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Author:  Dr Lave [ Sat May 31, 2008 19:49 ]
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Fuck me that was fucking brilliant Dr Who.

That must have been Moffat right? Soooo glad he's taking over.

Author:  GazChap [ Sat May 31, 2008 21:35 ]
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Yes, it was Moffat. Only bit I didn't like about it was the repetition of certain lines. "Donna Noble is no longer in the library. Donna Noble has been saved." being the main one. There's no reason for the "computer" to say that more than once.

Author:  MaliA [ Sat May 31, 2008 21:39 ]
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GazChap wrote:
Yes, it was Moffat. Only bit I didn't like about it was the repetition of certain lines. "Donna Noble is no longer in the library. Donna Noble has been saved." being the main one. There's no reason for the "computer" to say that more than once.


There is if it's an echo.

Author:  chinnyhill10 [ Sat May 31, 2008 23:11 ]
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Now that was more like it. Liked the Four To Doomsday style security camera as well.

Author:  CraigGrannell [ Sat May 31, 2008 23:45 ]
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Moffat has now managed to scare the shit out of kids re: statues, shadows, libraries, and being inside their own heads. Next: the Doctor vs. cracks in the pavement. And it'd still be a fine episode, too.

Author:  NervousPete [ Sun Jun 01, 2008 2:21 ]
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Haven't seen it yet, looking forward to it later.

CraigGrannell wrote:
Next: the Doctor vs. cracks in the pavement. And it'd still be a fine episode, too.


I wouldn't be surprised if he actually did this and it was indeed awesome. Really, I'd reckon quite a high chance on him doing it.

Author:  GovernmentYard [ Sun Jun 01, 2008 3:11 ]
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GazChap wrote:
Only bit I didn't like about it was the repetition of certain lines. "Donna Noble is no longer in the library. Donna Noble has been saved." being the main one. There's no reason for the "computer" to say that more than once.


Yeah, there's no reason at all for it to repeat. But it does. Creepy, eh? Very Stephen Moffat.

Author:  GazChap [ Sun Jun 01, 2008 11:38 ]
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It's creepy enough seeing Donna's face stuck in a bit of concrete (echos of Love & Monsters, anyone?) without the repetition.

In previous Moffat episodes, the repetition has been spread out a bit. The "Are you my mummy?" repeat is in character with Jamie so I'm not bothered about that. "We did not have the parts" in Girl in the Fireplace is only repeated as an answer to another question. "Don't blink" is spread out throughout the episode... see what I mean?

The cracks on the pavement idea is genius, though. Be interesting to see what he'd do with that. Like, the paving slabs are actually sentient beings and the cracks are their way of breeding - i.e. they start off as one giant slab and, through mitosis, split up into lots of other slabs. Or something like that.

Author:  Derek The Halls [ Sun Jun 01, 2008 15:46 ]
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I think the girl 'ghosting' is one of the most incredible emotional moments in Doctor Who this series and possibly since Human Nature/Family of Blood.

Author:  Dr Lave [ Sun Jun 01, 2008 21:01 ]
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Just watched it again. It really is most excellent.

The
ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view!
Space Suit Skeleton Zombie
was brilliant. Would have scared the shit out of 8 year old me.

Author:  NervousPete [ Mon Jun 02, 2008 0:15 ]
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Nirejhenge wrote:
I think the girl 'ghosting' is one of the most incredible emotional moments in Doctor Who this series and possibly since Human Nature/Family of Blood.


:this:

I genuinely felt a bit chokey throughout that bit. A brilliant idea, and a very affecting one. :'(

I'm thrilled that this episode was a genuine avalanche of mysteries. The girl's world seemed quite strange as well, it had quite a dream like atmosphere. I loved it. Certainly the best so far this series, 5/5 from me.

