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Author:  myp [ Wed Mar 06, 2019 16:29 ]
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My Volkswagen Aktiengesellschaft Skodaoctavia is going to the specialist tomorrow. Pray for me.
Author:  Zardoz [ Wed Mar 06, 2019 16:39 ]
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Goodluck.
Author:  markg [ Wed Mar 06, 2019 17:01 ]
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Grim... wrote:
Why wouldn't you want it to be charging all the time? Does it damage the battery?

Yeah just like a phone it's best to try and keep the battery not full all the time as it'll shorten the life of it. The other reason is that some people have economy 7 meters and things like that, although it already has a timer schedule that you can use for that.
Author:  myp [ Wed Mar 06, 2019 17:17 ]
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I didn’t think Li Ion batteries had that problem, more the older NiCad ones. You can leave a modern phone on charge all the time now with no battery degradation, I thought.
Author:  markg [ Wed Mar 06, 2019 17:30 ]
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They're a lot better, certainly, but to get the most life from a li-ion battery you want to be not leaving it sat at 100% for long periods or running it right down. The car has an 80% charge setting just for that reason. Rapid charging doesn't help either. In practice the batteries are lasting quite well, though. My car has 42K miles over three and a bit years and it still has 97% of its original capacity and as far as I can tell has always been charged to 100%, although it's only ever had 51 rapid charges.
Author:  GazChap [ Wed Mar 06, 2019 18:45 ]
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Grim... wrote:
Why wouldn't you want it to be charging all the time? Does it damage the battery?

It can do, yep - general consensus was (is?) that charging up to 80% was better for the battery, and not leaving it on charge was also good for it.

I used to set mine to charge on a timer, with it set to stop charging at 7.30am, so the car would work out when to start charging.

This was important because the house we had at the time had an annoying whirl whereby if there was too much electricity being drawn through the breaker box everything would go mental (but then this house had a dishwasher that would trip the breaker if there was too much water pressure on the inlet, so whatever)

Occasionally I’d need to start charging out of that schedule so using the app was useful for that, but tbh the app is basically redundant for most of its functions.

The only other thing I found vaguely useful was telling the car to start warming up remotely while walking back to the car park after watching a film, but the data connection to the car and back was so painfully slow that it’d take ages to actually start heating.
Author:  Grim... [ Wed Mar 06, 2019 21:45 ]
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Discoverys (Model 3 and above) can preheat too - they have a tiny little diesel heater.
Author:  Dr Zoidberg [ Wed Mar 06, 2019 21:59 ]
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Grim... wrote:
Discoverys (Model 3 and above) can preheat too - they have a tiny little diesel heater.


You can get a cabin heater on various Skodas as an option, but not in the UK.
Author:  Grim... [ Wed Mar 06, 2019 22:03 ]
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Huh, that's odd. I wonder why.
Author:  Dr Zoidberg [ Wed Mar 06, 2019 22:11 ]
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Grim... wrote:
Huh, that's odd. I wonder why.


They probably assume they won’t sell many as we aren’t cold enough.
It’s there on the Czech configurator though, along with heated steering wheels and about fifty extra shades of paint we can’t order.
Author:  GazChap [ Wed Mar 06, 2019 22:33 ]
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It's an option in Scandinavian countries on some BMWs too but, as with the Skodas, not an option here.
Author:  Trooper [ Wed Mar 06, 2019 22:54 ]
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Does it start the engine to heat the cabin? If so, that's illegal in the UK.
Author:  Grim... [ Wed Mar 06, 2019 23:00 ]
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Not if it's on your driveway.

Also, IIRC, not if it's defrosting your windscreen.
Author:  Dr Zoidberg [ Wed Mar 06, 2019 23:03 ]
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Trooper wrote:
Does it start the engine to heat the cabin? If so, that's illegal in the UK.


Nope, it’s a separate heater.
https://www.webasto-comfort.com/en-uk/h ... ng-heater/
Author:  BikNorton [ Wed Mar 06, 2019 23:22 ]
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You can get the heater on Volvo's this country too.

I got the steering wheel, it's ace.
Author:  Trooper [ Wed Mar 06, 2019 23:30 ]
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Grim... wrote:
Not if it's on your driveway.

