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PostPosted: Sun Jul 23, 2017 14:49 
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I'm enjoying Killjoys at the moment. First series is on Netflix. It's very low budget sci-fi but quite creatively done and it's never anything other than entertaining.

If you want slightly bonkers, I understand that Lexx is up on either Amazon or Netflix. Very surreal, quite sexy sci-fi series that ran from '99-02. The first series was good IIRC helped by the really very sexy Eva Habermann playing the character Xev


I remember watching that at Uni. I remember it as being simultaneously terrible and actually quite good.

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DBSnappa wrote:
I'm enjoying Killjoys at the moment. First series is on Netflix. It's very low budget sci-fi but quite creatively done and it's never anything other than entertaining.

If you want slightly bonkers, I understand that Lexx is up on either Amazon or Netflix. Very surreal, quite sexy sci-fi series that ran from '99-02. The first series was good IIRC helped by the really very sexy Eva Habermann playing the character Xev


I remember watching that at Uni. I remember it as being simultaneously terrible and actually quite good.


I found Uni to be like that, too.

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Ozark.

It's the story of a wealthy family who lost everything, and the one son who had no choice but to keep them all together.

Yer man from Arrested Development sort of does Breaking Bad, but it starts at like season 3/4, and he's a money launderer, not a chemist. Also he is married to Laura Linney and she's in on it.

Not particularly original, but it's quite good and tense, and the cast are solid.


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Curiosity wrote:
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I'm enjoying Killjoys at the moment. First series is on Netflix. It's very low budget sci-fi but quite creatively done and it's never anything other than entertaining.

If you want slightly bonkers, I understand that Lexx is up on either Amazon or Netflix. Very surreal, quite sexy sci-fi series that ran from '99-02. The first series was good IIRC helped by the really very sexy Eva Habermann playing the character Xev


I remember watching that at Uni. I remember it as being simultaneously terrible and actually quite good.


Yes, it's very schlocky.

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Hmm.. makes a change from Nazis I guess, and there's probably a load of old statues lying around now that they could use for set dressing.


The difference if that if Nazis had won, they would have won a world war, thus everything would be different, so the plot of Man in the high castle makes some sense.

Would slavery still be legal if the south had won the American civil war? I doubt it. By the time of the civil war many other countries had already abolished slavery, there's no way the US would stand alone in that matter for a century and half.


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The further you get from the point of departure, the more alternative history becomes a reflection of the writer's own creative energies rather than based in anything substantial. But, hey, disclaimer out the way, here's my view.

I think the key point is the amount of capital and debt secured on slaves. Indeed, some sources I've read suggest that by 1860 more capital was tied up in slaves than that ever achieved by the mighty railway or steel conglomerates of the Gilded Age. Taking this, we can assume that unless there was a massive drop in the value of human property vis-a-vis free labour, or a massive re-orientation of southern industry away from labour-intensive agriculture (arguably only feasible after the development of air-conditioning), a prolonged existence of the institution would be feasible, especially if southern plans to conquer parts of Mexico and Cuba came to fruition.

It also assumes that a confederal system of government with a weak centre would last, and the evidence from the American Civil War suggests that it wouldn't, with records of state governors opposing demands by the CSA for supplies that would go to troops from other states etc.

Of course, the sane idea for the south to keep slavery in tact would have been not to have seceded or fired on Fort Sumter on the first place, but given the divisions on slavery from the establishment of the constitution onwards, a conflict was likely to occur at some point.

On a wider, sadder, note, we have yet to eradicate slavery from the planet.


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Had they declared their succession but not initiated the war by firing on Sumter, do you think they could have successfully split? Hung around long enough as a de facto independent country without war breaking out and eventually everyone would have had to have recognised them?


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No, I think Lincoln's position is pretty clear: secession was illegal and the federal government has the right to maintain and uphold its authority. This contrasts to James Buchanan who thought it was wrong but didn't think the president had the power to do anything. See Lincoln's first inaugural speech for a reasonable outline of his position in 1861:

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...there needs to be no bloodshed or violence; and there shall be none, unless it be forced upon the national authority. The power confided to me will be used to hold, occupy, and possess the property and places belonging to the government, and to collect the duties and imposts; but beyond what may be necessary for these objects, there will be no invasion, no using of force against or among the people anywhere. Where hostility to the United States, in any interior locality, shall be so great and universal as to prevent competent resident citizens from holding the Federal offices, there will be no attempt to force obnoxious strangers among the people for that object. While the strict legal right may exist in the government to enforce the exercise of these offices, the attempt to do so would be so irritating, and so nearly impracticable withal, that I deem it better to forego for the time the uses of such offices.


In short: keep the government running and only resort to coercion if strictly necessary (an open definition). Also, better to keep the peace by letting offices remain unfilled if there are no locals to do it for now. Yet by this point, of course, the US only held Sumter having lost its other forts and arsenals in the seceding state.

On another note, both sides during the war were after the unorganised western territories, so even without firing on Sumter, it's likely that the armies would have come to blows on the frontier.


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What is the next must watch


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Better Call Saul too.

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I've not heard of that - is it any good? What's the premise?

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I'm talking to Kov.

I've not heard of that - is it any good? What's the premise?


It's Invictus meets Tootsie

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I'm talking to Kov.

I've not heard of that - is it any good? What's the premise?


A man with narcolepsy talks to another man about the fact that each month 5% of him disappears.

