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Author:  Bamba [ Mon Mar 30, 2020 16:37 ]
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Trooper wrote:
Get a second opinion from a car mechanic.


Giphy "applause":
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Author:  DBSnappa [ Wed Apr 01, 2020 14:04 ]
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Is the central locking sluggish. Does the ignition click and the starter motor half rotate? In which case it’s the battery probably. If you turn the ignition and you can put lights, fans, wipers on, then it’s more likely to be the starter motor. Hit it with a mallet

Author:  DavPaz [ Wed Apr 01, 2020 14:15 ]
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I have acquired jump leads. What will a jump start prove?

I have also acquired a mobile mechanic for tomorrow afternoon.

Author:  DavPaz [ Wed Apr 01, 2020 14:16 ]
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DBSnappa wrote:
Is the central locking sluggish. Does the ignition click and the starter motor half rotate? In which case it’s the battery probably. If you turn the ignition and you can put lights, fans, wipers on, then it’s more likely to be the starter motor. Hit it with a mallet

I'll head out and do some testing after the "working" day is done. Thanks for the tips

Author:  Grim... [ Wed Apr 01, 2020 14:17 ]
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DavPaz wrote:
I have acquired jump leads. What will a jump start prove?

Not a great deal, but it might get you a running car.

I reckon it's battery, considering it's been sitting for a while.

Author:  DBSnappa [ Wed Apr 01, 2020 14:28 ]
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Grim... wrote:
DavPaz wrote:
I have acquired jump leads. What will a jump start prove?

Not a great deal, but it might get you a running car.

I reckon it's battery, considering it's been sitting for a while.


Also, do a quick google search on jump starting cars, as you can fry fuses or worse sometimes, if you do it wrong.

Author:  MaliA [ Wed Apr 01, 2020 14:54 ]
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DBSnappa wrote:
Grim... wrote:
DavPaz wrote:
I have acquired jump leads. What will a jump start prove?

Not a great deal, but it might get you a running car.

I reckon it's battery, considering it's been sitting for a while.


Also, do a quick google search on jump starting cars, as you can fry fuses or worse sometimes, if you do it wrong.


*Waves*

Author:  GazChap [ Wed Apr 01, 2020 16:27 ]
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DavPaz wrote:
I have also acquired a mobile mechanic for tomorrow afternoon.

I thought we told you you needed a car mechanic?!

Author:  Sir Taxalot [ Thu Apr 02, 2020 2:36 ]
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MaliA wrote:
DBSnappa wrote:
Grim... wrote:
DavPaz wrote:
I have acquired jump leads. What will a jump start prove?

Not a great deal, but it might get you a running car.

I reckon it's battery, considering it's been sitting for a while.


Also, do a quick google search on jump starting cars, as you can fry fuses or worse sometimes, if you do it wrong.


*Waves*


What happened? I've always just jump started cars with little regard and gotten away with it...

Author:  Grim... [ Thu Apr 02, 2020 9:36 ]
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If you have too little regard and get you + and - mixed up, bad things occur.

Author:  MaliA [ Thu Apr 02, 2020 9:42 ]
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To be honest, I can't remember but it involved waiting around for the AA.

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Thu Apr 02, 2020 9:43 ]
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Grim... wrote:
If you have too little regard and get you + and - mixed up, bad things occur.

I dropped a spanner across battery terminals once. Makes you realise how much energy is stored in there. (It welded itself on in an impressive shower of sparks that left bright splotches on my vision for ages.)

Author:  Grim... [ Thu Apr 02, 2020 9:46 ]
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How did you get it off again?

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Thu Apr 02, 2020 9:48 ]
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Grim... wrote:
How did you get it off again?

With a fucking big pry bar. Probably got lucky, it hadn't made very direct contact so wasn't that solidly affixed.

Author:  Zardoz [ Thu Apr 02, 2020 9:53 ]
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Didn’t that completely bork the battery?

Author:  DBSnappa [ Thu Apr 02, 2020 10:06 ]
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I’m sure most of the time nothing will happen if you connect to correct terminals. It’s more that modern cars are complex electronically and you can fry expensive bits of circuitry if you’re unlucky. Last time I looked, the recommendation was to run heaters, lights, radio, engine etc on the healthy car, and connect the negative clip on the receiving car to a metal part of the engine bay, not the terminal.

Author:  Squirt [ Thu Apr 02, 2020 10:25 ]
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Yeah, my jump starter battery thingy says there is a "risk of explosion" if you connect the negative lead to the terminal.

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Thu Apr 02, 2020 10:27 ]
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Zardoz wrote:
Didn’t that completely bork the battery?

