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The bits with Jericho, Yaz, and Dan travelling the world were brilliant, and the guru was the comic highlight.
Too many loose ends to tie up next week, and I still don't care about the Timeless Child stuff (I bet the fob watch gets destroyed/stolen/eaten by SpaceDog), but I'm having a blast and loving it.

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I love the idea of using an angel as a transport.

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Jericho's dignified ending
The Sontaran Sugar Solution
The triple Doctor - worked really well storywise and was fun to see the Doc's vanity manifest itself
Bell and Vinder got their happy ending

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So the Flux was sucked into Passenger, which is great, but, er, does that mean the universe
SpaceDog got over his post-genocide traumatic stress pretty quickly. But we didn't see it happen, and would have been just as acceptable for that line to have been a Sontaran mind trick and not kill the dogs.
I'd like to see the Ruth Doctor again but I'm glad the fob watch was thrown into the depths of the Tardis and hopefully we'll never get any more origin stories again.
Oh, and just a little thing, which probably doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things and all, but even though all the little lights of the Flux was swallowed up by Passenger, there's still the problem that 99.9% of the universe is missing.

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I loved that they did not explain if or how the universe was back. I am sure they will.

or

just not and let the internet nerds explode, as it was not all explained.

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I've never liked the gemstone Tardis, and was quite annoyed that it kept that look after rebuilding itself.

A few clunky lines, especially regarding Yaz's crush, but nothing that took me out of the moment. Not sure Daleks should be given exposition, however - they struggle with any material longer than a simple imperative.

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No ship, Sherlock!

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No ship, Sherlock!

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David Tennant
Catherine Tate
And Bernard Cribbins

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No ship, Sherlock!

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Holy fucking shit! I was not expecting Tennant!
Think I need a while to calm down and take it all in

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So according to the BBC article I've just read, Tennant isn't just doing a cameo. He's officially the 14th Doctor for 3 episodes. Amazing.

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Sacha Dhawan stole the show. His performance was superb: batshit malevolence at its finest. And having him play Rasputin was a genius idea, and a worryingly plausible explanation for the Mad Monk's grip on the Romanovs. But it was topped by his musical number.

I felt the initial meeting of the Doc with Tegan and Ace lacked the emotional impact of when 10 met Sarah-Jane, but it was fun seeing them and both were clearly relishing the roles, especially Sophie Aldred. The interaction with their holographic Doctors was charming.

UNIT remains a dysfunctional organisation and toxic workplace.

In the dream sequence, I squeed when 8 appeared, and loved his comment that he doesn't do robes. For someone with about five minutes of screen time in the entire run of NuWho, it's amazing how dam good McGann is as the Doc, and how we need that Eighth Doctor spin-off.

No Space Dog, alas, but the Ruth Doctor was remains a commanding force even as a hologram.

And I'm still reeling from the ending. Totally unexpected.

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Loved the new Tardis, and Tennant's fanboyish glee in running around it.

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Proper scary haunted house in space. Loved the fact that we learnt what was going on along with the Doc & Donna.

I was so sure they were going to kill the real Donna and bracing myself for the gut punch.

The gut punch happened when Wilf came back.

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15 is going to be "pulled" back in time to meet 14. The version of 15 we meet will already be experienced and comfortable in their skin meaning 15 will be the confident, in control one and 14 will be the youngster. They will show 15's origin in a later story.

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The Toymaker's entrance to UNIT HQ was fantastic!

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Author:	KovacsC [ Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:54 ]
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I guess it is the age difference she is over 1000 years old

Author:	Kern [ Mon Nov 22, 2021 14:52 ]
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DavPaz wrote: There's absolutely too much exposition through people just bloody talking! That was my main complaint over the past two series but I haven't noticed it as much now.

Author:	Malc [ Sat Nov 27, 2021 19:24 ]
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A card on Google Now from a news paper I don't trust has said that the new Doctor is going to be played by: ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view! Helena Bonham Carter No idea if true, not sure how I feel if it is true. I find they are a little like Jim Carey in that I can't stand the vast majority of his work, but there are a few gems that are among some of my favourite films. I'm hoping for the latter, but fearing the former. (If true)

Author:	DavPaz [ Sat Nov 27, 2021 21:18 ]
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I see it for a one-off special maybe, but not long term

Author:	Kern [ Sun Nov 28, 2021 21:54 ]
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Penultimate episode! Still enjoying it, and the energy is still there. ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view! The bits with Jericho, Yaz, and Dan travelling the world were brilliant, and the guru was the comic highlight. Too many loose ends to tie up next week, and I still don't care about the Timeless Child stuff (I bet the fob watch gets destroyed/stolen/eaten by SpaceDog), but I'm having a blast and loving it.