Author:  Pundabaya [ Mon Jun 02, 2008 0:38 ]
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As I said ('in another place'- Ed), its got a very Matrix-y feel to it... I'm guessing that Donna will turn up in the girl's 'world', as it exists in the library computer. Being 'saved' literally means being saved, as in 'computer file'. I assume that there's some way of getting Donna out again.

Author:  AceAceBaby [ Mon Jun 02, 2008 8:40 ]
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Between the neural doodads and the library's storing of "flesh" (I guess "DNA and stuff") there seems to be plenty of scope for reconstituting people.

Author:  Derek The Halls [ Mon Jun 02, 2008 8:42 ]
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It would be incredibly brave to write out a major character like that but I doubt that's going to happen.

Author:  Ian Osborne [ Mon Jun 02, 2008 9:56 ]
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Pundabaya wrote:
As I said ('in another place'- Ed), its got a very Matrix-y feel to it... I'm guessing that Donna will turn up in the girl's 'world', as it exists in the library computer. Being 'saved' literally means being saved, as in 'computer file'. I assume that there's some way of getting Donna out again.

Donna can't die - she was in the trailer for the next episode, and not as a head on a stick either.

Author:  Dudley [ Mon Jun 02, 2008 10:14 ]
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And that's why I hate their stupid fucking trailers.

In the confidential show "I defy anyone to guess how ep 9 begins from seeing ep 8"

Oh well can you bastards, because you'll fucking show us.

Author:  Mr Dave [ Mon Jun 02, 2008 11:32 ]
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To be fair, even without a trailer, I can think of 2 obvious ways that they can get out of that situation.

Not including these alternatives:

David Tennant gurns his way to freedom.
They run away.

Author:  mrbogus [ Tue Jun 03, 2008 11:10 ]
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Pundabaya wrote:
As I said ('in another place'- Ed), its got a very Matrix-y feel to it...


Ghost in the Shell, I reckon. The "ghosting" idea is definitely borrowed from there.

Author:  Derek The Halls [ Tue Jun 03, 2008 12:30 ]
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What's the reason for 'ghosting' again?

Author:  BikNorton [ Tue Jun 03, 2008 12:33 ]
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Plot device to allow the zombie later on?

Author:  AceAceBaby [ Tue Jun 03, 2008 12:44 ]
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Nirejhenge wrote:
What's the reason for 'ghosting' again?


So The Doctor can jam his sonic screwdriver into a space suit neural link thinger and patch it into the library database to resurrect Donna. Or something.

Author:  chinnyhill10 [ Tue Jun 03, 2008 12:45 ]
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Ian Osborne wrote:
Pundabaya wrote:
As I said ('in another place'- Ed), its got a very Matrix-y feel to it... I'm guessing that Donna will turn up in the girl's 'world', as it exists in the library computer. Being 'saved' literally means being saved, as in 'computer file'. I assume that there's some way of getting Donna out again.

Donna can't die - she was in the trailer for the next episode, and not as a head on a stick either.


The "next week" promo is the worst idea since JNT tried that experimental laughter track in the 80's.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sK8GdRSzQJ0&feature=related

Author:  NervousPete [ Tue Jun 03, 2008 12:47 ]
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Nirejhenge wrote:
What's the reason for 'ghosting' again?


Wasn't it that the communicator had a clone of the speech part of the brain or something with a psychic link that could replicate voiced thoughts in the event of a besuited person being unable to call for help verbally. However, the 'pattern buffer' of the cloned brain part sometimes stores and loops information post death. I think that was it.

But yes, for poignant scene and zombie voice.

Author:  NervousPete [ Tue Jun 03, 2008 12:48 ]
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chinnyhill10 wrote:
[

The "next week" promo is the worst idea since JNT tried that experimental laughter track in the 8o's.


He didn't, did he? 8)

Author:  chinnyhill10 [ Tue Jun 03, 2008 12:49 ]
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nervouspete wrote:
chinnyhill10 wrote:
[

The "next week" promo is the worst idea since JNT tried that experimental laughter track in the 8o's.


