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Author:  Cras [ Thu Aug 20, 2015 12:02 ]
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Would have been nice if they'd added in the ability to save anyway. I'm taking loooong breaks today.
Author:  ElephantBanjoGnome [ Thu Aug 20, 2015 12:05 ]
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Grim... wrote:
iOS FF7 is a-comin' - and you can turn off the random battles.

75% of the video is FMV and the rest are limit breaks and summons. Not quite representative of the game I'd say.

I completed FF7 again recently. Like always as soon as I win I can't be arsed to go back to beat the weapons.

I'm also near the end of FF8 and my enthusiasm has dropped off again.
Author:  Cras [ Thu Aug 20, 2015 12:07 ]
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Cras wrote:
Would have been nice if they'd added in the ability to save anywhere. I'm taking loooong breaks today.
Author:  Grim... [ Thu Aug 20, 2015 12:18 ]
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We all heard you the first time. No-one cares, is all.
Author:  Cras [ Thu Aug 20, 2015 12:27 ]
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Huh. that was supposed to be an edit.
Author:  Grim... [ Thu Aug 20, 2015 13:29 ]
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You didn't even edit anything!
Author:  Cras [ Thu Aug 20, 2015 13:43 ]
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Yeah, I did.
Author:  myp [ Thu Aug 20, 2015 14:27 ]
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Cras wrote:
Yeah, I did.

where
Author:  Mr Russell [ Thu Aug 20, 2015 14:29 ]
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Future Warrior wrote:
Cras wrote:
Yeah, I did.

where

way
Author:  Grim... [ Thu Aug 20, 2015 15:27 ]
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So you did.
Author:  MrD [ Fri Aug 21, 2015 7:31 ]
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FF7 has the best quartermastery system. Granting your characters additional discrete abilities is way more important to having options in battle than having greater stats (kinda by definition).
Author:  Curiosity [ Fri Aug 21, 2015 8:16 ]
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It's been so long that I'm scared playing it again now would ruin my perfect memories of it.
Author:  ElephantBanjoGnome [ Fri Aug 21, 2015 12:15 ]
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FF7 relied a lot more on buying stuff. Buying weapons, buying armour especially, to give you slots to junction materia to be able to cast summons and have cool abilities.

FF8 is much different. You can mod your weapon but the benefits are minimal and guides tell you to not bother for anything other than Squall's sword. No armour of any kind. You junction magic to stats for different bonuses. Ablilities are contained in GFs (summons) who also contain abilities and effects you can apply to characters.

I couldn't really say which was better, except that in FF8 you can game the method extremely early on to make your characters laughably overpowered and one-shot nearly every generic enemy from almost the start of the game. The best you could do in FF7 was to steal a weapon from an enemy a bit earlier than you could buy it, which was handy but in no way game-breaking.
Author:  Mr Russell [ Fri Aug 21, 2015 12:19 ]
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The FF8 Junction system was rubbish until you realised you could go to Hell Island and grind for stupidly powerful spells and just leave 100 of them junctioned to every slot. Then, as you say, you were practically invincible.

I loved the Waltz For the Moon dance sequence in that: I had a demo disc of FFVIII that had that FMV but all in sepia, which wasn't in the main game.
Author:  ElephantBanjoGnome [ Fri Aug 21, 2015 12:29 ]
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I liked the junction system. You can only go to hell/heaven after you have the Ragnarok, and by then you're stupidly overpowered anyway.

Basically in FF8 if you could stand the card game you could sit in Balamb Garden and mine cards for items, convert them, and get a dickload of free magic.

