Grim... wrote:
People were still phoning our office, and the two youngest people seemed to have no clue what was going on, and happily nattered away.


I just told someone off who burst into our room asking for something halfway through.

_________________
I am currently under construction.
Thank you for your patience.


Image


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: 11.11.11
PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 12:10 

Joined: 30th Mar, 2008
Posts: 8679
I'm not in my office this year but I can't remember anything last year or the year before.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: 11.11.11
PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 12:11 
User avatar
Song Wars 08/09 Champion

Joined: 30th Mar, 2008
Posts: 2320
One year when I was at college during the silence we all halted in the corridor outside the refectory. At that moment, the Pot Noodle machine decided to shout "Help, help me, I'm a man in a suit!".

You have no idea how much we struggled to not start giggling, but silent we stayed. I'm not one for religion or tradition, but this is something that I can respect, if not exactly relate to.

_________________
Image


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: 11.11.11
PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 12:13 
SupaMod
User avatar
Est. 1978

Joined: 27th Mar, 2008
Posts: 68185
Location: Your Mum
Sheepeh wrote:
Much kudos, old dudes.

My scottish Grandfather was a piper during WW2. The nutcase and his nutcase piper mates would find the highest point on the battlefield and play the bagpipes with a scottish flag tied to their backs before and while the scots attacked. Bullet magnet much?

The only time he ever played after that was at the funerals of the other members of his piper squadron (probably not the right word) - they would all follow the coffin down the aisle playing a traditional scottish rememberance song that I forget the name of.

When my grandfather died, there was only one piper left to play him down the aisle. In possibly the only properly "good" thing we've ever done in our lives, my brother and I learned to play to song and did the same for him (he was called Dhugal) when he died.

_________________
Grim... wrote:
I wish Craster had left some girls for the rest of us.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: 11.11.11
PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 12:17 
User avatar
Not to be confused with elbow

Joined: 20th Aug, 2008
Posts: 4517
Location: Wales, boyo!
Thanks grandad Frank and all the rest
x

_________________
Decaf metal


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: 11.11.11
PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 12:18 
SupaMod
User avatar
Est. 1978

Joined: 27th Mar, 2008
Posts: 68185
Location: Your Mum
ComicalGnomes wrote:
I've done my time on remembrance day.

You ignorant fuck.

_________________
Grim... wrote:
I wish Craster had left some girls for the rest of us.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: 11.11.11
PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 12:20 
User avatar
Legendary Boogeyman

Joined: 22nd Dec, 2010
Posts: 8175
Grim... wrote:
ComicalGnomes wrote:
I've done my time on remembrance day.

You ignorant fuck.

Fuck you, quite frankly. I never had to go to them, but I chose to go many services and perform for the assembled crowd and stand in remembrance on cold November mornings and you're calling me an ignorant fuck?

_________________
Mr Kissyfur wrote:
Pretty much everyone agrees with Gnomes, really, it's just some are too right on to admit it. :)


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: 11.11.11
PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 12:21 

Joined: 30th Mar, 2008
Posts: 8679
Don't forget Comical, 4 minutes is the exact right amount of silence. Any more is not required, but a second less and you're disrespecting Britain!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: 11.11.11
PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 12:22 
SupaMod
User avatar
Est. 1978

Joined: 27th Mar, 2008
Posts: 68185
Location: Your Mum
ComicalGnomes wrote:
Grim... wrote:
ComicalGnomes wrote:
I've done my time on remembrance day.

You ignorant fuck.

Fuck you, quite frankly. I never had to go to them, but I chose to go many services and perform for the assembled crowd and stand in remembrance on cold November mornings and you're calling me an ignorant fuck?

If you think you've "done your time", then yes.

_________________
Grim... wrote:
I wish Craster had left some girls for the rest of us.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: 11.11.11
PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 12:23 
User avatar
INFINITE POWAH

Joined: 1st Apr, 2008
Posts: 30498
Dudley wrote:
Don't forget Comical, 4 minutes is the exact right amount of silence. Any more is not required, but a second less and you're disrespecting Britain!

Tell you what - next year, why don't you go along to the Cenotaph and yell that at the assembled veterans? They clearly need educating.

There's cynicism and then there's just being an insensitive smart-arse for the sake of getting a reaction.

_________________
http://www.thehomeofawesome.com/
Eagles soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: 11.11.11
PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 12:24 
User avatar
Fitness Nut...

Joined: 25th Sep, 2008
Posts: 20503
Location: shropshire, uk
Grim... wrote:
It's traditional to do both, is it not?



