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Author:  GazChap [ Thu May 02, 2019 11:51 ]
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Hearthly wrote:
I don't know if that'll change the psychology of it all insofar as it's 'mine' right from the off and I'll feel more inclined to keep it

This won't happen. Take it from me.

Author:  KovacsC [ Thu May 02, 2019 11:55 ]
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Hearthly wrote:
KovacsC wrote:
So what is your next car after this one (or have we done this one?)


I'm not sure really, this will be the newest and most expensive car I've ever had, and since there's no finance involved, it'll be nice to just own the car outright. I don't know if that'll change the psychology of it all insofar as it's 'mine' right from the off and I'll feel more inclined to keep it, plus the depreciation probably isn't going to be pretty.

(The Type-R ran it pretty close at £25K, but a chunk of that was on finance, but that's paid off now thanks to the money I got.)

I guess it comes down to how good of a car the i-30 is, if it's as good as everyone seems to say it is, maybe I'll keep it for the full five year warranty!


i doubt you will make 12 months never mind 5 years.. I am sure a short term 1 year lease would be cheaper in the long run :)

Author:  Zardoz [ Thu May 02, 2019 12:23 ]
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Hearthly wrote:
I don't know if that'll change the psychology of it all insofar as it's 'mine' right from the off and I'll feel more inclined to keep it

Giphy "lolapalooza":
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Author:  Grim... [ Thu May 02, 2019 13:57 ]
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I still makes me antsy that you haven't driven one.

Author:  MaliA [ Thu May 02, 2019 13:58 ]
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Dropping £27k on a car sight unseen is a powerful cash flex. Like picking a wife from a catalogue

Author:  Hearthly [ Thu May 02, 2019 14:01 ]
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It'll be fine. It looks very Focus-esque on the inside and the seats seem similar too.

Also, it's got an extensible thigh shelf, which is something I liked about the S4.

Author:  Trooper [ Thu May 02, 2019 14:03 ]
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All cars pretty much drive the same these days anyway.

Author:  DavPaz [ Thu May 02, 2019 14:17 ]
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Hearthly wrote:
extensible thigh shelf

Come again?

Author:  DBSnappa [ Thu May 02, 2019 14:19 ]
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It’s a four inch section at the front of the seat that can slide forward to provide more under leg support

Author:  DavPaz [ Thu May 02, 2019 14:21 ]
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DBSnappa wrote:
It’s a four inch section at the front of the seat that can slide forward to provide more under leg support

Right. Cool. That's where the 27k went

Author:  myp [ Thu May 02, 2019 15:27 ]
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How is it extensible?

Author:  Hearthly [ Thu May 02, 2019 15:46 ]
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The bit there moves forwards and backwards a bit, I think.

The S4 had it and it was quite useful to get a bit more leg support.

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Author:  BikNorton [ Thu May 02, 2019 16:27 ]
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Both my BMW's had that. Tried it once. It felt weird so I put it back.

Author:  DBSnappa [ Thu May 02, 2019 16:34 ]
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Mr Chonks wrote:
How is it extensible?

There’s a small handle beneath it (on my BMW), and a fold of leather where the gap will be when you pull it forward

Author:  Zardoz [ Thu May 02, 2019 16:49 ]
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I just cut a hole in the back of my drivers seat and stick my arse through it for extra thigh room.

The weight reduction added 2.174bhp

And I look cool as fuck.

Author:  markg [ Thu May 02, 2019 16:51 ]
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Plus you can just put a bucket in the back seat footwell for longer journeys.

Author:  ApplePieOfDestiny [ Thu May 02, 2019 17:07 ]
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BikNorton wrote:
Both my BMW's had that. Tried it once. It felt weird so I put it back.

Its about the only thing I don’t like on my merc, as you can still feel the ridge even when it’s fully closed. And it doesn’t latch perfectly anyway.

Author:  MaliA [ Thu May 02, 2019 17:13 ]
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markg wrote:
Plus you can just put a bucket in the back seat footwell for longer journeys.