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Author:	KovacsC [ Mon Nov 29, 2021 11:14 ]
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I did like 'Are you from Liverpool. you never mention it'. I will rewatch it again today. ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view! I love the idea of using an angel as a transport.

Author:	KovacsC [ Sun Dec 05, 2021 22:26 ]
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Not my words but sums it up. A very sombre, measured series finale (or prequel to the 2022 specials depending on one's personal opinion). It was heartbreaking for Karvanista, the loss of his race, the way Jericho stoically accepted his fate was also very moving. I think we built up the characters of Bel and Vinder to be more important than they turned out to be because the series kept us guessing to its finale and there was so many fan theories flying round the internet. I do think they might return to the Whoniverse as is the case with the Grand Serpent. We needed some humour and we got that with our chocoholic Sontaran caught with his hand in the sweet jar.

Author:	Kern [ Mon Dec 06, 2021 8:43 ]
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Hmmm.. mixed bag this one. It was fast paced, and after a long day of board gaming it was fun to unwind to. Stuff I liked: ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view! Jericho's dignified ending The Sontaran Sugar Solution The triple Doctor - worked really well storywise and was fun to see the Doc's vanity manifest itself Bell and Vinder got their happy ending Stuff I didn't like ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view! So the Flux was sucked into Passenger, which is great, but, er, does that mean the universe SpaceDog got over his post-genocide traumatic stress pretty quickly. But we didn't see it happen, and would have been just as acceptable for that line to have been a Sontaran mind trick and not kill the dogs. I'd like to see the Ruth Doctor again but I'm glad the fob watch was thrown into the depths of the Tardis and hopefully we'll never get any more origin stories again. Oh, and just a little thing, which probably doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things and all, but even though all the little lights of the Flux was swallowed up by Passenger, there's still the problem that 99.9% of the universe is missing. I hope there's a SpaceDog spin-off in the works.

Author:	KovacsC [ Mon Dec 06, 2021 10:46 ]
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Kern wrote: Stuff I didn't like ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view! So the Flux was sucked into Passenger, which is great, but, er, does that mean the universe SpaceDog got over his post-genocide traumatic stress pretty quickly. But we didn't see it happen, and would have been just as acceptable for that line to have been a Sontaran mind trick and not kill the dogs. I'd like to see the Ruth Doctor again but I'm glad the fob watch was thrown into the depths of the Tardis and hopefully we'll never get any more origin stories again. Oh, and just a little thing, which probably doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things and all, but even though all the little lights of the Flux was swallowed up by Passenger, there's still the problem that 99.9% of the universe is missing. ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view! I loved that they did not explain if or how the universe was back. I am sure they will. or just not and let the internet nerds explode, as it was not all explained.

Author:	Kern [ Sun Jan 02, 2022 9:03 ]
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Eve of the Daleks I enjoyed that. An interesting piece of plotting with a satisfying solution. It was fun, and that's all I really need this time of year. ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view! I've never liked the gemstone Tardis, and was quite annoyed that it kept that look after rebuilding itself. A few clunky lines, especially regarding Yaz's crush, but nothing that took me out of the moment. Not sure Daleks should be given exposition, however - they struggle with any material longer than a simple imperative.

Author:	KovacsC [ Sun Jan 02, 2022 9:18 ]
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Kern wrote: Eve of the Daleks I enjoyed that. An interesting piece of plotting with a satisfying solution. It was fun, and that's all I really need this time of year. ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view! I've never liked the gemstone Tardis, and was quite annoyed that it kept that look after rebuilding itself. A few clunky lines, especially regarding Yaz's crush, but nothing that took me out of the moment. Not sure Daleks should be given exposition, however - they struggle with any material longer than a simple imperative. It kept me amused. The time loop stuff was a great idea done well.

Author:	Kern [ Tue Apr 19, 2022 7:11 ]
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Legend of the Sea Devils I was away over the weekend and didn't even realise there was an Easter special until it appeared on the front page of the Iplayer. Which is probably just as well, given how much of an utter mess it is. It's certainly a visual treat, with lavish historical sets and costuming, although the sci-fi bits looked like they'd been hauled from O'Brien-era Crystal Maze and were a heck of let down compared to the rest of the design. There's definitely good ideas here, but no actual development or progression but just endless jumps from issue to resolution to another issue to another resolution. It's as if someone just had to idea to take one of the long serials from the classic series and chop together the first and last 3 minutes of each episode. Kids probably won't care about this and just enjoy the spectacle (pirate ships! sword fights! cannonballs!) but it left me a bit empty. The highlight was the single best pun I've heard on TV all year: ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view! Quote: No ship, Sherlock!