:this:

_________________
MetalAngel wrote:
Kovacs: From 'unresponsive' to 'kebab' in 3.5 seconds


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: 11.11.11
PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 12:24 
User avatar
Can't re-member

Joined: 27th Mar, 2008
Posts: 55221
Location: Liberty City
Sorry Gnomes, but to say having been to a few services compares with what the WWI veterans went through is a bit churlish, to say the least.

That's the way it comes across, anyway.

_________________
I am currently under construction.
Thank you for your patience.


Image


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: 11.11.11
PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 12:25 
User avatar
That Rev Chap

Joined: 31st Mar, 2008
Posts: 4924
Location: Kent
I forgot all about this. I've got a poppy, though.

_________________
InvertY


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: 11.11.11
PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 12:26 

Joined: 30th Mar, 2008
Posts: 8679
Kovacs Caprios wrote:
Grim... wrote:
It's traditional to do both, is it not?



:this:


Well it isn't. It was MOVED to the Sunday in 1939 to avoid productivity loss. Breaking a work day for it as well is no more than a decade old and coincides with my actual point, that of silence inflation where your pet cause is too good for a 1 minute so you have 2.... or 3....

myoptika wrote:
Sorry Gnomes, but to say having been to a few services compares with what the WWI veterans went through is a bit churlish, to say the least.

That's the way it comes across, anyway.


But 4 minutes silence a year does compare?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: 11.11.11
PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 12:26 
SupaMod
User avatar
Est. 1978

Joined: 27th Mar, 2008
Posts: 68185
Location: Your Mum
Dudley wrote:
But 4 minutes silence a year does compare?

No, but I don't think many people think it does.

_________________
Grim... wrote:
I wish Craster had left some girls for the rest of us.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: 11.11.11
PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 12:27 
User avatar
Level 2 Wood Gimp

Joined: 27th Mar, 2008
Posts: 46850
Location: In a damp cave
It's a simple mark of respect.

_________________
Flickr Behance Discogs

'Not without talent but dragged down by bass turgidity'


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: 11.11.11
PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 12:27 

Joined: 30th Mar, 2008
Posts: 8679
So why is that any less "Ignorant fuck" than Comical's, who's made more effort than a lifetime of 2/4 minutes.

EDIT : I just don't think it remotely justified that vitriol.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: 11.11.11
PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 12:27 
User avatar
Not to be confused with elbow

Joined: 20th Aug, 2008
Posts: 4517
Location: Wales, boyo!
It's more the point of keeping remembering I think Duds imo, rather than just saying 'I did 14 hours or so and that'll tide me over nicely'

_________________
Decaf metal


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: 11.11.11
PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 12:28 
User avatar
Can't re-member

Joined: 27th Mar, 2008
Posts: 55221
Location: Liberty City
No, but it's a time for us to remember them. To say, 'I've done my time', inferring that you've had enough of remembering them is a bit insensitive, especially to those on here who had relatives who fought and died to keep us in booze and butter.

_________________
I am currently under construction.
Thank you for your patience.


Image


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: 11.11.11
PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 12:29 
User avatar
Not to be confused with elbow

Joined: 20th Aug, 2008
Posts: 4517
Location: Wales, boyo!
Exactly :this: as that was my point also

_________________
Decaf metal


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: 11.11.11
PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 12:30 
User avatar
Legendary Boogeyman

Joined: 22nd Dec, 2010
Posts: 8175
Of course I respect the sacrifice made by millions of men and women in WWI, but as Dudley alluded, having a mandated time of silence at a specific time once a year is an entirely optional thing. I do seriously rebel against an opinion that failing to be silent at a specific time and date somehow constitutes and insult to people who died. People can do it if they like, but you can fuck off with your righteous attitude about what should be done and when. I'll pay my respects in my own way at a time and in a manner of my own choosing.

By saying I did my time, I mean I've made my contribution to the service over the years, and don't feel terribly bad about sitting at home on the Sunday closest to the 11th of November every year from here on out.

_________________
Mr Kissyfur wrote:
Pretty much everyone agrees with Gnomes, really, it's just some are too right on to admit it. :)


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: 11.11.11
PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 12:33 
SupaMod
User avatar
Est. 1978

Joined: 27th Mar, 2008
Posts: 68185
Location: Your Mum
ComicalGnomes wrote:
By saying I did my time, I mean I've made my contribution to the service over the years, and don't feel terribly bad about sitting at home on the Sunday closest to the 11th of November every year from here on out.

Well that's very very different. I thought (as did we all, I think (unintentional BS:G moment)) that you thought you didn't owe the veterans anything because walking in the cold was comparable.
I was wondering.

