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Author:  kalmar [ Mon Nov 02, 2009 18:30 ]
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Ignore the gauges and listen to the engine (and use your nose). You can't miss a slipping clutch.

Author:  BikNorton [ Mon Nov 02, 2009 20:45 ]
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No, I was only joking, I know it's the clutch. The way the revs bolt up towards 3 with relatively little propulsion and that.

Author:  chinnyhill10 [ Mon Nov 02, 2009 21:06 ]
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So, 1000 RPM difference between 70mph and 80mph in a Golf TDi?

Well granted I have the GT which is the 2 litre TDi and also has 6 gears but for me in 5th the difference is 400RPM, and in 6th 200 RPM.

Conclusion is I can't see how it is possible.

Author:  metalangel [ Mon Nov 02, 2009 21:11 ]
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I am fairly certain that 1000rpm is NOT the difference between 70 and 80mph in my VAG TDi-engined car... in fourth or fifth.

Author:  kalmar [ Mon Nov 02, 2009 21:23 ]
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chinnyhill10 wrote:
Conclusion is I can't see how it is possible.


Correct, it isn't. Mali has even admitted as much! :smug:

Author:  MrChris [ Tue Nov 03, 2009 10:24 ]
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I checked my dials last night on the drive home - there was approx 800rpm difference between 60 and 70 and between 70 and 80 - the needles on the speedo and the rev-o-meter moved up and down at the same rate.

Result = Kalmar is correct.

Author:  Grim... [ Tue Nov 03, 2009 10:26 ]
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Mr Chris wrote:
there was approx 800rpm difference between 60 and 70 and between 70 and 80

If there is 800rpm difference between 60 and 70 then there has to be 800rpm difference between any speeds 10mph apart.

How come everyone is finding the maths so difficult?

Author:  MrChris [ Tue Nov 03, 2009 10:27 ]
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Grim... wrote:
Mr Chris wrote:
I checked my dials last night on the drive home - there was approx 800rpm difference between 60 and 70 and between 70 and 80 - the needles on the speedo and the rev-o-meter moved up and down at the same rate.

Um... If there is 800rpm difference between 60 and 70 then there has to be 800rpm difference between any speeds 10mph apart.

How come everyone is finding the maths so difficult?


I'm not. I was giving empirical evidence to back up Kalmar's (and your) assertion that there has to be the same rpm difference and prove that Mali is, for once, being wrong. Seeing as he's being so boneheaded about it.

Author:  Grim... [ Tue Nov 03, 2009 10:32 ]
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Oh right. I thought you were expressing surprise.

Author:  MrChris [ Tue Nov 03, 2009 10:33 ]
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We have a dimlie for that, Grimmeh. Its absence was notable.

Author:  Grim... [ Tue Nov 03, 2009 10:59 ]
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I'm having brain fail.
Which of these do I need to fit a 31 10.50 R15 tyre?
http://www.allterraintyres.co.uk/index. ... piiejdrnf1

Author:  metalangel [ Tue Nov 03, 2009 15:25 ]
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MetalAngel wrote:
I am fairly certain that 1000rpm is NOT the difference between 70 and 80mph in my VAG TDi-engined car... in fourth or fifth.


In fourth (1.9 TDi, 110bhp), 70mph is dead on 3,000rpm, 80mph is about 3,300rpm. Traffic too heavy to have time to check fifth.

Author:  Cras [ Tue Nov 03, 2009 17:35 ]
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Car delivery date confirmed for next Tuesday! Paperwork signed and returned! Excited!

Author:  MrChris [ Tue Nov 03, 2009 17:39 ]
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*Awaits next phone call to Craster saying it's delayed*

Author:  chinnyhill10 [ Tue Nov 03, 2009 18:49 ]
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Mr Chris wrote:
*Awaits next phone call to Craster saying it's delayed*


As a former Sam Coupe owner, he'll take that on the chin. Then when it arrives bugged he'll take it on the chin. Then when the bug fixes are late he'll take that on the chin as well.

Frankly he'll be happy if he has something that half works after 6 months at which point the manufacturer will go bust.

Author:  BikNorton [ Tue Nov 03, 2009 19:05 ]
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Been reading about spigot bearings. Seems that not only do they exist (I was dubious) the diagnosis of it needing replacing was not only likely correct but timely - mine's probably progressed to disintegration now, given the increasing difficulty of selecting 2nd and particularly 3rd. So that's clutch, spigot bearing and guibo. Plus alleged leaking of geabox and diff.

I won't have to pay more than £50 for that, right?

Author:  Grim... [ Tue Nov 03, 2009 19:55 ]
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"No".

Author:  kalmar [ Tue Nov 03, 2009 20:45 ]
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BikNorton wrote:
difficulty of selecting 2nd and particularly 3rd... alleged leaking of gearbox ...


