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Author:  MrChris [ Wed Apr 02, 2008 21:42 ]
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Pod wrote:
Craster wrote:
Is the complete shield an actual heraldic device of the UK? My knowledge of heraldry isn't exactly up there. Although I know that's a lion rampant at the top right.

If it is, what's with the fucking harp?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_coat ... ed_Kingdom


From that link:

Attachment:
coats of arms.JPG


I can understand why the Scottish felt the need to add a Scottish flag to their version of the UK coat of arms, but why swap the pointy donkey and the cat around? They're just being awkward.
Author:  Cras [ Wed Apr 02, 2008 21:44 ]
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I love that there's a bit for England, a bit for Scotland, a bit for Ireland, and a bit for Wa...nah, fuck it - just do England's bit again.
Author:  MrChris [ Wed Apr 02, 2008 21:45 ]
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Craster wrote:
I love that there's a bit for England, a bit for Scotland, a bit for Ireland, and a bit for Wa...nah, fuck it - just do England's bit again.


Just like the flag, isn't it.

I do think a big fuck off dragon on the Union Jack would be good, though.

Actually, just a dragon. A live one. On a flag pole.

Not sure how you'd do half-mast with that, though.
Author:  Cras [ Wed Apr 02, 2008 21:48 ]
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Mr Chris wrote:
Actually, just a dragon. A live one. On a flag pole.


Close enough

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Author:  Rebel at Tescos [ Wed Apr 02, 2008 21:53 ]
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The 2p is from some kind of animal-themed goalkeeper game.
Author:  Squirt [ Wed Apr 02, 2008 21:58 ]
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Wales don't get one anything - only full kingdoms get a mention on the flag, apparently (although Ireland "kingdom" claim is pushing it a bit now ). Wales are only a crappy principality, so they get zip.

I like the fact that we had France on the Royal crest until 1801 - we still desperately claimed that we were in change of France as well, despite not owning any of it for about 300 years.
Author:  KevR [ Wed Apr 02, 2008 22:00 ]
Post subject:  Re: New Coins
Mr Chris wrote:
Pod wrote:
Craster wrote:
Is the complete shield an actual heraldic device of the UK? My knowledge of heraldry isn't exactly up there. Although I know that's a lion rampant at the top right.

If it is, what's with the fucking harp?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_coat ... ed_Kingdom


From that link:

Attachment:
coats of arms.JPG


I can understand why the Scottish felt the need to add a Scottish flag to their version of the UK coat of arms, but why swap the pointy donkey and the cat around? They're just being awkward.


Image

It used to be two unicorns. They then added the English flag and the corresponding 'Imperially crowned golden lion of England'. Apparently.
Author:  Mimi [ Wed Apr 02, 2008 22:00 ]
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Wales and England had formed a union when the Union Jack/Union flag (whatever) was created, and as Wales was a principality and not a separate kingdom it did not qualify to have it's own place on the flag. I saw this on the news (or maybe QI) a few months ago.
Author:  kalmar [ Wed Apr 02, 2008 22:02 ]
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I think I've spotted what's wrong with this country. It's got unicorns in the emblem thing.
Author:  Mimi [ Wed Apr 02, 2008 22:05 ]
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That's because it represents England, Scotland, Ireland and Narnia.
Author:  KevR [ Wed Apr 02, 2008 22:24 ]
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kalmar wrote:
I think I've spotted what's wrong with this country. It's got unicorns in the emblem thing.


The unicorn symbolises Scotland. Are you implying the Scots are what’s wrong with this country?

Racist!
Author:  MrChris [ Wed Apr 02, 2008 22:26 ]
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The Scots are symbolised by a horse wearing a party hat on its nose?
Author:  KevR [ Wed Apr 02, 2008 22:29 ]
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Mr Chris wrote:
The Scots are symbolised by a horse wearing a party hat on its nose?


No. The Scots are symbolised by a chained up horse wearing a party hat on its nose.
Author:  MrChris [ Wed Apr 02, 2008 22:31 ]
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They were chained up in their own scottish heraldic device too, though. So did the Scots see themselves as chained up even before they capitulated to their Southern neighbours? Maybe by their reliance on the French?
Author:  KevR [ Wed Apr 02, 2008 22:38 ]
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Mr Chris wrote:
They were chained up in their own scottish heraldic device too, though. So did the Scots see themselves as chained up even before they capitulated to their Southern neighbours? Maybe by their reliance on the French?


