Formula 1

DBSnappa · **Posted:** Thu Oct 16, 2008 18:26

Mr Dave wrote:

Grim... wrote:

That's right, they did an interview with him after Jenson won.

I was sufficiently sickened by Allens fit that I didn't watch most of the after race show.

Jenson's Dad is supposed to be a bit "gangsta" so I've heard.

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oh and in reply to "It's basically a discussion about the whiter-than-white Hamilton and the evil, evil Massa.", I'd say that the main bone of contention I have is with the FIA Mosley really, which long preceeded Hamilton ever entering the sport. It's him who put the current stewarding system in (for the sake of speedy decisions, apparently) which really is broken.

The two biggest, most highly competitive egos in F1 are probably Alonso and Hamilton and I have to say it's nice to see these guys drive hard.
And not apologise for it.
What depresses me most about the sport is the number of bloody make-weights in it.

Grim... · **Posted:** Thu Oct 16, 2008 19:11

French Grand Prix cancelled for financial reasons
That's a worrying precedent.

AceAceBaby · **Posted:** Thu Oct 16, 2008 19:32

It would be at least as much to do with Ecclestone's outrageous fees as any wider economic problems. I know he always says there are plenty of places queuing up to host F1, to get the older venues to cough up, but they can't all have night races to suit European TV schedules. He'll have to adjust his bargaining position or lose the venues he has.

Dudley · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 8679

AceAceBaby wrote:

Touring cars has contemptible blighters like Matt Neal in it though. Even F1 drivers don't stoop as low as he does.

It's amusing, he was utter shit in the Bathurst 1000 last weekend, putting a Supercheap Auto car in the wall, off the road and just about everywhere you shouldn't multiple times.

Meanwhile, over at Triple-8's Team Vodafone, Fabrizio Giovanardi drove an excellent race to 12th place overall.

AceAceBaby · **Posted:** Thu Oct 16, 2008 20:25

I saw the supercheap in the wall, I didn't realize he was driving it. I wanted to watch the whole race but it clashed with the GP or sleep time for the GP or something. I had the replay running on motors tv the other night but I wasn't really paying attention.

Dudley · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 8679

Yeah, he was sharing their second car with Boris Said.

myp · **Posted:** Thu Oct 16, 2008 21:33

At least he didn't wreck an expensive car.

Dudley · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 8679

Indeed.

He did however wreck a car emblazoned with the logo of the title sponsor of the race, which is not a career building move.

Especially as last time he attempted the race he was 3 laps down in 18th, then the leaders came up to lap him and this happened.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0IKpiKLv1o

Zio · **Joined:** 31st Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 6093

I met Matt Neal at Brands Hatch during the final 3 stages of the BTCC 2006 season and he struck me as a tit then. A very tall tit, I might add.

Curiosity · **Posted:** Sat Oct 18, 2008 12:46

Seriously, how rubbish is Kovalainen?

MaliA · **Posted:** Sat Oct 18, 2008 13:56

DBSnappa wrote:

Mr Dave wrote:

Grim... wrote:

That's right, they did an interview with him after Jenson won.

I was sufficiently sickened by Allens fit that I didn't watch most of the after race show.

Jenson's Dad is supposed to be a bit "gangsta" so I've heard.

Jenson's PA is the wife of the boss of a friend of mine. I'll ask in a bit.

AceAceBaby · **Posted:** Sat Oct 18, 2008 17:20

Curiosity wrote:

Seriously, how rubbish is Kovalainen?

At least a bit.

Grim... · **Posted:** Sun Oct 19, 2008 7:33

Well, I'm up and watching live.
Telling that the thing I'm hoping for most is a controvery-free finish.

Mr Dave · **Posted:** Sun Oct 19, 2008 9:40

That was pretty dull.

Grim... · **Posted:** Sun Oct 19, 2008 9:53

ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view!

Pretty dull? They might of well have stopped after qualifying. Most boring race of the year, IMO.

[edit]Added spoiler for people that are watching at lunchtime.

DBSnappa · **Posted:** Sun Oct 19, 2008 10:09

Grim... wrote:

Well, I'm up and watching live.
Telling that the thing I'm hoping for most is a controvery-free finish.

Which team does he drive for?

DBSnappa · **Posted:** Sun Oct 19, 2008 10:12

Grim... wrote:

ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view!

Pretty dull? They might of well have stopped after qualifying. Most boring race of the year, IMO.

ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view!

You should have done what I did and stayed in bed until 9:15am I quite enjoyed the end of the race - I particularly liked Rob Smedley's admission after the race

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[edit]Added spoiler for people that are watching at lunchtime.

Grim... · **Posted:** Sun Oct 19, 2008 10:37

Fuck, I missed that bit! What did he say?