_________________
Grim... wrote:
I wish Craster had left some girls for the rest of us.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: 11.11.11
PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 12:34 

Joined: 30th Mar, 2008
Posts: 8679
I didn't think that.

Mostly Com's post, with the addition that I hate poppy fascism. Th number of complaints the BBC gets anytime they don't drape every single piece of output in it for several weeks is astonishing. They had a large one next to the time on the sodding WEATHER this year ffs. If and when I've contributed to any charity I don't feel the need to go thrusting that in everyone's face and neither should the presenters on the BBC be effectively force to.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: 11.11.11
PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 12:35 
SupaMod
User avatar
Est. 1978

Joined: 27th Mar, 2008
Posts: 68185
Location: Your Mum
Dudley wrote:
I hate poppy fascism

Oh God, this. If people want to wear them they shouldn't be stopped, but if they don't, well, they don't.

_________________
Grim... wrote:
I wish Craster had left some girls for the rest of us.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: 11.11.11
PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 12:35 
User avatar
Legendary Boogeyman

Joined: 22nd Dec, 2010
Posts: 8175
This is why it's good to clarify things before storming on in calling people ignorant fucks, you risk making yourself look very silly. Given this is supposed to be an intelligent forum of intelligent people, it's the reaction I'd not expect to see first.

_________________
Mr Kissyfur wrote:
Pretty much everyone agrees with Gnomes, really, it's just some are too right on to admit it. :)


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: 11.11.11
PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 12:36 
User avatar
Not to be confused with elbow

Joined: 20th Aug, 2008
Posts: 4517
Location: Wales, boyo!
I don't wear a poppy, but I do give money

_________________
Decaf metal


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: 11.11.11
PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 12:37 
User avatar
Legendary Boogeyman

Joined: 22nd Dec, 2010
Posts: 8175
Dudley wrote:
I didn't think that.

Mostly Com's post, with the addition that I hate poppy fascism. Th number of complaints the BBC gets anytime they don't drape every single piece of output in it for several weeks is astonishing. They had a large one next to the time on the sodding WEATHER this year ffs. If and when I've contributed to any charity I don't feel the need to go thrusting that in everyone's face and neither should the presenters on the BBC be effectively force to.

This country is at risk of being so caught up in the tradition and protocol of the event that the whole point is almost missed.

_________________
Mr Kissyfur wrote:
Pretty much everyone agrees with Gnomes, really, it's just some are too right on to admit it. :)


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: 11.11.11
PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 12:37 
SupaMod
User avatar
Est. 1978

Joined: 27th Mar, 2008
Posts: 68185
Location: Your Mum
Can't blame me if you said one thing and meant another. If we all waited for 'clarification' nothing would ever get said.

_________________
Grim... wrote:
I wish Craster had left some girls for the rest of us.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: 11.11.11
PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 12:38 
User avatar
Can't re-member

Joined: 27th Mar, 2008
Posts: 55221
Location: Liberty City
Grim... wrote:
Well that's very very different. I thought (as did we all, I think (unintentional BS:G moment)) that you thought you didn't owe the veterans anything because walking in the cold was comparable.
I was wondering.


Yeah, which is why I said, 'it's how it came across', rather than what he actually meant.

_________________
I am currently under construction.
Thank you for your patience.


Image


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: 11.11.11
PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 12:39 
User avatar
I forgot about this - how vain

Joined: 30th Mar, 2008
Posts: 5978
......


Mr Chris wrote:
Dudley wrote:
Don't forget Comical, 4 minutes is the exact right amount of silence. Any more is not required, but a second less and you're disrespecting Britain!

Tell you what - next year, why don't you go along to the Cenotaph and yell that at the assembled veterans? They clearly need educating.

There's cynicism and then there's just being an insensitive smart-arse for the sake of getting a reaction.


Is it 4 minutes now? Thats one for each of the living veterans. I can give them that. (Though I only did one minute)

I find it staggering that there are people alive who lived in the 19th century. If mankind had a better grasp of time then I think we behave better as a species. Thats why stuff like this is so important.

The oldest one is 113. If the people he meets today tell that story when they are 113 then that direct touch of the story will have lasted 200 years. 2114 and 1914 separated by only one person. It boogles the mind.

I don't really mention it because people just put it down to my atheism, but I really don't like using the BC/AD calendar. I think we should have a date system that goes back as far as the first known civilisation (roughly at least). Dates and things like 11.11.11 really bring home how short the little experiment that is the human race has been.