I think they saw themselves as tamed.
Author:  Dudley [ Wed Apr 02, 2008 22:44 ]
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Mimi wrote:
Wales and England had formed a union when the Union Jack/Union flag (whatever) was created, and as Wales was a principality and not a separate kingdom it did not qualify to have it's own place on the flag. I saw this on the news (or maybe QI) a few months ago.


True, this is also why Wales has "An assembly", like the local London one and not a Parliament (Like Scotland)
Author:  KevR [ Wed Apr 02, 2008 22:55 ]
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Dudley wrote:
Mimi wrote:
Wales and England had formed a union when the Union Jack/Union flag (whatever) was created, and as Wales was a principality and not a separate kingdom it did not qualify to have it's own place on the flag. I saw this on the news (or maybe QI) a few months ago.


True, this is also why Wales has "An assembly", like the local London one and not a Parliament (Like Scotland)


I believe the difference between having an assembly or a parliament is to do with the legislative powers that have been devolved.
Author:  Plissken [ Wed Apr 02, 2008 23:11 ]
Post subject:  Re: New Coins
True.

I like pointing out to Welshmen that Wales isn't a country and never has been. It makes them even more angry.

And, IIRC, the Union between England and Scotland came about because of Scots. So they've only got themselves to blame, really.
Author:  KevR [ Wed Apr 02, 2008 23:23 ]
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Plissken wrote:
True.

I like pointing out to Welshmen that Wales isn't a country and never has been. It makes them even more angry.

And, IIRC, the Union between England and Scotland came about because of Scots. So they've only got themselves to blame, really.


I think it was a combination of Scotland being broke and England wishing to ensure that Scotland didn’t make alliances with anyone against them.
Author:  CraigGrannell [ Wed Apr 02, 2008 23:48 ]
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voytee wrote:
Also dropping Britainia (spelling?) will get the Daily Mailxpress into a right old lather.

I liked Sir Christopher Frayling's pre-emptive rebuttal on that point: "There are 806 million Britannias in circulation at the moment."

In other news, the Americans have apparently been doing some redesigning, too—somewhat less successfully:

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Author:  Plissken [ Thu Apr 03, 2008 0:21 ]
Post subject:  Re: New Coins
Craster wrote:
If it is, what's with the fucking harp?


Keep watching.




Note to sub: Check thread.
Author:  Mimi [ Thu Apr 03, 2008 0:31 ]
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Shall I email them and tell them that they've forgotten to make a £2 coin?
Author:  MrD [ Thu Apr 03, 2008 0:35 ]
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This future money is acceptable.

It's not as good as the new £20 is, but it's acceptable.
Author:  Mimi [ Thu Apr 03, 2008 0:37 ]
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I love the new coins. I think that they are eye-catching and well designed - modern, but without losing the traditional symbolism of our coinage.
Author:  myp [ Thu Apr 03, 2008 0:47 ]
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I think they're brill. They're not changing the £2 coin, btw.
Author:  Mimi [ Thu Apr 03, 2008 0:48 ]
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I guessed that. I think it's a same - I'd have liked a full matching set, and the £2 is my favourite coin in size and shape.
Author:  MrChris [ Thu Apr 03, 2008 9:07 ]
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Why oh why oh why have we still not ditched coins in favour of Doozers? Eh? EH? If a better currency system exists, I'd like to hear about it.
Author:  Mimi [ Thu Apr 03, 2008 9:09 ]
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Doozers?
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Author:  MrChris [ Thu Apr 03, 2008 9:12 ]
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Doozers. Yes.
Author:  Mimi [ Thu Apr 03, 2008 9:13 ]
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Oh, OK. I'm up for that.
Author:  MrChris [ Thu Apr 03, 2008 9:18 ]
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That or livestock. I quite fancy going to the newsagents accompanied by a camel, three sheep and a goat. Not sure how you'd break a goat for change, though.

Anyway - back on topic, I think the new coins look quite good. I heard the bloke from the mint on Today the other morning (before they officially told the world what the new coins looked like) and he said that they would please both traditionalists and (I forget his phrasing for the next bit so I apologise if I've not quite managed to capture the gist of it) modern trendy arty twats.

They do indeed seem to have been able to be all things to all people with these (except the Daily Mailspress, of course, who would only be happy if the reverse of every coin and note had either Diana or Maddie stabbing a Frenchman in the face).

So - I approve, and shall be buying some.
Author:  Tmuk [ Thu Apr 03, 2008 9:21 ]
Post subject:  Re: New Coins
Image

Like the design, but the fact that the 1p, 2p, 5p, 10p, 20p and 50p combine to form the design of the £1 sort of suggest that they also add up to £1. When they actually add up to 88p.
Author:  Mimi [ Thu Apr 03, 2008 9:22 ]
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When you arrange them there are little gaps between the coins.