In theory, but it still held juice and all my cars then were so cheap it wasn't even on the top 10 list of most previously broken bits.

Author:  Grim... [ Thu Apr 02, 2020 11:15 ]
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Squirt wrote:
Yeah, my jump starter battery thingy says there is a "risk of explosion" if you connect the negative lead to the terminal.

Only due to sparks, though.

Author:  krazywookie [ Thu Apr 02, 2020 11:37 ]
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Grim... wrote:
Squirt wrote:
Yeah, my jump starter battery thingy says there is a "risk of explosion" if you connect the negative lead to the terminal.

Only due to sparks, though.

Charging batteries have a habit of exploding though, they release... A Gas when charging then when you disconnect the leads there's sparks then bang! It happened to a guy I worked with, but he was a twat so I didn't care.

Author:  MaliA [ Thu Apr 02, 2020 11:47 ]
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krazywookie wrote:
Grim... wrote:
Squirt wrote:
Yeah, my jump starter battery thingy says there is a "risk of explosion" if you connect the negative lead to the terminal.

Only due to sparks, though.

Charging batteries have a habit of exploding though, they release... A Gas when charging then when you disconnect the leads there's sparks then bang! It happened to a guy I worked with, but he was a twat so I didn't care.


The ER5 had a knackered reg/rec and it was chucking too much power into the battery or something which caused the casing to swell. Cost a fortune to get that diagnosed and.fixed.

I think I knackered it riding through deep floodwater.

Author:  krazywookie [ Thu Apr 02, 2020 11:54 ]
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I've given my old 3L V6 to a mate who's going to try to jam it into his mgb.

Will it fit?

Author:  Trooper [ Thu Apr 02, 2020 12:07 ]
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Everything always fits, it's just a matter of how much fabrication. Depends if he wants a bonnet hump or not!
That sump isn't going to get in that gap...

Author:  krazywookie [ Thu Apr 02, 2020 12:53 ]
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Trooper wrote:
Everything always fits, it's just a matter of how much fabrication. Depends if he wants a bonnet hump or not!
That sump isn't going to get in that gap...

It, uh, might. It might end up a press fit engine.

Author:  Zardoz [ Thu Apr 02, 2020 15:10 ]
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Trooper wrote:
Everything always fits, it's just a matter of how much fabrication. Depends if he wants a bonnet hump or not!
That sump isn't going to get in that gap...

Fit it upside down.

Author:  MaliA [ Thu Apr 02, 2020 15:11 ]
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Zardoz wrote:
Trooper wrote:
Everything always fits, it's just a matter of how much fabrication. Depends if he wants a bonnet hump or not!
That sump isn't going to get in that gap...

Fit it upside down.


Stick it in the back

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Thu Apr 02, 2020 15:37 ]
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krazywookie wrote:
It, uh, might. It might end up a press fit engine.
Keep pressing harder until it fits?

Author:  DBSnappa [ Thu Apr 02, 2020 15:39 ]
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
krazywookie wrote:
It, uh, might. It might end up a press fit engine.
Keep pressing harder until it fits?

That sounds too simple. I suggest taking off and dropping it from orbit.

Author:  krazywookie [ Thu Apr 02, 2020 17:45 ]
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He took the sump off today and found 1 small screw and a lot of broken plastic. I've told him this is completely fine, no metal in there. No idea how all the plastic got in though, must be part of the breather system or something.

Author:  Sir Taxalot [ Fri Apr 03, 2020 1:06 ]
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DBSnappa wrote:
I’m sure most of the time nothing will happen if you connect to correct terminals. It’s more that modern cars are complex electronically and you can fry expensive bits of circuitry if you’re unlucky. Last time I looked, the recommendation was to run heaters, lights, radio, engine etc on the healthy car, and connect the negative clip on the receiving car to a metal part of the engine bay, not the terminal.


I mean, yes I'm careful to connect to the appropriate terminal (or sometimes the bit of the body that the negative terminal is connected to, if that's easier to reach), and not to let the clips touch each other, but other than that I never remember which order to put them on and take them off and while I've heard about running the fans and that I've never bothered.

The bag the jump leads came in has a warning about cars with electronic control systems (but that's pretty much all cars innit?). Are they just being cagey with their disclaimers in case of those rare/unlucky events?

Author:  Grim... [ Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:20 ]
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Sir Taxalot wrote:
other than that I never remember which order to put them on and take them off

Makes no difference.

Author:  krazywookie [ Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:27 ]
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Grim... wrote:
Sir Taxalot wrote:
other than that I never remember which order to put them on and take them off

Makes no difference.

