I would argue that Vision was alive and born from the Mind Stone. His personality was a mixture of the Jarvis AI, Tony Stark and Banner's engrams and whatever Ultron plugged in there. The spark that woke him up was the lightning strike from Mjolnir. He was defo alive.

Thanos didn't bring Vision back to life either. He reversed time with the time stone.

It’s like you’re not even paying attention.

It's a bit more than that, because they could switch the robot on, but he wasn't Old Vision. But then Old Vision, now a product of SW, can transfer over all his memories. I suppose they could do some clever "New Vision doesn't know this because SW didn't, so her version of OV couldn't know it". But I reckon it'll just be some 'she recreated him, which recreated his memories' stuff.

I'm fine with it, because it was lovely, but it is just a complicated "dead! No! Not!"

Still a robot... robots are not alive.

Basically I disagree strongly with everything Sat said about Wandavision. It’s genuinely like we watched two entirely different shows, because the things he said in his post didn’t happen in the one I watched. Bonkers.

Still a robot... robots are not alive.

Oddly enough I acquired every* episode of every* Star Trek the other day for my Plex server. It’s never really been something that interested me enough to watch seriously but I remember seeing good eps of TNG as a kid, and my brother was obsessed with DS9.

* as far as I know, natch

I can’t imagine being the guy who watches a fantasy superhero series where a woman literally materialises a pair of kids out of thin air, or a guy turns into a green monster or has an entire film where people go back in time travel due to a loads of bollocks where someone just says quantum before a word like it’s a thing and yet, after all that, stakes his claim on ‘robots cant be alive’. Hilarious.

I guess that is what the Turing Test proposed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turing_test

I've just skimmed right past the last posts because they seemed to be talking about WandaVision and I'm not up to date.

We finished series one of The Expanse. Really enjoyed it, fantastic world building and left us eager for more. Started series two immediately and love it.

Never heard of it, tell me more.

I mean that test is to see if AI can trick you into thinking it’s alive, it doesn’t ponder the question as to whether it actually *is*.

But as you’ve already said a robot isn’t alive on a number of occasions, it appears your mind is made up.

Excellent! Series two and three are the best it gets, I think, though one was excellent.

Are strawberries alive?

Remember MTV’s Liquid Television? It had a load of different animation styles and weird stories, plus it also gave us the spectacular Aeon Flux.

Love, Death & Robots is that.

Loads of different styles telling weird stories lasting no more than 10 minutes each. Most are entirely average, a couple are really good (the lost spaceship, in particular) and some are just shit (hitler, the trash heap, lucky 13 spaceship).

The animation on display is really where this all shines though. Some of the CGI makes you wonder if they’ve just done CG over real actors, some do a bit of the old manga, some Pixar style stuff etc. Some of the voice acting is a bit terrible but if you like animation then you’ll enjoy seeing the incredible effort that’s gone into some of these.

I could see one or two of these being made into a full series like Aeon Flux - especially the Chinese spirit one. I was gutted when that skipped time and just ended. There’s even some tatties and, to even that out, a fair few penises. So a bit of everything for everyone.

I've just skimmed right past the last posts because they seemed to be talking about WandaVision and I'm not up to date.

We finished series one of The Expanse. Really enjoyed it, fantastic world building and left us eager for more. Started series two immediately and love it.

We've just finished season 5 of the Expanse and was suprised enough by:



to wonder what happened

The Expanse just goes to show how important the broadcaster is. Imagine if it had been put out by HBO? I adore it.

Makes me nervous about the Wheel of Time show which is also being made by Amazon Prime, although with Rosamund Pike playing Moiraine it might be impossible to miss.

Oh wow. I couldn't find a clear timeline, but some suggestions:

Sweary Avasarala is my favourite thing