Hella flush

Author:  JohnCoffey [ Thu May 02, 2019 17:15 ]
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RS Turbo Recaros had those thigh things. Good they are.

Author:  Sir Taxalot [ Fri May 03, 2019 2:43 ]
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DBSnappa wrote:
Mr Chonks wrote:
How is it extensible?

There’s a small handle beneath it (on my BMW), and a fold of leather where the gap will be when you pull it forward


It's a real trap for crumbs and fluff in that fold - I had this on my leather Recaros.

I found it was comfy to extend the support for long motorway journeys where my left foot wasn't doing much. Relatedly, I love cars with a foot rest in the well, and miss it when it isn't there.

Zardoz wrote:
I just cut a hole in the back of my drivers seat and stick my arse through it for extra thigh room.


That will either make you an incredibly popular or terribly unpopular Uber driver. Perhaps it depends on which part of town you cover.

Author:  krazywookie [ Fri May 03, 2019 15:55 ]
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I suspect mop was being a grammar nerd.

Author:  MaliA [ Fri May 03, 2019 16:04 ]
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I did a 20 minute presentation on hot wheels cars when I was on toys

Author:  Findus Fop [ Fri May 03, 2019 16:05 ]
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MaliA wrote:
I did a 20 minute presentation on hot wheels cars when I was on toys


Helluva drug.

Author:  Zardoz [ Fri May 03, 2019 16:08 ]
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Giphy "like":
https://media2.giphy.com/media/5Knq1ExJ7kqpq/giphy-loop.mp4

Author:  Dr Zoidberg [ Fri May 03, 2019 18:35 ]
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MaliA wrote:
Dropping £27k on a car sight unseen is a powerful cash flex. Like picking a wife from a catalogue


I bought my Mini without seeing it, or driving a Cooper S.
That was under £20k though, so totally fine.

Author:  Mimi [ Fri May 03, 2019 18:44 ]
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Dr Zoidberg wrote:
MaliA wrote:
Dropping £27k on a car sight unseen is a powerful cash flex. Like picking a wife from a catalogue


I bought my Mini without seeing it

And the two of you seem to get on really well. Cute couple, IMO.

Author:  Hearthly [ Sat May 04, 2019 20:54 ]
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Gah! Second puncture in three months, and less than about five days before I get a new car.

Real fucker of a one as well, the tyre pressure warning came on just as I was coming off the mountain on my way back from work, and by the time I got home it looked like this, I could hear the air whooshing out of it.

Very handy on the Sunday evening of a bank holiday weekend when I'm in work for the next two days. (On top of being in work today.)

Fortunately my in-laws have said I can borrow one of their cars for the next two days so my conveyance will be a 1989 Mercedes 190. I'll get some pics, the car is 30 years old and I swear it looks brand new. It's got something daft like 36K genuine miles on it, they didn't buy it new but they were the second owners and they were dead chuffed 'cause they'd always wanted a Mercedes. You know the old saying 'built like a tank?', this thing really is built like a tank.

It's also very slow, and akin to driving a sofa, it doesn't so much 'corner' as vaguely lurch in the direction you want it to go. Eventually.

Author:  Trooper [ Sat May 04, 2019 21:10 ]
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The real question is... Do they want to sell the 190?

Author:  Hearthly [ Sat May 04, 2019 22:12 ]
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Trooper wrote:
The real question is... Do they want to sell the 190?


They've been offered some fairly substantial amounts of cash for it. Examples of the car, in the condition of theirs, combined with the ridiculously low mileage, are really quite rare now.

It's been garaged its whole life too.

It's the 190, not the 190E, so it's got a proper old fashioned carburettor and all that stuff going on. (The 190E had AN EXCITING NEW FUEL INJECTION SYSTEM.)

Feel the power of a 2 litre normally aspirated engine putting out about 3.74bhp (or so it feels like to me, anyway).

