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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 15:17 
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says that the decay heat declines from 6.5% to 1% (of previous operating power) in the hour after shutdown. Beta-decay, not fission.
That's a troubling amount of heat energy to get rid of - especially if you've shut down because of a coolant circulation problem, say.
Well, Sizewell B (for example) runs at 1196 MW electrical output. Overall efficiency of a PWR is about 30% or so, so that suggests that immediately after a coolant release followed by a SCRAM you would have to deal with 259MW of heat generation.

...That suggests 700,000 kg of water, disregarding heat expansion of the water.



Ah, thanks for going to the trouble, that's a more comforting amount of water than I'd been assuming. So as you say, this particular scenario would have to depend on a few other things being wrong at the same time, as indeed was the case at TMI etc.

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Fission Gas Release, it's a key safety metric and has to be kept within tight parameters.

:shock: Sounds like it!

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Slightly off the end of my knowledge now, CANDU I know but EPR is new to me. I've got my excuses, how do you know so much about reactors?


As you can probably tell but charitably didn't imply, I don't really know very much about reactors, I just took an interest in some parts of them from a materials and engineering basis, and read a bit more than I could reasonably digest given my lack of physics background!
And, the EPR is the design promoted for future UK build, which as a RE guy I'm sort of naturally opposed to and a bit skeptical about.


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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/media/russell-t-davies-return-of-the-tea-time-lord-805255.html

Richard Dawkins is going to be in Dr Who! I love it when geeky interests collide.

(though as he was friends with Douglas Adams this doesn't really count.)

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 Post subject: Re: Doctor Who
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/media/russell-t-davies-return-of-the-tea-time-lord-805255.html

Richard Dawkins is going to be in Dr Who! I love it when geeky interests collide.

(though as he was friends with Douglas Adams this doesn't really count.)


Double-combo-link! Dawkins is also married to the lovely Lalla Ward of Romana fame.

What a shame Douglas Adams isn't around to do another script though. I think he would have had fun with the new style.

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Ah, thanks for going to the trouble
Any excuse to geek out, that's me.

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that's a more comforting amount of water than I'd been assuming. So as you say, this particular scenario would have to depend on a few other things being wrong at the same time, as indeed was the case at TMI etc.
It'll always be the case with any nuclear problem. There are so many layered redundant systems that a systematic failure is essentially impossible; the odds are far far lower than the chances of humankind being wiped out by an asteroid. On the other hand, the human factor has to be rigourously controlled, as this was the underlying cause of TMI and Chernobyl. The combat this with rigourous well-planned procedures. The office in Barnwood had when I worked there about a thousand dedicated safety engineering staff, at least half of them with PhDs, who literally just sat around all day thinking of stuff that could go wrong and what the procedure would be to correct it. It's an awe-inspiring amount of work.

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As you can probably tell but charitably didn't imply, I don't really know very much about reactors, I just took an interest in some parts of them from a materials and engineering basis, and read a bit more than I could reasonably digest given my lack of physics background!
I wasn't being charitable -- I'd say you know a hell of a lot more than most laymen, certainly way more than I would know if I hadn't worked in the industry. If you're interesting in the material science perspective, is very interesting -- crashing a plane into a sample of reactor wall at 800 km/h.

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And, the EPR is the design promoted for future UK build, which as a RE guy I'm sort of naturally opposed to and a bit skeptical about.
I've read up on EPR now, it's very similar to Sizewell B which I discuss above. It's an evolution of the PWR design type.


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 Post subject: Re: Doctor Who
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Not bad, Tate is less irritating than previously, but I still have my doubts about her. Wish she'd burst in to Nan occasionally, I mean when she was hanging onto the window cleaning station she could have at least given us a 'what a fucking liberty' or something.

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Bits of it I liked, other bits I didn't. Some bits were good (The mimed conversation through the window) others not so (Catherine Tate).

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 Post subject: Re: Doctor Who
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That's all very well, Richardgaywood and Kalmar, but what safety procedures are there against an armed Joe Don Baker and Bob Peck infiltrating a secret processing plant via abandoned Yorkshire mining works, eh? EH?

Or in stopping a panicky Jack Lemmon from pressing the wrong buttons in a tense hostage situation ironically presided to highlight deficient safety measures? Huh?

Or preventing a seven-reactor mega-powerstation on the slopes of Mount Fuji exploding and covering the entirity of Japan in multi-coloured radioactive smoke? Hum?

*Points if you can spot the vehicle of each cataclysm.