That's your missing 12p.
Author:  Tmuk [ Thu Apr 03, 2008 9:23 ]
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Excellent answer! They've thought of everything.
Author:  Zardoz [ Thu Apr 03, 2008 9:53 ]
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I like the 5p best, but hate 5p coins.

When can we get rid of 1 and 2 pence coins? They're just a bother.

I'd have redesigned them for £34,995, and they'd have blinked too.
Author:  Tmuk [ Thu Apr 03, 2008 10:14 ]
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I'd have put a portion of fish and chips on the back of the 1p, a cup of tea on the 2p, a pearly king on the 5p, a bulldog biting a poodle on the 10p, someone being sick on the 20p, some rain on the 50p and some sort of trumpet motif on the £1.
Author:  MrD [ Thu Apr 03, 2008 10:18 ]
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What's on the back?
Author:  MrChris [ Thu Apr 03, 2008 10:18 ]
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The Maj's Chevy Chase, innit. In jigsaw form. And her nose is missing.
Author:  pupil [ Thu Apr 03, 2008 10:19 ]
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MrD wrote:
What's on the back?


Various face parts of Queen Lizzie. Add them together like a Mr Potato Head.
Author:  MrD [ Thu Apr 03, 2008 10:23 ]
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Do we get to make up some cool slang for loose change now?

We need a really obscure word for 'shields'.
Author:  MrChris [ Thu Apr 03, 2008 10:24 ]
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MrD wrote:
Do we get to make up some cool slang for loose change now?

We need a really obscure word for 'shields'.


"Scutum", said with a broad cockerney accent (thus dropping the "t" to a partial glottal stop).
Author:  NervousPete [ Thu Apr 03, 2008 10:27 ]
Post subject:  Re: New Coins
Buckler is pretty cool.

"Awright guv, spare some bucklers?"
Author:  Tmuk [ Thu Apr 03, 2008 10:28 ]
Post subject:  Re: New Coins
nervouspete wrote:
Buckler is pretty cool.

"Awright guv, spare some bucklers?"


Only a matter of time before someone shortens it to a 'buck' though.
Author:  Zardoz [ Thu Apr 03, 2008 10:29 ]
Post subject:  Re: New Coins
MrD wrote:
What's on the back?


Gok Wan
Author:  SkyKid [ Thu Apr 03, 2008 15:23 ]
Post subject:  Re: New Coins
A few folk on the BBC website have raised the very valid point that having no numerals might be a bad omission- both for visitors who don't speak the language and the blind.
Author:  kalmar [ Thu Apr 03, 2008 15:25 ]
Post subject:  Re: New Coins
SkyKid wrote:
A few folk on the BBC website have raised the very valid point that having no numerals might be a bad omission- both for visitors who don't speak the language and the blind.


Well, Johnny Foreigner can jolly well learn it then, can't he, what?
Author:  CraigGrannell [ Thu Apr 03, 2008 15:50 ]
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The blind should be fine, since the coins are all very different shapes and/or weights. The lack of numbers might be an issue for some, I guess.
Author:  myp [ Thu Apr 03, 2008 16:08 ]
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Mr Chris wrote:
That or livestock. I quite fancy going to the newsagents accompanied by a camel, three sheep and a goat. Not sure how you'd break a goat for change, though.


That's easy - it's usually three hens.
Author:  MaliA [ Thu Apr 03, 2008 16:18 ]
Post subject:  Re: New Coins
myoptika wrote:
Mr Chris wrote:
That or livestock. I quite fancy going to the newsagents accompanied by a camel, three sheep and a goat. Not sure how you'd break a goat for change, though.


That's easy - it's usually three hens.


<Looks at RHS side of the screen>

That's that Devonshire joke fucked, then.

EDIT: LHS of screen, you oaf, maliA!
Author:  Malc [ Thu Apr 03, 2008 21:31 ]
Post subject:  Re: New Coins
MaliA wrote:
myoptika wrote:
Mr Chris wrote:
That or livestock. I quite fancy going to the newsagents accompanied by a camel, three sheep and a goat. Not sure how you'd break a goat for change, though.


That's easy - it's usually three hens.


<Looks at RHS side of the screen>

That's that Devonshire joke fucked, then.

EDIT: LHS of screen, you oaf, maliA!


/me slaps Mali A
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