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Author:  Trooper [ Fri Feb 15, 2019 23:22 ]
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Zardoz wrote:
My Caliper winder has both cw AND ccw turny bits!


Never has there been a sexier sentence written.

Author:  MaliA [ Fri Feb 15, 2019 23:37 ]
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Trooper wrote:
Zardoz wrote:
My Caliper winder has both cw AND ccw turny bits!


Never has there been a sexier sentence written.


Disagree:

https://www.beexcellenttoeachother.com/ ... 72#p903972

Author:  markg [ Tue Feb 19, 2019 15:40 ]
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I love my Type R when I get the chance to but 95% of my driving is between work and home in stop start traffic and to be honest in that scenario it does the opposite of excel, absolutely fucking tanks fuel for the privilege (I get about 23mpg) and also my wife refuses to drive it. My plan when I bought it was always to change it for an EV after a few years but I just went and test drove a four year old Leaf and I actually really liked it. The looks might grow on me I guess but inside it's a nice enough place to be and it has exec saloon levels of quietness, it's just such a relaxing ride. Plus not having to worry abut the absolute myriad of stupid fucking things that there are to go wrong with ICE cars is something that really appeals to me. Family discussions are ongoing.

Author:  myp [ Tue Feb 19, 2019 15:45 ]
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I thought you had a Mk5 Golf GTI?

*edit* turns out I was completely wrong. :D

Author:  markg [ Tue Feb 19, 2019 15:51 ]
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I was looking at them (or was it MK6?) but there seemed to be too many reliability issues.

Author:  GazChap [ Tue Feb 19, 2019 16:16 ]
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If the range issue isn't a problem for you, I'd have absolutely zero qualms recommending a LEAF. Incredible cars.

Author:  markg [ Tue Feb 19, 2019 16:18 ]
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Yeah, it's absolutely not. We both work within ten miles of home and most of our family and friends are here too. And we'll be keeping an ICE car for any longer trips.

Author:  markg [ Tue Feb 19, 2019 16:27 ]
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Also means that there will be times when I'll get to drive the Jazz!

Author:  markg [ Tue Feb 19, 2019 17:04 ]
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Just been doing the man maths and this car swap would be self-financing. Currently spending £120pm in fuel and tax whereas the Leaf should be in the region of £20-25 in electricity and the difference buys me a car that's five years newer.

The other scenario is I could sell the Type R and buy something petrol powered for the same money that uses half as much fuel and pays almost no tax but I do not want to do that.

Author:  myp [ Tue Feb 19, 2019 17:33 ]
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Yeah, that last option is the worst of all worlds. I wanted an EV but they are either way too expensive or don’t have the range (darling). I need to get to Southampton on two charges as it would be our only car and for what I could afford (an oldish Leaf) it wouldn’t cut the mustard. Great for your use case though!

So I went for an Octavia vRS instead.

Author:  markg [ Tue Feb 19, 2019 17:44 ]
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Common sense always prevails!

Author:  markg [ Tue Feb 19, 2019 18:28 ]
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Picking it up a week on Friday!

Author:  Zardoz [ Tue Feb 19, 2019 18:30 ]
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WTFF

Author:  markg [ Tue Feb 19, 2019 18:39 ]
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:DD

Author:  markg [ Tue Feb 19, 2019 18:42 ]
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You should get one too. You'd be quids in with your commute!

Author:  Hearthly [ Tue Feb 19, 2019 18:49 ]
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markg wrote:
I love my Type R when I get the chance to but 95% of my driving is between work and home in stop start traffic and to be honest in that scenario it does the opposite of excel, absolutely fucking tanks fuel for the privilege (I get about 23mpg) and also my wife refuses to drive it. My plan when I bought it was always to change it for an EV after a few years but I just went and test drove a four year old Leaf and I actually really liked it. The looks might grow on me I guess but inside it's a nice enough place to be and it has exec saloon levels of quietness, it's just such a relaxing ride. Plus not having to worry abut the absolute myriad of stupid fucking things that there are to go wrong with ICE cars is something that really appeals to me. Family discussions are ongoing.