Author:  Hearthly [ Sun May 05, 2019 11:45 ]
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I had a perfectly pleasant drive to work over the mountain this morning, once I accepted I wasn't in a modern, fast car, I was more than happy to just cruise over at a steady 60mph, with the engine scarcely over 2000rpm in 5th gear.

Sure the steering isn't tight and responsive, but it's fine. The gear changes aren't like the sports style boxes I'm used to, but they're not vague or unsettling, I never felt like I didn't know what gear I was going for. It's comfortable, rides well, the brakes are a bit crap but one just has to allow for that.

I got the mileage wrong, it's up to 48,000 now but my father in law did confirm it's a 1989 model.

Honestly, it's a car I could easily drive every day. It didn't feel 'old' in any way, if that makes sense, and it genuinely does feel so well put together I can well imagine it running forever. (The 190s were well known to do 250K+ as taxis, with documented examples of many hitting half a million miles.)

Genuinely, it's a nice car to drive, it's quiet and refined in the cabin, and it soaks up bumps better than the ST.

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Author:  myp [ Sun May 05, 2019 11:47 ]
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Now that’s a nice car. You should buy that instead.

Author:  Zardoz [ Sun May 05, 2019 12:58 ]
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Mad gains.

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#Hellaflush

Author:  Hearthly [ Sun May 05, 2019 14:23 ]
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Well needless to say this is not repairable, the lady from the tyre place sent me this pic to show me the damage (I'm still at work). She's put the spare on for now, (I would not know how to do this), as unfortunately the tyre is not a size she keeps in stock. Good service for a Bank Holiday Sunday, especially as she came up from Port St Mary which is literally as far away from Ramsey as you could get on the IOM.

Also, I just got back from one of our data centres in the Merc, you know what 80s cars have? LOADS OF GLASS. It's like, you can see everything, for miles around.

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Author:  Zardoz [ Sun May 05, 2019 14:39 ]
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You don’t know how to change a wheel?

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Sun May 05, 2019 14:45 ]
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Zardoz wrote:
You don’t know how to change a wheel?

He knows how to change four wheels at once.

Author:  Hearthly [ Sun May 05, 2019 15:01 ]
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Zardoz wrote:
You don’t know how to change a wheel?


Why would I need to know how to change a wheel? I didn't learn to drive until I came to the IOM, so if I got a flat I'd just ring for a taxi, or a lift, or get a bus, or walk.

Anyway, it's practical physical labour, I don't do practical physical labour. I like to employ artisans for that sort of thing.

When we rented a bungalow that had maintaining the gardens as part of the rental agreement, I employed a gardener to do it. He was much better than I would have been at it, and it gave me more time to play videogames.

I'll change light bulbs and stuff, and I even changed the toilet seat when Trousers broke it, but that's about as far as I'll go. When the shower needed re-grouting I paid someone to do it, for example.

Author:  DavPaz [ Sun May 05, 2019 15:04 ]
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But you know *how* to change a wheel, right?

Author:  Hearthly [ Sun May 05, 2019 15:12 ]
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Well in principle I would.

1) Jack the car up using the supplied jack at the proper jacking point.
2) Get the wheel nuts off using the supplied tool and locking wheel nut doohickey.
3) Do that thing where you have to kick the fuck out of the wheel to get it to loosen so you can pull it off.
4) Put the spare wheel on and put the wheel nuts back on (do they use the same nuts or have their own?).
5) Make sure everything is tightened up.
6) Jack the car back down.
7) You are success!

I wouldn't actually do that though, when the nice lady from Southern Tyres is just a Facebook message away.

Author:  TheVision [ Sun May 05, 2019 15:14 ]
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Wrong! You loosen the nuts before jacking it. You want the car up on the jack for as little time as possible.

Author:  DavPaz [ Sun May 05, 2019 15:17 ]
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When I discovered that Mrs Paz's new car has a subwoofer where the spare wheel should be, I made sure she had the RAC number in her phone. Don't reckon would even try to change a wheel on her own though.