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Romcom involving a lovable rogue with crazy dress sense. Big mix up involving goose fat at a triathlon event makes him realise that it wasn't his lurid trainers that gave him the edge, it was love. Love of kebabs.

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I'm talking to Kov.

I've not heard of that - is it any good? What's the premise?


It's Invictus meets Tootsie

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Grim... wrote:
Zardoz wrote:
I'm talking to Kov.

I've not heard of that - is it any good? What's the premise?


A man with narcolepsy talks to another man about the fact that each month 5% of him disappears.

Oh goodness, now it would be wrong to leave you out

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DBSnappa wrote:
I'm enjoying Killjoys at the moment. First series is on Netflix. It's very low budget sci-fi but quite creatively done and it's never anything other than entertaining.

If you want slightly bonkers, I understand that Lexx is up on either Amazon or Netflix. Very surreal, quite sexy sci-fi series that ran from '99-02. The first series was good IIRC helped by the really very sexy Eva Habermann playing the character Xev


I had both series on Netflix here, I enjoyed it, it was fairly ok sci fi. Second series was a bit better than the first if I'm honest.

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A couple of recent shows I've watched.

Will - Shakespeare with a modern soundtrack.
Much better than it's 6.6 on IMDB would suggest.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt5734140/

Midnight, Texas - supernatural shenanigans from the creator of True Blood.
Not quite as good as it's 8.1 on IMDB would suggest but still worth a look
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt5464086/


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Preacher. Herr Starr. He may be my new favourite TV character.


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Preacher is my absolute favourite thing on TV at the moment... Possibly ever!

The new series has been brilliant so far. The only problem I have with it is having to wait a whole week before I can watch the next episode.


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Preacher is my absolute favourite thing on TV at the moment... Possibly ever!

The new series has been brilliant so far. The only problem I have with it is having to wait a whole week before I can watch the next episode.

What service is Preacher on? Can I get it on Netflix? I just keep seeing the name come up and as we've finished Better Call Saul it might be something to watch instead.

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Mimi wrote:
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Preacher is my absolute favourite thing on TV at the moment... Possibly ever!

The new series has been brilliant so far. The only problem I have with it is having to wait a whole week before I can watch the next episode.

What service is Preacher on? Can I get it on Netflix? I just keep seeing the name come up and as we've finished Better Call Saul it might be something to watch instead.


For some reason I thought it had Idris Elba in. It does not, so I'm already disappointed without ever watching it.

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It's on Amazon Prime, Mimi.

There's another season of Luther started on Netflix is you need some Idris Elba.

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Well at least your opinion can't go down from here. It's on Amazon Prime and it's terrific.


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It's on Amazon Prime, Mimi.

There's another season of Luther started on Netflix is you need some Idris Elba.

Ah, I don't have Prime, so Luther it is.

I kind of want to run into Idris Elba like running into a wall. I don't think he'd move. Or jump on his back as he's walking down the road. I reckon he's 100% muscle, wrapped around his bones. Apart from his voice, which is made of honey. He's so beautiful I might die.

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No you're not

No, he is. Beautiful like a baby bird.

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Mimi wrote:
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No you're not

No, he is. Beautiful like a baby bird.

Before it's hatched

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Bosch is good TV. Police drama, one case per series type. It's on Amazon Prime.

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Zardoz wrote:
It's on Amazon Prime, Mimi.

There's another season of Luther started on Netflix is you need some Idris Elba.


For some reason I thought I'd already seen that series of Luther. I hadn't, so watched it last night. Some typically demented stuff but I found the storyline with
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Bosch is good TV. Police drama, one case per series type. It's on Amazon Prime.

The books are very good as well, though they're obviously quite different to the tv series; as in how you imagine the characters and also the time period. Michael Connelly the author, was a regular at Castle's poker nights

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It also has the most typecast man in TV history, Lance Reddick

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It also has the most typecast man in TV history, Lance Reddick

Let me guess, he's playing a happy-go-lucky fashion journalist with a dream of becoming a published poet who has a whacky group of fun-loving friends?


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It also has the most typecast man in TV history, Lance Reddick


The type in question ('gruff authority figure') is pretty popular though so he's probably doing alright.


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More specific than that, he seems to always be a Police Captain/Chief

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Cras wrote:
More specific than that, he seems to always be a Police Captain/Chief


He wasn't exactly police in Fringe (Homeland Security to be precise) hence why I went with the more generic 'authority figure'. I also had it in my head that I'd seen him play head of security for a private company in something but Wikipedia doesn't seem to agree.


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More specific than that, he seems to always be a Police Captain/Chief

Right? In every... single... thing.

It's a bit Reddickulous.

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He's a hotel receptionist in John Wick 2. OK it's an assassin's hotel, but still.

NEVER MIND THAT WHAT ABOUT THE PUN THOUGH EH?

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He's a hotel receptionist in John Wick 2. OK it's an assassin's hotel, but still.

Undercover cop.

Also, you did not acknowledge my excellent pun.

Disappoint.

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He's a hotel receptionist in John Wick 2. OK it's an assassin's hotel, but still.

NEVER MIND THAT WHAT ABOUT THE PUN THOUGH EH?


Undercover cop.

Also, you did not acknowledge my excellent pun.

Disappoint.


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Reddickulous...

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Maybe you are not writing in the forum parLANCE?

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