Also, IIRC, not if it's defrosting your windscreen.


Even in those cases, the exemptions for engine running are with you in the car. It's illegal in all cases if you leave the car.

It's a moot point if it is a separate generator engine though.
Author:  Grim... [ Wed Mar 06, 2019 23:38 ]
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Trooper wrote:
Grim... wrote:
Not if it's on your driveway.

Also, IIRC, not if it's defrosting your windscreen.

Even in those cases, the exemptions for engine running are with you in the car. It's illegal in all cases if you leave the car.

The highway code states "public highway". Otherwise they'd have to arrest every mechanic ever.

The RAC has my back: https://www.rac.co.uk/drive/advice/wint ... -your-car/
Author:  Trooper [ Wed Mar 06, 2019 23:57 ]
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Grim... wrote:
Trooper wrote:
Grim... wrote:
Not if it's on your driveway.

Also, IIRC, not if it's defrosting your windscreen.

Even in those cases, the exemptions for engine running are with you in the car. It's illegal in all cases if you leave the car.

The highway code states "public highway". Otherwise they'd have to arrest every mechanic ever.

The RAC has my back: https://www.rac.co.uk/drive/advice/wint ... -your-car/


Highway code says:
"You MUST NOT leave a parked vehicle unattended with the engine running or leave a vehicle engine running unnecessarily while that vehicle is stationary on a public road"

The lack of commas leads me to think the public road clause is only related to the latter stationary condition, and not the former unattended condition, but it is ambiguous.
Author:  myp [ Thu Mar 07, 2019 0:28 ]
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Trooper wrote:
Grim... wrote:
Trooper wrote:
Grim... wrote:
Not if it's on your driveway.

Also, IIRC, not if it's defrosting your windscreen.

Even in those cases, the exemptions for engine running are with you in the car. It's illegal in all cases if you leave the car.

The highway code states "public highway". Otherwise they'd have to arrest every mechanic ever.

The RAC has my back: https://www.rac.co.uk/drive/advice/wint ... -your-car/


Highway code says:
"You MUST NOT leave a parked vehicle unattended with the engine running or leave a vehicle engine running unnecessarily while that vehicle is stationary on a public road"

The lack of commas leads me to think the public road clause is only related to the latter stationary condition, and not the former unattended condition, but it is ambiguous.

It’s the exact opposite I believe. If it only applied to the latter then I’d expect a comma.
Author:  Trooper [ Thu Mar 07, 2019 0:37 ]
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A comma after running and stationary would mean it applied to both clauses, I thought?
Author:  BikNorton [ Thu Mar 07, 2019 3:02 ]
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My superb doesn't shut itself off if it's in park and I get out of it. You would've thought vw would be all about complying with the rules.
Author:  markg [ Thu Mar 07, 2019 7:31 ]
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Trooper wrote:
Grim... wrote:
Trooper wrote:
Grim... wrote:
Not if it's on your driveway.

Also, IIRC, not if it's defrosting your windscreen.

Even in those cases, the exemptions for engine running are with you in the car. It's illegal in all cases if you leave the car.

The highway code states "public highway". Otherwise they'd have to arrest every mechanic ever.

The RAC has my back: https://www.rac.co.uk/drive/advice/wint ... -your-car/


Highway code says:
"You MUST NOT leave a parked vehicle unattended with the engine running or leave a vehicle engine running unnecessarily while that vehicle is stationary on a public road"

The lack of commas leads me to think the public road clause is only related to the latter stationary condition, and not the former unattended condition, but it is ambiguous.

You can pretty much do what you want with a car on your own land can't you? It would be strange to single out leaving the engine running.
Author:  Trooper [ Thu Mar 07, 2019 8:46 ]
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markg wrote:
Trooper wrote:
Grim... wrote:
Trooper wrote:
Grim... wrote:
Not if it's on your driveway.

Also, IIRC, not if it's defrosting your windscreen.

Even in those cases, the exemptions for engine running are with you in the car. It's illegal in all cases if you leave the car.

The highway code states "public highway". Otherwise they'd have to arrest every mechanic ever.