He didn't, did he? 8)


Indeed he did.*

That link for a second time - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sK8GdRSzQJ0&feature=related


* This is a lie for comedy purposes.

Author:  NervousPete [ Tue Jun 03, 2008 12:58 ]
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Dang, wish I could watch You Tube in work. I am agog with curiosity. ("Oi!" - Curiosity.)

Author:  chinnyhill10 [ Tue Jun 03, 2008 13:03 ]
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nervouspete wrote:
Dang, wish I could watch You Tube in work. I am agog with curiosity. ("Oi!" - Curiosity.)


We won't spoil the surprise. But it is the most obvious laughter track addition to Who ever.

Author:  AceAceBaby [ Tue Jun 03, 2008 15:11 ]
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chinnyhill10 wrote:
Ian Osborne wrote:
Pundabaya wrote:
As I said ('in another place'- Ed), its got a very Matrix-y feel to it... I'm guessing that Donna will turn up in the girl's 'world', as it exists in the library computer. Being 'saved' literally means being saved, as in 'computer file'. I assume that there's some way of getting Donna out again.

Donna can't die - she was in the trailer for the next episode, and not as a head on a stick either.


The "next week" promo is the worst idea since JNT tried that experimental laughter track in the 80's.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sK8GdRSzQJ0&feature=related


OMG! hahahahahaha! :DD

Author:  chinnyhill10 [ Tue Jun 03, 2008 15:20 ]
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AceAceBaby wrote:
OMG! hahahahahaha! :DD


Actually I found out something more amusing today.

Apparently Les Dennis had an affair with Sophie Aldred. It's in his autobiography.

News of the Screws has more - http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/3003_les_dennis.shtml

Author:  NervousPete [ Tue Jun 03, 2008 15:35 ]
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chinnyhill10 wrote:
Apparently Les Dennis had an affair with Sophie Aldred. It's in his autobiography.

News of the Screws has more - http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/3003_les_dennis.shtml


NO! :'(

Author:  Dr Lave [ Tue Jun 03, 2008 15:41 ]
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Donna wasn't in the "next week on" trailer. I eneded up watching the show twice and she's definitely not there. Obviously she's alive though.

Here's my guess (spoilered because I'm super awesome and so 1000% right):

ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view!
She's been saved by the library and what not and will go and visit the girl - but at some point of the episode all this fazing in and out will make her go see Rose!

Author:  chinnyhill10 [ Tue Jun 03, 2008 16:09 ]
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nervouspete wrote:
chinnyhill10 wrote:
Apparently Les Dennis had an affair with Sophie Aldred. It's in his autobiography.

News of the Screws has more - http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/3003_les_dennis.shtml


NO! :'(


Nothing wrong with a bit of Les action.

Author:  Mr Dave [ Tue Jun 03, 2008 16:21 ]
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*Gets picture of Chinny that he doesn't know I have*
*Gets picture of Les Dennis*
*Photoshops them into a comprimising situation*
*Emails the news of the world with a 'tell all' story*

Author:  chinnyhill10 [ Tue Jun 03, 2008 16:42 ]
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Mr Dave wrote:
*Gets picture of Chinny that he doesn't know I have*


What pose am I in?

There is only 1 officially sanctioned pose I have for photos.

Author:  Mr Dave [ Tue Jun 03, 2008 16:51 ]
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Sitting on a wall(?) with your right leg on top of the wall, and your left leg dangling over. Your right elbow resting on your right leg, with your right arm in turn supporting your head, chin in hand, hand with index finger out, left hand resting on left leg.

Fear my stalking abilities.

(I fail to see how I'm going to fit Les in though.)

Author:  chinnyhill10 [ Tue Jun 03, 2008 16:59 ]
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Mr Dave wrote:
Fear my stalking abilities.



I do indeed fear them.

Author:  Mr Dave [ Tue Jun 03, 2008 17:08 ]
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So... about this blackmail money....