MaliA · **Posted:** Sun Oct 19, 2008 10:48

I got up at 9ish, watched them finish, it was really, really dull. And then watched MOTD, and now I'm here.

Honestly, I would love to enjoy it, but it's jsut dull.

chinnyhill10 · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 15695

markg wrote:

Grim... wrote:

Aside - does anything else find something not quite right about Hamilton's dad?

In what way? Just how he's always there you mean?

Working for Radio 5 isn't he? So yes, he will always be there.

Curiosity · **Posted:** Sun Oct 19, 2008 12:31

I thought 'Team Orders' were against the rules these days?

Dudley · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 8679

They are. That wasn't team orders, that was just Kimi happening to be disastrously slower than Massa at that part of the race...

Yeah, I can't keep a straight face either.

DBSnappa · **Posted:** Sun Oct 19, 2008 14:33

Grim... wrote:

Fuck, I missed that bit! What did he say?

He basically admitted that Hamilton is a better and faster driver than Massa because he said Ferrari could beat the McLaren but couldn't beat it with Hamilton driving.

Grim... · **Posted:** Sun Oct 19, 2008 15:24

Dudley wrote:

They are. That wasn't team orders, that was just Kimi happening to be disastrously slower than Massa at that part of the race...

Yeah, I can't keep a straight face either.

You what? That was Kimi letting Massa go through. It's got nothing to do with team orders (which should be allowed, IMO), it's what any driver would do in the same situation.

Dudley · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 8679

Grim... wrote:

Dudley wrote:

They are. That wasn't team orders, that was just Kimi happening to be disastrously slower than Massa at that part of the race...

Yeah, I can't keep a straight face either.

You what? That was Kimi letting Massa go through. It's got nothing to do with team orders (which should be allowed, IMO), it's what any driver would do in the same situation.

Oh of course it's team orders.

In that before the race the team said "If you're ahead of him late on, you WILL let him by".

It's just it's legal if you pretend it was 100% the driver's decision to give up a place and money to no benefit to himself apart from not getting sacked....which surely makes it a team order again

I agree though, of course the should be allowed and a polite word should be had to not do a Ferrari 2002.

Mr Dave · **Posted:** Mon Oct 20, 2008 1:12

chinnyhill10 wrote:

markg wrote:

Grim... wrote:

Aside - does anything else find something not quite right about Hamilton's dad?

In what way? Just how he's always there you mean?

Working for Radio 5 isn't he? So yes, he will always be there.

No, that's Maurice Hamilton, who isn't related.

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Generally speaking, I think the Massa Raikkonen thing was fair enough, if more than a little classless - Yes, Massa does need that much help. He wasn't anywhere near the pace of Raikkonen.

myp · **Posted:** Mon Oct 20, 2008 11:17

What's the betting that Alonso tries to take out Hamilton in Brazil?

Dudley · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 8679

And then gets given a 10 second un-penalty.

Everyone else has to come into the pits and stop for 10 seconds except him.

myp · **Posted:** Mon Oct 20, 2008 11:25

That's the stupid thing, isn't it? Alonso would get a penalty, but it wouldn't affect Massa at all. If this happened I don't think I'd be able to watch F1 ever again.

Mr Dave · **Posted:** Mon Oct 20, 2008 11:31

The fallout would be... interesting. I don't think Alonso would last that long in the sport though.

Curiosity · **Posted:** Mon Oct 20, 2008 11:51

Mr Dave wrote:

The fallout would be... interesting. I don't think Alonso would last that long in the sport though.

It's not qutie the same, but Schumacher lasted after he won the title by intentionally ramming Hill off the coruse...

Plissken · **Posted:** Mon Oct 20, 2008 12:02

Curiosity wrote:

It's not qutie the same, but Schumacher lasted after he won the title when Damon Hill was illegally in the place where he wanted to be

FIA FTFY

Dudley · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 8679

Curiosity wrote:

Mr Dave wrote:

The fallout would be... interesting. I don't think Alonso would last that long in the sport though.

It's not qutie the same, but Schumacher lasted after he won the title by intentionally ramming Villeneuve off the course some years after winning one because Damon Hill has no spacial awareness,

FTFY.

Or a far better example. Senna's move in Japan 1990 that he admitted to.

I remain amazed he never faced criminal charges over that one.

myp · **Posted:** Mon Oct 20, 2008 12:33

Karma more than tipped the balance the other way over that one, however.

Grim... · **Posted:** Mon Oct 20, 2008 12:38

Dr Awkward wrote:

That's the stupid thing, isn't it? Alonso would get a penalty, but it wouldn't affect Massa at all. If this happened I don't think I'd be able to watch F1 ever again.