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That's all very well, Richardgaywood and Kalmar, but what safety procedures are there against an armed Joe Don Baker and Bob Peck infiltrating a secret processing plant via abandoned Yorkshire mining works, eh? EH?


Well quite! Analogous to TEH EVIL TERRORISTS in our modern paradigm, that.
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Or in stopping a panicky Jack Lemmon from pressing the wrong buttons in a tense hostage situation ironically presided to highlight deficient safety measures? Huh?

Human error. No accounting for that. China Syndrome innit.

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Or preventing a seven-reactor mega-powerstation on the slopes of Mount Fuji exploding and covering the entirity of Japan in multi-coloured radioactive smoke? Hum?

Err. Dunno, what was that one?

Japan did have a fairly bad accident recently though, to do with fuel handling rather than meltdown or anything though.

In 2001, no-one died.
In 2002, no-one died.
In 2003, no-one died.
In 2004, no-one died.
In 2005, no-one died.
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 Post subject: Re: Doctor Who
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The Japanese 7-reactor one was one of the vingettes in Akira Kurosawa's under-rated final film 'Dreams', which has some truly disturbing imagery involving fireballs melting the slopes of Mt. Fuji in the distant background and an entire population fleeing up and over a hill side in a futile effort to escape.

Contrary to pool-hall attendants 'half-glass full' mantra, everyone dies.

By the way - if you see the Cherenkov effect with your eyes, does that mean you're in trouble? Something one of you said earlier, about standing atop of something and seeing the soft twinkling blue light of minty fresh Cherenkov fun, or something.

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By the way - if you see the Cherenkov effect with your eyes, does that mean you're in trouble? Something one of you said earlier, about standing atop of something and seeing the soft twinkling blue light of minty fresh Cherenkov fun, or something.
Me, I said that. No, it's just light, and is quite safe to behold. Very very eerie blue glow that literally comes from nowhere. It was quite faint when I saw it, as the fuel was pretty old; they say that when the refuel Sizewell B (which involves taking the entire core to pieces submerged under 15m of boronated water) that it is so bright you could turn the lights off in the room and work by it.

I feel very priviledged to have seen it. It's a pretty rare effect.


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 Post subject: Re: Doctor Who
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Me, I said that. No, it's just light, and is quite safe to behold.


Of course readers, bear in mind that according to his avatar, it's a strange mutated man-monkey who's saying this.

Interesting stuff in truth, I think I recall a youtube video showing the effect. I wouldn't mind seeing it in real life. Think I'll sneak in and have a peek, I imagine they'll be pretty cheerily forgiving of my amusing trespassy curiosity.

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 Post subject: Re: Doctor Who
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Of course readers, bear in mind that according to his avatar, it's a strange mutated man-monkey who's saying this.
Of course, was just a monkey when I saw it.

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Interesting stuff in truth, I think I recall a youtube video showing the effect. I wouldn't mind seeing it in real life. Think I'll sneak in and have a peek, I imagine they'll be pretty cheerily forgiving of my amusing trespassy curiosity.
Sure! Find Steve on the gate, tell him I sent you. I'm sure they'll be really happy to give you the no-holds-barred tour, where you get to stand in the control room, and on a gantry over the pond, and look down onto the top of the reactor core. Happens all the time, the cheeky scamps sneak in all over the shop. We just ruffle their hair, send them on their way, and mutter, "boys will be boys".


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 17:10 
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Man, that reminds me, I completely accidentally found myself driving down the one stretch of dual-carriageway to be found in the highlands when on a camping holiday a couple of years ago; turns out it's the approach road to Dounreay. And it's a dual-carriageway with a big concrete divider down the middle so you can't pull a U-ey and get out of there.
An Atomic Police car pulled me over and asked me what I thought I was up to, with my camera and bird-spotting binoculars lying on the dashboard, and then instructed me to drive *into* the compound, over the severe-tyre-damage spikes and that, turn around after the checkpoint and then drive back out the other side. So I did. That place is *huge* when you get up close! And I did wonder if they were going to shoot me when I went past the barrier.


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 Post subject: Re: Doctor Who
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Sure! Find Steve on the gate, tell him I sent you. I'm sure they'll be really happy to give you the no-holds-barred tour, where you get to stand in the control room, and on a gantry over the pond, and look down onto the top of the reactor core. Happens all the time, the cheeky scamps sneak in all over the shop. We just ruffle their hair, send them on their way, and mutter, "boys will be boys".