Negative first, less likely to clatter the body with a positively charged spanner.

Author:  Grim... [ Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:28 ]
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krazywookie wrote:
Grim... wrote:
Sir Taxalot wrote:
other than that I never remember which order to put them on and take them off

Makes no difference.

Negative first, less likely to clatter the body with a positively charged spanner.

I tend to do - first, but also try not to throw live terminals around.

Author:  Cras [ Fri Apr 03, 2020 11:36 ]
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I've seen you spot weld.

Author:  Grim... [ Fri Apr 03, 2020 11:42 ]
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That's brave, I close my eyes.

Author:  Warhead [ Fri Apr 03, 2020 14:07 ]
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My least favourite time of year, getting the Fusion through its MOT.

It needed four new tyres, but I knew that anyway, so was prepared for the extra cost. Cam belt was overdue for replacement so that’s been done as well, and the water pump. Other than advisories for a bit of sill corrosion, it’s been given the all clear.

Only bad news is that insurance has gone up from £24 to £25 per month. I guess I’ll take the hit on that rather than shopping around for a cheaper deal.

Author:  Grim... [ Fri Apr 03, 2020 14:10 ]
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I thought MOTs got suspended?

Author:  Goddess Jasmine [ Fri Apr 03, 2020 16:08 ]
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Grim... wrote:
I thought MOTs got suspended?

I think there is a six month allowance now, so you won't get in trouble. But many garages are still doing services, MOTs and repairs if only to keep keyworkers able to get safely to work.

I just popped out and the roads were so empty I had to use my cruise control to stop myself from speeding.

Author:  Warhead [ Fri Apr 03, 2020 16:39 ]
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Goddess Jasmine wrote:
Grim... wrote:
I thought MOTs got suspended?

I think there is a six month allowance now, so you won't get in trouble. But many garages are still doing services, MOTs and repairs if only to keep keyworkers able to get safely to work.

I just popped out and the roads were so empty I had to use my cruise control to stop myself from speeding.

That’s right, but does hat mean that all subsequent dates will be pushed back? The uk.gov website doesn’t make this clear. I needed the service and other work anyway, so it was convenient to do the MOT at the same time.

Author:  Goddess Jasmine [ Fri Apr 03, 2020 16:57 ]
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Warhead wrote:
Goddess Jasmine wrote:
Grim... wrote:
I thought MOTs got suspended?

I think there is a six month allowance now, so you won't get in trouble. But many garages are still doing services, MOTs and repairs if only to keep keyworkers able to get safely to work.

I just popped out and the roads were so empty I had to use my cruise control to stop myself from speeding.

That’s right, but does hat mean that all subsequent dates will be pushed back? The uk.gov website doesn’t make this clear. I needed the service and other work anyway, so it was convenient to do the MOT at the same time.

Good question, I would expect so. Even if you have your MOT/service done six months later, you won't need it doing again 6months after that. (YMMV)

Author:  Zardoz [ Fri Apr 03, 2020 17:39 ]
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Remembered I had a bag of assorted LED bulbs and just had the right type/amount to switch out my interior lights in the Auris.

+4hp

Author:  myp [ Fri Apr 03, 2020 18:06 ]
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Wow, up to 84bhp!

Author:  markg [ Fri Apr 03, 2020 18:47 ]
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Think you should focus more on aero now to keep it planted with the extra power.

Author:  Trooper [ Fri Apr 03, 2020 19:06 ]
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Fold down the rear seats to spread out the weight.

Author:  Zardoz [ Fri Apr 03, 2020 19:41 ]
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Mr Chonks wrote:
Wow, up to 84bhp!

Base 124bhp Hacktewally!

Author:  Zardoz [ Fri Apr 03, 2020 19:42 ]
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markg wrote:
Think you should focus more on aero now to keep it planted with the extra power.

The mdf body kit should help there.

Author:  DavPaz [ Fri Apr 03, 2020 19:44 ]
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Zardoz wrote:
markg wrote:
Think you should focus more on aero now to keep it planted with the extra power.

The mdf body kit should help there.

Image

Author:  Zardoz [ Fri Apr 03, 2020 19:45 ]
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Author:  MaliA [ Fri Apr 03, 2020 19:46 ]
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Zardoz wrote:
markg wrote:
Think you should focus more on aero now to keep it planted with the extra power.

The mdf body kit should help there.


Mali's Design Foundation is based upon function, not form.

Author:  myp [ Fri Apr 03, 2020 20:36 ]
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Zardoz wrote:
Mr Chonks wrote:
Wow, up to 84bhp!

Base 124bhp Hacktewally!

Drive safe

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