They can't exactly give Massa a penalty for something Alonso did though.
It would be awesome TV if that did happen.

Dudley · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 8679

If Alonso was stupid enough to do that, you can guarantee one of Rosberg or Sutil would have "issues" while being lapped by Massa though.

Or probably Bourdais, especially if he knows he's out after this year.

Curiosity · **Posted:** Mon Oct 20, 2008 14:04

Grim... wrote:

Dr Awkward wrote:

That's the stupid thing, isn't it? Alonso would get a penalty, but it wouldn't affect Massa at all. If this happened I don't think I'd be able to watch F1 ever again.

They can't exactly give Massa a penalty for something Alonso did though.
It would be awesome TV if that did happen.

I genuinely believe that Lewis would get out of his car and lamp him one in the face (after he'd taken off his helmet).

Grim... · **Posted:** Mon Oct 20, 2008 14:18

Yah, that'd be good. F1 could use a fight or two. Closest we came was when Schumacher stormed off down to DC's pit garage and looked like he was going to lamp him one for slowing down a load in the rain, causing Schumey to hit the back of him.

DBSnappa · **Posted:** Mon Oct 20, 2008 14:26

Grim... wrote:

Yah, that'd be good. F1 could use a fight or two. Closest we came was when Schumacher stormed off down to DC's pit garage and looked like he was going to lamp him one for slowing down a load in the rain, causing Schumey to hit the back of him.

I remember that. I think the last person to get lamped in F1 was Eddie Irvine by a certain A Senna, wasn't it.
It's all a bit fucking po faced nowadays so I quite like all the drivers sulking about Hamilton being an arrogant bastard.

Mr Dave · **Posted:** Mon Oct 20, 2008 16:29

F1 was quite different during Sennas time. I don't think he would've gotten away with that with the way things are today.

DBSnappa · **Posted:** Tue Oct 21, 2008 17:18

I hope you lot have all filled this in
http://www.ingf1racingmagazinefansurvey.com/

AceAceBaby · **Posted:** Tue Oct 21, 2008 20:15

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehLyDof0NWs

rar!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_Y0aBeEJro

Something I noticed though, how slow the cars look compared to the twitchy beasts of today.

Grim... · **Posted:** Tue Oct 21, 2008 23:51

That's a rubbish survey.

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Q18. Among the technical innovations next season will be Kinetic Energy Recovery Systems (KERS). Which of the following statements best sums up your views on KERS?
It’s an ingenious way for F1 to be both more energy-efficient and more exciting
It’s an interesting concept but I’m reserving judgement until next season
I am concerned about the safety and/or practicality of KERS devices
I don’t know what KERS is and fear it will baffle ordinary fans

Talk about being forced into an answer! Where's "Keep that hippy shit out of F1 cars and concentrate on making the go faster"?

MaliA · **Posted:** Wed Oct 22, 2008 6:46

Grim... wrote:

That's a rubbish survey.

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Q18. Among the technical innovations next season will be Kinetic Energy Recovery Systems (KERS). Which of the following statements best sums up your views on KERS?
It’s an ingenious way for F1 to be both more energy-efficient and more exciting
It’s an interesting concept but I’m reserving judgement until next season
I am concerned about the safety and/or practicality of KERS devices
I don’t know what KERS is and fear it will baffle ordinary fans

Talk about being forced into an answer! Where's "Keep that hippy shit out of F1 cars and concentrate on making the go faster"?

Heh. I think it's going to get even more dull next year.

MaliA · **Posted:** Wed Oct 22, 2008 6:52

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F1 hosted its inaugural night race this year in Singapore. What do you feel was the best aspect of the night race?

To see the drivers performing in different racing conditions (showcased different talents)
Seeing how the cars performed at night
Seeing how the team strategies changed to deal with racing at night
The spectacle, it was hard to believe they could drive like that at night

Lacks option for, "I dislike getting out of bed prior to 10am of a Sunday morning."

MaliA · **Posted:** Sat Nov 01, 2008 14:53

Qualifying is on at 1510 on one of the iTV channels, fans, for the epically artificially enhanced season nailbiting three way finale. I'll be watching it as anything is better than preliminary rulings.

Dudley · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 8679

3 way?

I'll be watchng the Chelsea match instead of qualifying but going to my parents for grand prix goodness tomorrow.

MaliA · **Posted:** Sun Nov 02, 2008 12:51

Dudley wrote:

3 way?

D'oh!

Hamilton did well, letting the 2 Ferraris out in front, so he can have an easy afternoon now, and simply follow them home.

GovernmentYard · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 5318

Jesus, look at that rain!

hehe this is going to be a fucking mess

GovernmentYard · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 5318

So, slicks needd now, and some teams are on wets, but in half an hour, rain again. Psych!

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