Author:	Malc [ Tue Apr 19, 2022 9:00 ]
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Kern wrote: Legend of the Sea Devils I was away over the weekend and didn't even realise there was an Easter special until it appeared on the front page of the Iplayer. Which is probably just as well, given how much of an utter mess it is. It's certainly a visual treat, with lavish historical sets and costuming, although the sci-fi bits looked like they'd been hauled from O'Brien-era Crystal Maze and were a heck of let down compared to the rest of the design. There's definitely good ideas here, but no actual development or progression but just endless jumps from issue to resolution to another issue to another resolution. It's as if someone just had to idea to take one of the long serials from the classic series and chop together the first and last 3 minutes of each episode. Kids probably won't care about this and just enjoy the spectacle (pirate ships! sword fights! cannonballs!) but it left me a bit empty. The highlight was the single best pun I've heard on TV all year: ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view! Quote: No ship, Sherlock! And the acting from the supporting cast was some of the worst I've ever seen on the BBC. The writing wasn't much better. John Bishop is still really bad too.

Author:	DavPaz [ Tue Apr 19, 2022 9:08 ]
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Cone on, let's all be honest with ourselves. Doctor Who has been shit for years

Author:	zaphod79 [ Thu Jun 15, 2023 11:13 ]
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I almost want to attach an NSFW tag to this as it contains the images from the magazine Quote: " For his Vogue portrait, however, he wore much less – nothing at all, in fact, in a tribute to Jeanloup Sieff’s iconic shot of a nude Yves Saint Laurent, for the designer’s Pour Homme fragrance campaign in 1971. " Ncuti Gatwa On Barbie, Doctor Who And Baring It All In British Vogue https://www.vogue.co.uk/article/ncuti-g ... -interview I cant wait for the new season and he's going to be a great Doctor

Author:	Mimi [ Thu Jun 15, 2023 12:10 ]
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Iconic.

Author:	zaphod79 [ Tue Jul 11, 2023 16:11 ]
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New rolling stone interview with Ncuti https://www.rollingstone.co.uk/tv/ncuti ... bie-31011/

Author:	Kern [ Tue Apr 19, 2022 18:18 ]
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I miss Space Dog.

Author:	BikNorton [ Tue Apr 19, 2022 20:09 ]
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"Space Dog and Scarfman in the Infinite Timebox" has got box office written all over it.

Author:	Dr Zoidberg [ Tue Apr 19, 2022 21:01 ]
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DavPaz wrote: Cone on, let's all be honest with ourselves. Doctor Who has been shit for years It’s always been really variable in quality. There are some superb episodes, some absolute shite, and a bunch of “ok” in the middle. It gets treated with far more lenience than most other shows would be, for reasons…. Capaldi didn’t get many great stories to work with, and Whittaker hasn’t had any that I can remember.

Author:	MaliA [ Tue Apr 19, 2022 21:12 ]
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Dr Zoidberg wrote: DavPaz wrote: Cone on, let's all be honest with ourselves. Doctor Who has been shit for years It’s always been really variable in quality. There are some superb episodes, some absolute shite, and a bunch of “ok” in the middle. It gets treated with far more lenience than most other shows would be, for reasons…. Capaldi didn’t get many great stories to work with, and Whittaker hasn’t had any that I can remember. Been really shit since early Capaldi

Author:	Mimi [ Tue Apr 19, 2022 21:25 ]
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MaliA wrote: Dr Zoidberg wrote: DavPaz wrote: Cone on, let's all be honest with ourselves. Doctor Who has been shit for years It’s always been really variable in quality. There are some superb episodes, some absolute shite, and a bunch of “ok” in the middle. It gets treated with far more lenience than most other shows would be, for reasons…. Capaldi didn’t get many great stories to work with, and Whittaker hasn’t had any that I can remember. Been really shit since early Capaldi We stopped watching with Capaldi.

Author:	Dr Zoidberg [ Tue Apr 19, 2022 21:27 ]
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MaliA wrote: Dr Zoidberg wrote: DavPaz wrote: Cone on, let's all be honest with ourselves. Doctor Who has been shit for years It’s always been really variable in quality. There are some superb episodes, some absolute shite, and a bunch of “ok” in the middle. It gets treated with far more lenience than most other shows would be, for reasons…. Capaldi didn’t get many great stories to work with, and Whittaker hasn’t had any that I can remember. Been really shit since early Capaldi Crikey, that was 8 years ago! That’s another thing. Why do they struggle to put out ten episodes a year?