Author:  DavPaz [ Sun May 05, 2019 15:17 ]
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TheVision wrote:
Wrong! You loosen the nuts before jacking it. You want the car up on the jack for as little time as possible.

Wait, when is the wank again?

Author:  Hearthly [ Sun May 05, 2019 15:22 ]
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TheVision wrote:
Wrong! You loosen the nuts before jacking it. You want the car up on the jack for as little time as possible.


That's exactly why I leave this sort of thing to professionals.

Author:  Kern [ Sun May 05, 2019 15:27 ]
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I learnt how to do it in the Scouts. Years later, I had a blow-out in the countryside but was able to remember what I learnt and set about trying to get it off. After struggling for about an hour I called my dad and he patiently explained to me that alloy wheels don't have hubcaps.

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Sun May 05, 2019 15:34 ]
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Hearthly wrote:
Zardoz wrote:
You don’t know how to change a wheel?

Why would I need to know how to change a wheel?
So when you get a flat you can get on with your day instead of sitting at the roadside waiting two hours for the breakdown van to attend.

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When we rented a bungalow that had maintaining the gardens as part of the rental agreement, I employed a gardener to do it. He was much better than I would have been at it, and it gave me more time to play videogames... When the shower needed re-grouting I paid someone to do it, for example.
Gardening is either skilled work, back-breaking labour, or both (depending on the garden.) Grouting is difficult to do a tidy job. Paying professionals to do these things is not the same as changing a wheel, because changing a wheel is completely and utterly trivial.

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Sun May 05, 2019 15:37 ]
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TheVision wrote:
Wrong! You loosen the nuts before jacking it. You want the car up on the jack for as little time as possible.

I one exciting case, some dickhead in the tyre place had over-torqued the wheel nuts so far that even with the car down, handbrake on, and jumping up and down on the power bar, I couldn’t get the nuts loosened off. I discovered this when I burst the socket on the power bar...! In the end I had to get a cross brace, offer it up to the nuts, put my trolley jack under the cross brace arm, and do the jack up until the nuts came loose with a heck of a shriek of tortured metal.

Author:  Hearthly [ Sun May 05, 2019 15:42 ]
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
So when you get a flat you can get on with your day instead of sitting at the roadside waiting two hours for the breakdown van to attend


It's a trivial task that I have no interest in being able to do in a capable fashion, or indeed, at all.

Anyway, you wouldn't be waiting two hours for anything over here, you've seen the size of the IOM? We have 24 hour taxi firms, worst case scenario I'd just play Hearthstone on my phone for half an hour whilst waiting for a taxi.

Author:  BikNorton [ Sun May 05, 2019 16:06 ]
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The spare had to go on the back on Helen's ST due to clearance. You might want to double check that Hearthly. Or not drive it.

Author:  Mimi [ Sun May 05, 2019 16:22 ]
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
changing a wheel is completely and utterly trivial.


Doctor Glyndwr’s idea of trivial wrote:
I one exciting case, some dickhead in the tyre place had over-torqued the wheel nuts so far that even with the car down, handbrake on, and jumping up and down on the power bar, I couldn’t get the nuts loosened off. I discovered this when I burst the socket on the power bar...! In the end I had to get a cross brace, offer it up to the nuts, put my trolley jack under the cross brace arm, and do the jack up until the nuts came loose with a heck of a shriek of tortured metal.


Your example does not sound trivial, Doc :DD Awesome perseverance, mind.

Author:  Hearthly [ Sun May 05, 2019 16:47 ]
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BikNorton wrote:
The spare had to go on the back on Helen's ST due to clearance. You might want to double check that Hearthly. Or not drive it.


Oh right does it sit lower on the spare then? There is a little dip on the entrance to our back lane, the Type-R caught its flappy bits on it if I didn't get the angle right.

Thanks for the heads up, I'll be careful of that!

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Sun May 05, 2019 17:06 ]
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Mimi wrote:
Your example does not sound trivial, Doc :DD Awesome perseverance, mind.

Well, true, but that’s also quite unusual. It’s only happened to me once.

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