In my current FF8 playthrough I have two cards left to collect. I've done every card quest in the game and the last two cards are optional GFs that I have to go and beat.
Author:  Grim... [ Fri Aug 21, 2015 12:45 ]
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I liked the card game.
Author:  Morte [ Fri Aug 21, 2015 13:17 ]
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Now available as a mobile download!

https://www.google.az/url?sa=t&rct=j&q= ... GFoHZg0YJA
Author:  ElephantBanjoGnome [ Fri Aug 21, 2015 13:29 ]
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Playing it in the game was fine, but fuck that as a stand-alone. The FF8 guide I used this time around to make sure I got everything included a strategy to ensure disadvantageous rules were abolished from different regions by manipulating the random seed generator. Random, closed-hands, same, plus, and plus-wall were the worst rules. You're winning the game but the CPU has pre-calculated all of the possible Plus permutations and more often than not drops the last card to get a Plus flip which combos into flipping the rest of the board and them winning.
Author:  Cras [ Fri Aug 28, 2015 11:26 ]
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Bollocks. Went to Wutai too early and now I'm stuck with no Materia and needing to kill a boss that can instakill any character whenever it likes.
Author:  Grim... [ Fri Aug 28, 2015 11:34 ]
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What's the work:ff7 ratio like now?
Author:  Cras [ Fri Aug 28, 2015 11:37 ]
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About 50:50. I am definitely not a good investment by my employer.
Author:  Mr Russell [ Fri Aug 28, 2015 11:43 ]
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Cras wrote:
Bollocks. Went to Wutai too early and now I'm stuck with no Materia and needing to kill a boss that can instakill any character whenever it likes.

Are you in the dojo? Can't you just exit and choose to lose progress through the levels?

The whole point is that you have no materia whilst in Wutai because Yuffie is a bitch, so there must be something you can do to help beat him. To Mr Google!
Author:  Mr Dave [ Fri Aug 28, 2015 11:48 ]
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Cras wrote:
Bollocks. Went to Wutai too early and now I'm stuck with no Materia and needing to kill a boss that can instakill any character whenever it likes.

Try: Man up.
Author:  Cras [ Fri Aug 28, 2015 11:59 ]
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Mr Russell wrote:
Cras wrote:
Bollocks. Went to Wutai too early and now I'm stuck with no Materia and needing to kill a boss that can instakill any character whenever it likes.

Are you in the dojo? Can't you just exit and choose to lose progress through the levels?

The whole point is that you have no materia whilst in Wutai because Yuffie is a bitch, so there must be something you can do to help beat him. To Mr Google!


Nope, before the dojo. Yuffie's been kidnapped by Don Corneo, and no way to get my materia back without killing the next boss. It's potentially achievable. Google suggest's Barrett's Mindblow limit break helps a lot. Still going to require luck and many attempts though, I feel.

And obviously I have no pre-Wutai save, because duh :)
Author:  Cras [ Fri Aug 28, 2015 11:59 ]
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Mr Dave wrote:
Cras wrote:
Bollocks. Went to Wutai too early and now I'm stuck with no Materia and needing to kill a boss that can instakill any character whenever it likes.

Try: Man up.


My Man Up materia got taken too :(
Author:  Mr Russell [ Fri Aug 28, 2015 12:00 ]
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Mr Dave wrote:
Cras wrote:
Bollocks. Went to Wutai too early and now I'm stuck with no Materia and needing to kill a boss that can instakill any character whenever it likes.

Try: Man up.

Which character do you equip that to?
Author:  Mr Russell [ Fri Aug 28, 2015 12:00 ]
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Mr Russell wrote:
Mr Dave wrote:
Cras wrote:
Bollocks. Went to Wutai too early and now I'm stuck with no Materia and needing to kill a boss that can instakill any character whenever it likes.

Try: Man up.

Which character do you equip that to?


Wait is that Aeris' Level 4 Limit Break?
Author:  Grim... [ Sun Dec 06, 2015 13:22 ]
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SHIT YOUR PANTS, FFFANS!
Author:  Grim... [ Sun Dec 06, 2015 13:24 ]
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I reckon it'll be released Jan 31, 2017.
Author:  Grim... [ Sun Dec 06, 2015 13:34 ]
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Oh, and the PS4 port of the original version is out today.
Author:  Cras [ Sun Dec 06, 2015 13:54 ]
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Goddamnit, now I need to get it again
Author:  Grim... [ Sun Dec 06, 2015 13:57 ]
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I'm annoyed I can't pre-order it now.
Author:  Grim... [ Sun Dec 06, 2015 13:57 ]
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Did you finish your iOS run?
Author:  Mr Dave [ Sun Dec 06, 2015 14:07 ]
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That does look worryingly like they might have gone for wank FF13-esque single person 'cinematic' combat.