Author:  Agent Starling [ Tue Jun 03, 2008 17:14 ]
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chinnyhill10 wrote:
nervouspete wrote:
chinnyhill10 wrote:
[

The "next week" promo is the worst idea since JNT tried that experimental laughter track in the 8o's.


He didn't, did he? 8)


Indeed he did.*

That link for a second time - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sK8GdRSzQJ0&feature=related


* This is a lie for comedy purposes.


Oh my! That is just superb! :D

Author:  Dr Lave [ Tue Jun 03, 2008 17:19 ]
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Also - am I the only one to notice that the library was fitted with (WoS favourite) apple keyboards? (the new flat style ones).

For some reason it kept making me think of Craig Charle's memorable keyboard use in this.

Author:  tossrStu [ Tue Jun 03, 2008 19:10 ]
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chinnyhill10 wrote:
Mr Dave wrote:
*Gets picture of Chinny that he doesn't know I have*


What pose am I in?

There is only 1 officially sanctioned pose I have for photos.


Image

?

Author:  chinnyhill10 [ Tue Jun 03, 2008 19:19 ]
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tossrStu wrote:
?


Here you go.

Image

Author:  chinnyhill10 [ Tue Jun 03, 2008 19:25 ]
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Mr Dave wrote:
So... about this blackmail money....


I have no money, but you can touch the shiny special Jesus computer when it arrives.

I'm told it gives you a nice warm glow otherwise knows as "smugness". It also heals the sick and lame.

Author:  Mr Dave [ Tue Jun 03, 2008 19:43 ]
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This sounds like a reasonable compromise.

Author:  chinnyhill10 [ Tue Jun 03, 2008 20:40 ]
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It gets better.

Appararently Tennant is "stepping out" with Peter Davisons daughter.

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/showbiz/a97311/tennant-dates-doctor-who-daughter.html

Isn't that like Timelord incest?

Author:  NervousPete [ Tue Jun 03, 2008 21:05 ]
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chinnyhill10 wrote:
Isn't that like Timelord incest?


The Doctor/Tennant in court was later to give a feeble utterance of "Timeywimey" with a spherical wriggle of his hands when asked if he had anything to say in his defence.

Author:  devilman [ Tue Jun 03, 2008 21:47 ]
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chinnyhill10 wrote:
nervouspete wrote:
chinnyhill10 wrote:
Apparently Les Dennis had an affair with Sophie Aldred. It's in his autobiography.

News of the Screws has more - http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/3003_les_dennis.shtml


NO! :'(


Nothing wrong with a bit of Les action.


I don't think Amanda Holden agrees.

Author:  AceAceBaby [ Tue Jun 03, 2008 21:58 ]
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Lave wrote:
Also - am I the only one to notice that the library was fitted with (WoS favourite) apple keyboards? (the new flat style ones).

For some reason it kept making me think of Craig Charle's memorable keyboard use in this.


I noticed. :munkeh:

Author:  MrChris [ Tue Jun 03, 2008 22:27 ]
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chinnyhill10 wrote:
It gets better.

Appararently Tennant is "stepping out" with Peter Davisons daughter.

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/showbiz/a97311/tennant-dates-doctor-who-daughter.html

Isn't that like Timelord incest?

Peter Davison's daughter looks alot like Catherine Tate from the photo at the top of that article.

Oh.

Author:  Kern [ Sun Jun 08, 2008 10:10 ]
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Another excellent two-parter from Moffat. Made me wish I'd stayed awake in undergraduate philosophy tutorials.

Author:  Mimi [ Sun Jun 08, 2008 10:27 ]
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Lave wrote:
Also - am I the only one to notice that the library was fitted with (WoS favourite) apple keyboards? (the new flat style ones).

For some reason it kept making me think of Craig Charle's memorable keyboard use in this.


Craig noticed, but they looked too flat to me, unless they were sunk into the table. I have a mac keyboard, but it isn't that flat.

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