The RAC has my back: https://www.rac.co.uk/drive/advice/wint ... -your-car/


Highway code says:
"You MUST NOT leave a parked vehicle unattended with the engine running or leave a vehicle engine running unnecessarily while that vehicle is stationary on a public road"

The lack of commas leads me to think the public road clause is only related to the latter stationary condition, and not the former unattended condition, but it is ambiguous.

You can pretty much do what you want with a car on your own land can't you? It would be strange to single out leaving the engine running.


Engine running is singled out for "environmental reasons".
Author:  Dr Zoidberg [ Thu Mar 07, 2019 8:59 ]
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The law on Quitting a vehicle doesn’t apply on private land.

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1986 ... n/107/made
Author:  Trooper [ Thu Mar 07, 2019 9:24 ]
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Dr Zoidberg wrote:
The law on Quitting a vehicle doesn’t apply on private land.

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1986 ... n/107/made


Section 107 doesn't apply, which is quitting.
Section 98 does, which is idling.
Author:  myp [ Thu Mar 07, 2019 11:21 ]
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New inlet manifold needed it seems, but they’re going to try to do some stuff to the ECU first.
Author:  markg [ Thu Mar 07, 2019 18:04 ]
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Arse. People who fitted the charging unit have just emailed to say that our power supply will need to be unlooped from the neighbouring property by the electricity people. This is making me nervous that they'll smash fuck our of our driveway and the neighbours and leave a massive mess.
Author:  Zardoz [ Fri Mar 08, 2019 16:53 ]
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Have you spoken to anyone about this yet? Fingers crossed the power lines are to the edge of your drive mate.
Author:  Zardoz [ Fri Mar 08, 2019 16:54 ]
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Lonewolves wrote:
New inlet manifold needed it seems, but they’re going to try to do some stuff to the ECU first.

Did you get sorted, Myp?
Author:  Zardoz [ Fri Mar 08, 2019 16:57 ]
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New dogbone lower engine mount get! Think I'll pop some power flex bushes on before I fit it.

Went for two part worn tyres for Mrs Z Rav4 at lunch and ended up getting one part worn and one BRAND NEW Hankook Optimo K406s for £90 including balance. Which was nice. Love Star Tyres in Preston, always have plenty of branded stock to choose from.
Author:  Zardoz [ Fri Mar 08, 2019 17:03 ]
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Sorry, forgot to add picture!

Holy tread depth Batman!
Author:  myp [ Fri Mar 08, 2019 17:40 ]
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Zardoz wrote:
Lonewolves wrote:
New inlet manifold needed it seems, but they’re going to try to do some stuff to the ECU first.

Did you get sorted, Myp?

No, going back on Monday as it was just in for a diagnostic.
Author:  markg [ Fri Mar 08, 2019 18:02 ]
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Zardoz wrote:
Have you spoken to anyone about this yet? Fingers crossed the power lines are to the edge of your drive mate.

I got a power point that does more than this car is actually capable of, just as future proofing really. They're going to see if they can get away with just lowering the maximum output which will still be more than this car can take anyway.
Author:  Zardoz [ Fri Mar 08, 2019 18:10 ]
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Ah right, I thought for some reason the point wouldn't work at all without disconnecting the supply from your neighbours.
Author:  markg [ Fri Mar 08, 2019 18:20 ]
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No, it's working fine, they've just said if possible use it at night, but they couldn't have known that my car only has a 3.3kW charger anyway.
Author:  DavPaz [ Sat Mar 09, 2019 21:27 ]
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I had to change the radio in the C-Max. As nice as the Sony was, there was no Bluetooth. The only way to add bluetooth was to buy a Nokia module that isn't made anymore and hope that when it was fitted, the head unit would magically recognise it.

So, no. I decided to swap out the radio from my old car. I ordered a kit from fleabay with all the adapters and fascias that I needed, but the fascia wasn't right. Must've been designed for a slightly different model. So I pretty much wrecked it trying to squeeze it in. At least all the cables worked :)

Never mind. A second (more cautious) attempt at buying the right fascia adapter and this...

Image

has become this...

Image

I know, worth posting about on a saturday night, right?