Hoping that's not the case.
Author:  Cras [ Sun Dec 06, 2015 14:22 ]
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Grim-beard... the noisy wrote:
Did you finish your iOS run?


Yeah, but didn't do most of the extras - the interface was just a little too annoying
Author:  TheVision [ Mon Dec 07, 2015 10:41 ]
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Looks like the remake is going to be episodic. Is that a bad thing?
Author:  Satsuma [ Mon Dec 07, 2015 11:08 ]
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Square Enix: see latest Hitman.
Author:  Grim... [ Fri May 10, 2019 7:50 ]
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Herp

https://twitter.com/finalfantasy/status ... 0784679937
Author:  Satsuma [ Fri May 10, 2019 15:13 ]
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It’s reconfirmed as episodic, which is a shame.

https://mobile.twitter.com/hansuramu/st ... 6238600192
Author:  myp [ Fri May 10, 2019 15:20 ]
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At least that way we don’t have to wait 10 years for it to be finished.
Author:  MaliA [ Fri May 10, 2019 15:22 ]
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Mr Chonks wrote:
At least that way we don’t have to wait 10 years for it to be finished.
Netflix would have stopped 6 ago
Author:  Grim... [ Wed Jun 12, 2019 8:38 ]
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So, you've probably all seen the trailer and heard about the March release date by now.

What you won't know - because apparently no-one knows - is how many bits the game will be in.

The first part they're releasing is the Midgar section of the game, and while it's a fairly sizable chunk of the whole thing it's still 20% at best.

Does that mean the whole thing is going to be in five parts? £250 might be too much even for me.
Author:  myp [ Wed Jun 12, 2019 8:42 ]
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I’m gonna wait till it’s all released and get it for £25 in a sale. In 2030
Author:  Mr Dave [ Wed Jun 12, 2019 9:24 ]
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As I feared above, It's looking like they've gone for a shitty modern ff single controllable character combat style with emphasis on shiny graphics rather than interesting battles.

As such, I'm not overly likely to get it,just stick with t by e original.
Author:  Satsuma [ Mon Mar 02, 2020 11:17 ]
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There’s a demo of the remake out now on PS4!
Author:  Pundabaya [ Tue Mar 03, 2020 1:15 ]
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I have done played said demo :

- Biggs, Wedge and Jessie!
- All the characters look great. The graphics are pretty spectacular.
- Combat feels very Kingdom Hearts-y, in that slightly clunky "trying to cast spells while also trying to dodge attacks" way.
- some of the bog standard enemies have way too much health.
- the boss takes way too long, and theres far too much fucking around. Little cutscenes? During a boss fight? No thanks
- some normal enemies can only be hit by Barrett and spells. This is annoying. I suppose it is true to the text, but those enemies were very uncommon.
- Limits appear to be single battle, so you can't charge them up and save them for next boss.
- a lot of the cutscenes are shot-for-shot remakes, like the opening scene. Which is cool.
- retcon of the story.
ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view!
apparently AVALANCHE's bomb did approximately jack shit to the reactor, it was SHINRA deliberately blowing it up.. Which... I suppose the world has changed a lot since the original release, but going from terrorists to inept terrorists who wanted to blow up the reactor but couldn't get it done... well it is hardly an upgrade, is it?


Might have to wait till the reviews roll in.
Author:  Grim... [ Wed Mar 04, 2020 0:37 ]
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Yeah, I fucking love it all over again.
Author:  myp [ Wed Mar 04, 2020 9:53 ]
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Mr Dave wrote:
As I feared above, It's looking like they've gone for a shitty modern ff single controllable character combat style with emphasis on shiny graphics rather than interesting battles.

As such, I'm not overly likely to get it,just stick with t by e original.
Author:  Zardoz [ Wed Mar 04, 2020 10:14 ]
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Tried the demo last night and it was enough for me. Loved the look but didn't get on with the combat.
Author:  Grim... [ Wed Mar 04, 2020 11:13 ]
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Did you have it on "classic" or "normal"? Classic is meant to be much closer to the old version.
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