Ah, bless. I would so be riddled with lovely bullets. It's great being satiric isn't it? Apart from the bullett riddling 'carried too far' bits.

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 Post subject: Re: Doctor Who
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What's wrong with the theme music? I didn't rate the "new" version that they've had until now, this one is at least an improvement on that, and I hope they'll edge closer to the Orbital version over time :)


I like the new version, but possibly just because it reminds me (especially the chords towards the end of the opening titles) of the 1980 Peter Howell version, which I love.


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 Post subject: Re: Doctor Who
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The new music is a case of 'too much'. Gold's initial revamp is one of his few successes on the Who stuff (although one might argue that whoever mixes the show should be the first against the wall), but the new version just has too much tat added on top, and almost entirely 'hides' the samples from the original.


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 Post subject: Re: Doctor Who
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The new music is a case of 'too much'. Gold's initial revamp is one of his few successes on the Who stuff (although one might argue that whoever mixes the show should be the first against the wall), but the new version just has too much tat added on top, and almost entirely 'hides' the samples from the original.


I'm afraid I think Gold is an appalling one trick hack who got the gig due to being bestest buddies with RTD after previously digging him out of a hole. Mark Ayres should have got the gig and then we might have music that doesn't sound bland.

With old Who, each story had a different composer, so you got some really distinctive and expertimental music. It didn't always work granted but the new series just has generic sci-fi fare which isn't memorable and is mixed in far too loud. Although, granted, in the 70's Dudley Simpson scored most of the stories. But man, Simpson was *talented* and each story he did sounded totally unique. You *remembered* some of the scores and they were simple and evocative.

As for the theme remix, appalling.

And don't even get me started on the shit that passed for a story last week. Ended up watching it on fast forward I was so bored. Just totally 1 dimensional and bland.

The promo for this weeks episode looks better.

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 Post subject: Re: Doctor Who
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What's wrong with the theme music? I didn't rate the "new" version that they've had until now, this one is at least an improvement on that, and I hope they'll edge closer to the Orbital version over time :)


I like the new version, but possibly just because it reminds me (especially the chords towards the end of the opening titles) of the 1980 Peter Howell version, which I love.


Howell was talented with no budget and limited techology and produced good music.

Gold has a shit load of money, all the technology in the world and comes up with sub 1996 telemovie music.

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got the gig due to being bestest buddies with RTD

That goes for 90% of people involved with Who now, doesn't it?


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got the gig due to being bestest buddies with RTD

That goes for 90% of people involved with Who now, doesn't it?


Pretty much. And it's extending into the crew as well. Someone who worked on the show told me it had become a case where RTD employed his mates, they employed their mates and this then this starts to filter across the entire crew.

My contact hasn't had their contract renewed because of a change further up the chain of command.

It's terribly sad because one of Who's strengths in the past was that the BBC had an enormous amount of talent in-house but you'd get a mix of people working on the show because of the way the BBC worked.

That said, thankfully there are still some people from the past working on the series through their own merit. Sheelagh Wells who started her career on Blakes 7* has been looking after the make-up design on alot of new episodes. Mike Tucker who did the superb models on Red Dwarf and had also been on the original Who crew has done alot of the model shots on new Who (such as the spacecraft crashing through Big Ben which was done with models not CGI).

I'm not saying that alot of the "younger" crew members aren't talented, but I do think that sometimes things are being done at the whim of RTD rather than on who would be best for the job. Gold's music is a case in point. It makes Keff McCulloch's stuff sound subtle and understated in comparison. Mark Ayres has said he pitched for the gig but didn't get it which makes me rather cross as Ayres scores for Greatest Show In The Galaxy and Ghostlight were bloody amazing (although Ghostlight is mixed far too loud, something that Ayres himself comments on in the DVD documentry).


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 Post subject: Re: Doctor Who
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I didn't really like the episode this week. Can't quite put my finger on why as there were some good bits but for the most part it irritated or bored me. I think the problem was that the formula had been used so many times that I'm really quite sick of it all now. Does there really have to be so many end of the world scenarios? There weren't that many in old Who are there? And can we please go somewhere other than Earth?

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I didn't really like the episode this week. Can't quite put my finger on why as there were some good bits but for the most part it irritated or bored me. I think the problem was that the formula had been used so many times that I'm really quite sick of it all now. Does there really have to be so many end of the world scenarios? There weren't that many in old Who are there? And can we please go somewhere other than Earth?