Hope I'm wrong but that sounds more like gearbox input shaft bearing to me.

Author:  Zio [ Wed Nov 04, 2009 2:00 ]
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Chaps! I managed to get a stone lodged into the passenger side front brake calliper today as I was leaving work's car park. Sadly I was half way down the road before I noticed the awful screeching coming from the wheel. When I gently reversed the car into a layby, the stone got dislodged and everything seems fine, though it's definitely scored the brake disc.

The 5-day old brake disc, I should mention. >:(
(Had my MOT last Friday and had to have the front pads and discs replaced as part of it).

Will this scoring on the disc be a problem?

Author:  BikNorton [ Wed Nov 04, 2009 9:02 ]
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kalmar wrote:
BikNorton wrote:
difficulty of selecting 2nd and particularly 3rd... alleged leaking of gearbox ...
Hope I'm wrong but that sounds more like gearbox input shaft bearing to me.
The spigot bearing going can cause the same thing apparently.

My dad's recommended a transmission specialist, I'll take it there.

I wouldn't worry too much about the brake disc scoring Zio, at 5 days old you're still bedding the disc in anyway. Couple of months and it'll probably disappear, unless it was a diamond.

Author:  MaliA [ Wed Nov 04, 2009 9:12 ]
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Zio wrote:
Chaps! I managed to get a stone lodged into the passenger side front brake calliper today as I was leaving work's car park. Sadly I was half way down the road before I noticed the awful screeching coming from the wheel. When I gently reversed the car into a layby, the stone got dislodged and everything seems fine, though it's definitely scored the brake disc.

The 5-day old brake disc, I should mention. >:(
(Had my MOT last Friday and had to have the front pads and discs replaced as part of it).

Will this scoring on the disc be a problem?


MOT failure, innit?

Anyway, brake discs are dirt cheap and easy to change (apparently).

How far up the M40 did you go the other day, by the way?

Author:  Grim... [ Wed Nov 04, 2009 10:15 ]
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Zio wrote:
Will this scoring on the disc be a problem?

No.

Author:  MrChris [ Wed Nov 04, 2009 10:17 ]
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chinnyhill10 wrote:
... something that half works .... the manufacturer will go bust.

You did *know* it's a Renault, right? :)

Author:  Cras [ Wed Nov 04, 2009 10:19 ]
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IT WILL BE THE BEST CAR EVER.

I may even change my avatar to a Renault logo.

Author:  MrChris [ Wed Nov 04, 2009 10:21 ]
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Craster wrote:
IT WILL BE THE BEST CAR EVER.

I may even change my avatar to a Renault logo.

The brilliant thing is, you can keep telling yourself that and you'll live happily ever after never having been disabused of that notion, because you're never getting the car.

Author:  MaliA [ Wed Nov 04, 2009 10:21 ]
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Craster wrote:
IT WILL BE THE BEST CAR EVER.

I may even change my avatar to a Renault logo.


Someone pulled up in a 59 Clio Sport down this week.

Author:  MaliA [ Wed Nov 04, 2009 10:22 ]
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Mr Chris wrote:
Craster wrote:
IT WILL BE THE BEST CAR EVER.

I may even change my avatar to a Renault logo.

The brilliant thing is, you can keep telling yourself that and you'll live happily ever after never having been disabused of that notion, because you're never getting the car.


I was having a chat about this yesterday with someone and I decided it's pointless my getting a Porsche or a Fireblade as I'd get bored of them within a week, and that's why I can't have nice things.

Author:  BikNorton [ Wed Nov 04, 2009 10:56 ]
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Grim... wrote:
Zio wrote:
Will this scoring on the disc be a problem?
No.
What, you mean... I got something right?
:o 8)

Author:  Grim... [ Wed Nov 04, 2009 11:28 ]
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I'm not sure I'd say that getting a stone in your disc is 'right'.
But I've had hundreds stuck on my Tomcat, as you can imagine. The scores wear away soon enough.

Author:  Zardoz [ Wed Nov 04, 2009 11:30 ]
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Craster wrote:
Car delivery date confirmed for next Tuesday! Paperwork signed and returned! Excited!

C U Next Tuesday!

Author:  Sir Taxalot [ Wed Nov 04, 2009 11:32 ]
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I've had it in the focus twice, too (a stone lodge in a brake that is). It's annoying, but wasn't really that problematic.

Although, i suppose it depends on how deep the scoring is. I'd not be too inclined to worry, myself.

Author:  BikNorton [ Wed Nov 04, 2009 11:50 ]
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Grim... wrote:
I'm not sure I'd say that getting a stone in your disc is 'right'.
But I've had hundreds stuck on my Tomcat, as you can imagine. The scores wear away soon enough.
I didn't say it was right, I said it would be fine.