Author:	Mimi [ Tue Apr 19, 2022 21:35 ]
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I’m still waiting for a new Sherlock to drop

Author:	zaphod79 [ Mon May 16, 2022 22:52 ]
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I'll stick this in spoiler tags as its casting news - they have been filming some scenes for the 60th anniversary in London and pictures on set show : ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view! David Tennant Catherine Tate And Bernard Cribbins

Author:	Kern [ Sat Oct 22, 2022 17:57 ]
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Probably a worrying symptom of how this show has fallen off my cultural radar (through no fault on the part of Whittaker I hasten to add) but I've only just remembered that there's a 90 minute special tomorrow. I think you have just realised this too.

Author:	Kern [ Sat Oct 22, 2022 18:17 ]
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Kern wrote: Legend of the Sea Devils ... The highlight was the single best pun I've heard on TV all year: ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view! Quote: No ship, Sherlock! To illustrate my point, I actually forgot I even watched this, let alone posted about it. Still, it is a dam good pun. If we don't get at least 50 minutes of Space Dog I will be very disappointed.

Author:	Kern [ Sun Oct 23, 2022 21:16 ]
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ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view! Holy fucking shit! I was not expecting Tennant! Think I need a while to calm down and take it all in

Author:	Dr Zoidberg [ Sun Oct 23, 2022 22:26 ]
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I wasn’t expecting Ian.

Author:	DavPaz [ Sun Oct 23, 2022 23:52 ]
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"What?" That's how you do a cliffhanger

Author:	DavPaz [ Mon Oct 24, 2022 7:46 ]
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ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view! So according to the BBC article I've just read, Tennant isn't just doing a cameo. He's officially the 14th Doctor for 3 episodes. Amazing.

Author:	Kern [ Mon Oct 24, 2022 8:46 ]
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Still reeling from this. Will probably watch it again at some point but I really enjoyed it the ride. ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view! Sacha Dhawan stole the show. His performance was superb: batshit malevolence at its finest. And having him play Rasputin was a genius idea, and a worryingly plausible explanation for the Mad Monk's grip on the Romanovs. But it was topped by his musical number. I felt the initial meeting of the Doc with Tegan and Ace lacked the emotional impact of when 10 met Sarah-Jane, but it was fun seeing them and both were clearly relishing the roles, especially Sophie Aldred. The interaction with their holographic Doctors was charming. UNIT remains a dysfunctional organisation and toxic workplace. In the dream sequence, I squeed when 8 appeared, and loved his comment that he doesn't do robes. For someone with about five minutes of screen time in the entire run of NuWho, it's amazing how dam good McGann is as the Doc, and how we need that Eighth Doctor spin-off. No Space Dog, alas, but the Ruth Doctor was remains a commanding force even as a hologram. And I'm still reeling from the ending. Totally unexpected.

Author:	zaphod79 [ Wed Nov 01, 2023 12:46 ]
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The Whoniverse is live from today , so basically all (existing) classic Who on the Iplayer (except the very first story) , all of new Who , and the spinoffs , plus some special 'Tales of the Tardis' with classic shows with some new 'in character' spots from the people involved (not watched any yet but have the first one set to go)

Author:	Kern [ Wed Nov 01, 2023 14:08 ]
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zaphod79 wrote: The Whoniverse is live from today , so basically all (existing) classic Who on the Iplayer (except the very first story) , all of new Who , and the spinoffs , plus some special 'Tales of the Tardis' with classic shows with some new 'in character' spots from the people involved (not watched any yet but have the first one set to go) Just taken a look - that's a heck of a lot. Impressed that they are including the animated recreations of the missing episodes! I think I'll enjoy dipping into some old stories across the Doctors whilst they're available, sightseeing the must-sees rather than watching sequentially!

Author:	Kern [ Wed Nov 01, 2023 19:12 ]
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Quote: sightseeing I've just arbitrarily started the Enemy of the World (s5) and within 3 minutes Patrick Troughton has already stripped down to his underthings.

Author:	Kern [ Thu Nov 23, 2023 13:10 ]
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Fun excerpt from the Radiolympia archives on the ever-wonderful Transdiffusion today.

Author:	Kern [ Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:06 ]
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Watched the first episode of the new era with a massive grin throughout. There was a sense of joy throughout and really felt like the cast and crew had never left. Looking forward to the rest, and to see how else they can use all that lovely Mouse money. ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view! Loved the new Tardis, and Tennant's fanboyish glee in running around it. (will probably add more to the spoiler/thread once I've rewatched it but for now just enjoying the glow)