Hmmm. That's precisely how I felt about it, but Irri Tate annoyed me a bit too.


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IThere weren't that many in old Who are there? And can we please go somewhere other than Earth?


Not rammed down your throat as much as the new series. Lots of baddies wanted to take over the world or even destroy it but I don't know what it is about the new series but everything seems so ident-a-kit and obvious. They used to be able to tell a story and just imply that the baddies scheme would result in bad things happening to the earth. Now everything needs to be spelt out.


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I enjoyed this week's episode. I think Tate is settling as well as Billy or Freema. It did the same job as the Shakespeare episode last season. In many ways it was the same episode - but hey ho, I enjoy the formula.

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Just noticed in the credits: Stallholder - Phil Cornwell.

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Bring back Tegan, that's what I say.

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I mean if they can fetch back Sarah Jane from much earlier, why not Tegan? I know she left the Doctor in a bit of a strop at not being able to take it all anymore but she might have changed her mind now.

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She might be dead by now, of an alien tumour.


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Nyssa was a bit boring though. She could win an award for looking blank I feel. I certainly wouldn't welcome the return of Peri Brown though. She was terrible.

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She might be dead by now, of an alien tumour.


This. They wrote her out in the audio adventures as it was a condition of Janet Fielding returning for one last time.

Of course money might make a difference but it's unlikely as Fielding now has a successful career off the stage as an agent.

Most of the others would welcome a return, especially Matthew Waterhouse who is now into the fourth year of his vigel outside the production facility where he is campaigning for Adrics return from the dead.


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Luckily, nobody would welcome a return for Matthew Waterhouse, cast or listeners.


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Did Janet Fielding not like being part of Doctor Who? I must say when I saw her on the Adventure Game she seemed rather humourless and boring. Tegan was great though. You can keep Jo Grant as well. I like Liz Shaw but she's way too old now. I presume Leela would have perished with her Timelord boyfriend she implausibly shacked up with at the end of the Invasion of Time. That has to be one of the most amusing Doctor Who moments. Romana can't come back either can she unless she miraculously made herself human as well.

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Nyssa was a bit boring though. She could win an award for looking blank I feel. I certainly wouldn't welcome the return of Peri Brown though. She was terrible.


Ah Peri, or jiggly jugs as I prefer to think of her. Certainly The Two Doctors was improved no end by her costume.

As for Nyssa, not a bad companion but only Johnny Byrne (who sadly died last week) could write well for her.

Speaking of Johnny Byrne, I was utterly disgusted to hear that ITV didn't even put a memorial caption up at the end of Heartbeat for the man who created the series and wrote a huge majority of the episodes from it's creation in 1992 through until last year. Disgraceful ITV can't even recognise the passing of one of the top British TV scriptwriters of the past 30 years.


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Did Janet Fielding not like being part of Doctor Who? I must say when I saw her on the Adventure Game she seemed rather humourless and boring. Tegan was great though. You can keep Jo Grant as well. I like Liz Shaw but she's way too old now. I presume Leela would have perished with her Timelord boyfriend she implausibly shacked up with at the end of the Invasion of Time. That has to be one of the most amusing Doctor Who moments. Romana can't come back either can she unless she miraculously made herself human as well.


Fielding was always very cold to Who in the 90's although had no problem with Paul Mcgann being cast (she was his agent). However her interest seems to have perked up with the DVD releases. Apparently she initially refused to do interviews for the DVD documentries (although was happy to do commenteries) but now she's got to know the crew she's started to appear on-camera as well.

Her commentries are usually pretty scathing, espcially of her own performence. Peter Davison usually keeps her in check though.

RTD will bring back whoever he wants at a whim and will explain it away as usual. However I think the most realistic thing (in a few years) might be a multi-doctor story with Peter Davison. Depends on how long Tennant stays in the role really. Apparently Davison went down a storm with the production team (helped by the fact that the Children In Need sequence was directed by the same man who directed Davisons last story) so they may be thinking about how they can utilise that. It would be a few years away though.


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I thought Nyssa was pretty good in Terminus and a few of the Tom Baker episodes but for the most part she stood around looking quite quite lost. She was fairly good in Black Orchid as I recall. Which episodes did Johnny Byrne write then?

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Luckily, nobody would welcome a return for Matthew Waterhouse, cast or listeners.


To be fair, he's quite entertaining on the DVD commentaries. He tries really hard and his efforts to "moderate" the general chit-chat on (I think) The Keeper of Traken was appreciated by me at least.