Author:  KovacsC [ Wed Nov 04, 2009 11:55 ]
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Is it not time to get a new car?

Author:  MaliA [ Wed Nov 04, 2009 11:57 ]
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Friend of mine needed two new tyres. So she bought them. Only they were attached to a new car.

Author:  metalangel [ Wed Nov 04, 2009 12:06 ]
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KovacsC wrote:
Is it not time to get a new car?


Yeah, an electric one, to kill some of those pesky blind people.

Author:  DBSnappa [ Wed Nov 04, 2009 12:10 ]
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http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/news/defau ... ryId=20922

This is a design concept for a motorbike which utilises a turbocharged 4 cyl subaru boxer engine. Hmm

Author:  Cras [ Wed Nov 04, 2009 12:24 ]
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Why do all concept vehicles look proper wicked sci-fi, when they take those technologies and put them in boring boxmobiles for production?

Author:  metalangel [ Wed Nov 04, 2009 12:51 ]
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Craster wrote:
Why do all concept vehicles look proper wicked sci-fi, when they take those technologies and put them in boring boxmobiles for production?


MetalAngel wrote:
New contender for the world's ugliest car, the Lincoln MKT:

Image


Direct descendant of the MKR concept.

Author:  Cras [ Wed Nov 04, 2009 12:56 ]
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Well clearly we were never including concept cars from Lincoln.

Author:  Grim... [ Wed Nov 04, 2009 12:59 ]
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What's the reflected car?
My money's on a Cayenne.

Author:  DBSnappa [ Wed Nov 04, 2009 13:03 ]
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Concepts nowadays are more studies of new materials, propulsion and safety technologies, dressed in eye catching but impractical (for legislative or manufacturing purposes) clothing.

Have you seen that new BMW concept car?

massive link made shorter

This looks very cool.

Author:  DBSnappa [ Wed Nov 04, 2009 13:05 ]
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Grim... wrote:
What's the reflected car?
My money's on a Cayenne.

What with it being on a Lincoln stand I'd bet it's the Lincoln MKX

Author:  Cras [ Wed Nov 04, 2009 13:13 ]
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DBSnappa wrote:
Concepts nowadays are more studies of new materials, propulsion and safety technologies, dressed in eye catching but impractical (for legislative or manufacturing purposes) clothing.

Have you seen that new BMW concept car?

massive link made shorter

This looks very cool.


Well quite - and wouldn't it be better to be ripped up by that on the Motorway that another bloody identikit 911 or 360?

Author:  MrChris [ Wed Nov 04, 2009 13:23 ]
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I long for a 1970s/1980s 911. They've got proper soul.

Author:  DBSnappa [ Wed Nov 04, 2009 13:34 ]
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Craster wrote:
DBSnappa wrote:
Concepts nowadays are more studies of new materials, propulsion and safety technologies, dressed in eye catching but impractical (for legislative or manufacturing purposes) clothing.

Have you seen that new BMW concept car?

massive link made shorter

This looks very cool.


Well quite - and wouldn't it be better to be ripped up by that on the Motorway that another bloody identikit 911 or 360?

My experience of 911s or Ferraris is that they're usually driven quite conservatively on the motorway - it's usually diesel vans or dicks in Audis and BMWs who drive like they've recently been granted immortality. Don't know why this is though the cynic in me thinks that the motorway police would be more likely to nick you for doing 85mph in a Ferrari than in a saloon which could drive equally fast. Anecdotal evidence I know, but I have a friend who owned a F430 spider for six months and he reckoned he got pulled twice in six months in that for the most spurious reasons and not once in the three years prior he ran a 997.

Author:  KovacsC [ Wed Nov 04, 2009 13:38 ]
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Might be beacuse the Police want to look at the car

Author:  DBSnappa [ Wed Nov 04, 2009 13:40 ]
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KovacsC wrote:
Might be beacuse the Police want to look at the car
I don't doubt that, but it's hardly a legitimate reason to stop and delay someone is it.

Author:  metalangel [ Wed Nov 04, 2009 13:47 ]
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DBSnappa wrote:
KovacsC wrote:
Might be beacuse the Police want to look at the car
I don't doubt that, but it's hardly a legitimate reason to stop and delay someone is it.


The police don't need a reason to stop you.

Author:  Zardoz [ Wed Nov 04, 2009 13:52 ]
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They Can't Stand Losing You.

Author:  KovacsC [ Wed Nov 04, 2009 14:28 ]
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DBSnappa wrote:
KovacsC wrote:
Might be beacuse the Police want to look at the car
I don't doubt that, but it's hardly a legitimate reason to stop and delay someone is it.


Ah so you think the Police need a legitimate reason...

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