_________________
Curiosity wrote:
The Rev Owen wrote:
Is there a way to summon lave?

Faith schools, scientologists and 2-D platform games.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: 11.11.11
PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 12:40 
User avatar
Legendary Boogeyman

Joined: 22nd Dec, 2010
Posts: 8175
Grim... wrote:
Can't blame me if you said one thing and meant another. If we all waited for 'clarification' nothing would ever get said.

Ah yes, quite unreasonable of me to blame you for your overreaction, really. What was I thinking?

_________________
Mr Kissyfur wrote:
Pretty much everyone agrees with Gnomes, really, it's just some are too right on to admit it. :)


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: 11.11.11
PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 12:41 
SupaMod
User avatar
Est. 1978

Joined: 27th Mar, 2008
Posts: 68185
Location: Your Mum
Well, was it an overreaction? I haven't clarified exactly what I meant by it, yet.

_________________
Grim... wrote:
I wish Craster had left some girls for the rest of us.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: 11.11.11
PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 12:41 
User avatar
Legendary Boogeyman

Joined: 22nd Dec, 2010
Posts: 8175
Sigh.

_________________
Mr Kissyfur wrote:
Pretty much everyone agrees with Gnomes, really, it's just some are too right on to admit it. :)


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: 11.11.11
PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 12:42 
SupaMod
User avatar
Est. 1978

Joined: 27th Mar, 2008
Posts: 68185
Location: Your Mum
Lave wrote:
The oldest one is 113.

He, like the wife's great great aunt, has lived in the 19th, 20th and 21st centuries!

_________________
Grim... wrote:
I wish Craster had left some girls for the rest of us.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: 11.11.11
PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 12:43 
User avatar
gooby pls

Joined: 30th Mar, 2008
Posts: 13014
Location: Shropshire, UK
I disagree with the vast majority of minute silences (and silence inflation, as Duds put it) but the one for Remembrance Day is one I will always be behind. Despite none of my family actually being killed/injured in war, it's just respectful for the many millions of people that have died fighting to preserve the freedoms that we (and seemingly, our Government :P) take foregranted.

_________________
Mostly pointless witterings of a fool. gazchap.com
Source Design - Graphic Design and Web Design Shropshire


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: 11.11.11
PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 12:43 
User avatar
Can't re-member

Joined: 27th Mar, 2008
Posts: 55221
Location: Liberty City
To be fair, this is what happened:

  • You said something a bit insensitive
  • Grim... reacted angrily
  • You clarified your comments
  • Grim... said, 'Phew, ok then'

I'm not sure he'd have reacted the same way if you'd explained things a bit better.

_________________
I am currently under construction.
Thank you for your patience.


Image


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: 11.11.11
PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 12:44 
User avatar

Joined: 30th Mar, 2008
Posts: 32573
If everyone can chill out, I recommend this thoughtful article on the hundreds of soldiers who died in WWI between the armistice being signed (at about 5am) and coming into force (at 11am). The poor, poor guys.

Oh, and I must admit I'm not wearing a poppy this year, although I've plonked a few donations in the tins. I always end up stabbing myself on the damned pin; one year I'll remember to go buy a safety pin.

Lave wrote:
I find it staggering that there are people alive who lived in the 19th century. If mankind had a better grasp of time then I think we behave better as a species. Thats why stuff like this is so important.
Consider this. The Gunfight at the OK Corral was in 1881 -- only a little over thirty years before the start of WWI.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: 11.11.11
PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 12:44 
User avatar
Not to be confused with elbow

Joined: 20th Aug, 2008
Posts: 4517
Location: Wales, boyo!
That's fair, I would have reacted in the same way as Grim...as you didn't explain what you meant very well

_________________
Decaf metal


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: 11.11.11
PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 12:46 
User avatar
INFINITE POWAH

Joined: 1st Apr, 2008
Posts: 30498
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
If everyone can chill out, I recommend this thoughtful article on the hundreds of soldiers who died in WWI between the armistice being signed (at about 5am) and coming into force (at 11am). The poor, poor guys.


Yes, there was a documentary about that last week. It was very sad indeed. I then watched Hislop's doc last night on 4 about the conscientious objectors. Also quite sad, in its own way.

_________________
http://www.thehomeofawesome.com/
Eagles soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines.


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Reply to topic  [ 238 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2, 3, 4, 5  Next

All times are UTC [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Columbo, Majestic-12 [Bot], Vogons and 0 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search within this thread:
You are using the 'Ted' forum. Bill doesn't really exist any more. Bogus!
Want to help out with the hosting / advertising costs? That's very nice of you.
Are you on a mobile phone? Try http://beex.co.uk/m/
RIP, Owen.

Powered by a very Grim... version of phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group.