FAKE EDIT: I know the 'new' radio needs a wipe. Deal with it.
Author:  Zardoz [ Sat Mar 09, 2019 22:09 ]
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Tidy work, DP.

Giphy "thumbs up":
https://media3.giphy.com/media/111ebonMs90YLu/giphy-loop.mp4
Author:  DavPaz [ Sat Mar 09, 2019 22:17 ]
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Cheers, Z!
Author:  Grim... [ Sat Mar 09, 2019 22:44 ]
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Show us the subs, then.
Author:  DavPaz [ Sat Mar 09, 2019 22:49 ]
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Grim... wrote:
Show us the subs, then.

Weird request, but okay...

Image
Author:  Trooper [ Sun Mar 10, 2019 1:30 ]
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Image
Author:  Mimi [ Sun Mar 10, 2019 9:11 ]
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Silly Zardoz.
Author:  Dr Zoidberg [ Sun Mar 10, 2019 9:57 ]
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You’re all wrong.
Author:  Hearthly [ Sun Mar 10, 2019 10:18 ]
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I had the standard Ford head unit replaced in my C-Max with something similar, but I got the Ford garage to actually do the installation for me.

Unlike you I didn't have the Sony head unit to start with, just the basic Ford one, which was spectacularly awful. Once the head unit had been replaced, it turned out the factory fit speakers weren't as bad as I'd thought they were, it was the terribleness of the head unit that made them sound worse.

Also, what a great car the C-Max was, in fact, just thinking about it now, two of my favourite ever cars have been the C-Max, and now the ST. There's a lot to like about Fords I think.

In fact, I've got a picture of it, because of course I have. (Picture is from April 2010, so a much younger Jnr!)

EDIT - Mine was GHIA spec (this was before Titanium existed IIRC), so you can see digital climate controls and also the heated seat control. It had an electronic parking brake as well.

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Author:  DavPaz [ Sun Mar 10, 2019 10:57 ]
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That looks exactly like the dodgy fascia kit that I had first. Massive open slot (phnarr!) and radio underneath. It just didn't fit properly in mine.

Titanium definitely existed in 2010, bud. My car's a 57 plate :D
Author:  Hearthly [ Sun Mar 10, 2019 16:42 ]
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DavPaz wrote:
That looks exactly like the dodgy fascia kit that I had first. Massive open slot (phnarr!) and radio underneath. It just didn't fit properly in mine.

Titanium definitely existed in 2010, bud. My car's a 57 plate :D


Yes it wasn't the best looking thing, although the little storage bit above the head unit was modestly handy.

I guess stuff like that is basically redundant now, since pretty much every newish car has USB and Bluetooth audio.

EDIT - I note you have the heated front windscreen. They're pretty nifty, aren't they.
Author:  DavPaz [ Sun Mar 10, 2019 17:04 ]
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Hearthly wrote:
DavPaz wrote:
That looks exactly like the dodgy fascia kit that I had first. Massive open slot (phnarr!) and radio underneath. It just didn't fit properly in mine.

Titanium definitely existed in 2010, bud. My car's a 57 plate :D


Yes it wasn't the best looking thing, although the little storage bit above the head unit was modestly handy.

I guess stuff like that is basically redundant now, since pretty much every newish car has USB and Bluetooth audio.

EDIT - I note you have the heated front windscreen. They're pretty nifty, aren't they.

Haven't had cause to use it yet, but I'm looking forward to it. Scraping half an inch of ice off a car is never much fun
Author:  Sir Taxalot [ Sun Mar 10, 2019 22:40 ]
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DavPaz wrote:
Haven't had cause to use it yet, but I'm looking forward to it. Scraping half an inch of ice off a car is never much fun


They are really, really good. Clears snow/ice/condensation so quickly.
Author:  BikNorton [ Sun Mar 10, 2019 23:29 ]
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The only thing better than heated windscreen is heated windscreen and heated steering wheel.

Headed seat and mirrors a given by that point obvs.

Oh no, it's frosty! Get in car, start car, turn all the things on, listen to absolute classic rock for one minute, drive to work whilst trying to remember its coooold outside (campers).
Author:  Grim... [ Sun Mar 10, 2019 23:33 ]
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Heated seats can fuck off.
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