Gotta love the reference to him in Little Britain as well.


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I thought Nyssa was pretty good in Terminus and a few of the Tom Baker episodes but for the most part she stood around looking quite quite lost. She was fairly good in Black Orchid as I recall. Which episodes did Johnny Byrne write then?


Traken and Arc Of Infinity. Arguably the sequences with the Doctor and Nyssa on Gallifrey in Arc are her best bits and are often cited by Davison as to how much better things would have been if he'd just had one companion (and Davison has often said Nyssa was his favourite companion).


http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=quJNSQOVpsc - Watchy watchy Arc Of Infinity.


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Speaking of Johnny Byrne, I was utterly disgusted to hear that ITV didn't even put a memorial caption up at the end of Heartbeat for the man who created the series and wrote a huge majority of the episodes from it's creation in 1992 through until last year. Disgraceful ITV can't even recognise the passing of one of the top British TV scriptwriters of the past 30 years.


That's pretty shocking. Even for ITV.

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Speaking of Johnny Byrne, I was utterly disgusted to hear that ITV didn't even put a memorial caption up at the end of Heartbeat for the man who created the series and wrote a huge majority of the episodes from it's creation in 1992 through until last year. Disgraceful ITV can't even recognise the passing of one of the top British TV scriptwriters of the past 30 years.


That's pretty shocking. Even for ITV.


Indeed, although I didn't even see anything on the BBC website. Byrne was the man who helped bring All Creatures Great And Small to our TV screens and was the principle writer (he adapted the books, but obviously they ran out of material fairly quickly). Also he wrote alot of the first season of Space 1999. By no means one of the most famous TV writers in the country and not one to court fame, I would have hoped that someone would have picked up on his death.


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Yes the Doctor would have been better with just one companion. Tegan! I think I like Tegan a bit too much.

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I liked that episode, yes. Fun seeing Peter Capaldi do something else, and very impressive effects. For once I wasn't annoyed with the 'earth in jeapordy' theme as it was actually used for something. Good effort all round I thought and a nice amount of plot crammed into the forty minutes. Very much liked the Doctor and Donna being remembered as household Gods. Tate was okay, and only sporadically annoying and occassionally good. Looking forward to seeing Tim McInnery.

I think the most annoying shoe-horning of 'earth will be destroyed!' was in that Smith & Jones episode, where I was already caring about Martha and the hospital people and then RTD shovelled on a stupid idea of a CAT scanner or something being magnetised and sterilising Earth by a villain because, somehow, caring for his well-written characters wasn't enough somehow. Grrr.

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Aside from the 'once linked with Kylie Minnogue', which is the equivilent of writing, 'once mentioned as a potential boyfriend/friend/associate of Kylie Minnogue'?

"David Pennant" surely.

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JESUS CHRISTEY BIKE!

I've just found out that Peter Capaldi (as any fule kno sweary awesomo in The Thick of It) played the Angel Islington in the fondly (by me) remembered fantasy mini-series Neverwhere. I never realised. Wow.

I thought he was jolly good in that, shame the thrilling climax was shot with a budget of £10.50 and a few candles falling over and a bit of wind.

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I quite enjoyed tonights episode, I do think that the Ood are one of the new series better inventions (much, much better than the fart aliens) and I loved the bit at the end where the bad guy got his comeuppance.

I missed the first 20 minutes though, what with the BBC's stupid 'lets bugger up Who for our crappy Norton bollocks' policy.

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I do think that the od are one of the new series better inventions
What?! They were pretty good in that other one but come on, two brains one of which they carry around completely exposed in their hands and that they can survive without anyway? One giant, exposed, immobile brain to rule them all? Flat out ridiculous.


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I quite enjoyed tonights episode, I do think that the Ood are one of the new series better inventions (much, much better than the fart aliens) and I loved the bit at the end where the bad guy got his comeuppance.

I missed the first 20 minutes though, what with the BBC's stupid 'lets bugger up Who for our crappy Norton bollocks' policy.

Oh, oh.. Sontarans next week!


I wasn't sure about the end thing. Good idea but a little silly perhaps. Also the crane operator being insane was really bad. However the episode felt like a proper Doctor Who episode to me.

Let's see..

Using a factory as an industrial site on another planet
No impending end of earth scenario
Doctor helps liberate some people and save the day
No overuse of Sonic Screwdriver
Good companion (oddly Catherine Tate is my favourite companion of Nu Who)

Really good stuff. Proper Doctor Who if you ask me.

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