That really is a worst case scenario for a frantic VTEC powered car like the Type-R, I've owned several high revving VTECs over the years and the one thing I always hated about them was being in stop-start traffic - which we don't get much of at all over here but it was still annoying when it happened.

TBH if your driving is mostly bland commuting, just get the most cost effective car possible would be my advice.

I only like to have a 'nice to drive' car because I do the best part of 30 miles over the derestricted mountain road every day. When we lived in Douglas (which is where I work), I had a 1.5 Peugeot 106 diesel that did 66mpg, because the car at that point was nothing more than a commodity item like a kettle, since it spent nearly all its time in 20-40mph speed limits, in traffic.

I've always said that if they ever impose an all-island speed limit here (which would probably land at 60mph or suchlike), I'd just get a Fiesta 1.0 Ecoboost or something, because who fucking cares at that point?

Author:  markg [ Tue Feb 19, 2019 18:52 ]
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Yeah, I do get to give it a blast fairly regularly but the other thing with those that I hadn't appreciated is that they won't even go into fast VTEC mode until they reach a certain temperature, which with so many short journeys is often not before I've got where I'm going.

Author:  Trooper [ Tue Feb 19, 2019 19:06 ]
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I'd go electric, as I mostly potter around to the shops, with the occasional 80 mile round trip, so perfect use case.
But I don't have anywhere to charge it at home.

Author:  Zardoz [ Tue Feb 19, 2019 19:06 ]
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I bet Cavey is turning in his grave.

Author:  Zardoz [ Tue Feb 19, 2019 19:08 ]
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markg wrote:
You should get one too. You'd be quids in with your commute!

I’d be stranded on the motorway most days by the EV I’d be able to afford.

Author:  myp [ Tue Feb 19, 2019 20:09 ]
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Trooper wrote:
I'd go electric, as I mostly potter around to the shops, with the occasional 80 mile round trip, so perfect use case.
But I don't have anywhere to charge it at home.

Err

Author:  Zardoz [ Tue Feb 19, 2019 20:25 ]
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Get a diesel generator.

Author:  Trooper [ Tue Feb 19, 2019 20:41 ]
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Lonewolves wrote:
Trooper wrote:
I'd go electric, as I mostly potter around to the shops, with the occasional 80 mile round trip, so perfect use case.
But I don't have anywhere to charge it at home.

Err


What?

Author:  myp [ Tue Feb 19, 2019 20:48 ]
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Trooper wrote:
Lonewolves wrote:
Trooper wrote:
I'd go electric, as I mostly potter around to the shops, with the occasional 80 mile round trip, so perfect use case.
But I don't have anywhere to charge it at home.

Err


What?

Electric Vehicle EV Type 2 Charging station 32 Amp / 7.2 kw Homecharging ~ Mercedes ~ BMW ~ Volvo ~ UK manufactured https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01MZBKJKN/ ... BCbXNCVGTG

Author:  Trooper [ Tue Feb 19, 2019 21:04 ]
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Lonewolves wrote:
Trooper wrote:
Lonewolves wrote:
Trooper wrote:
I'd go electric, as I mostly potter around to the shops, with the occasional 80 mile round trip, so perfect use case.
But I don't have anywhere to charge it at home.

Err


What?

Electric Vehicle EV Type 2 Charging station 32 Amp / 7.2 kw Homecharging ~ Mercedes ~ BMW ~ Volvo ~ UK manufactured https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01MZBKJKN/ ... BCbXNCVGTG


2nd floor flat, parking space 30 yards away in public car park.

Author:  myp [ Tue Feb 19, 2019 21:05 ]
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Trooper wrote:
Lonewolves wrote:
Trooper wrote:
Lonewolves wrote:
Trooper wrote:
I'd go electric, as I mostly potter around to the shops, with the occasional 80 mile round trip, so perfect use case.
But I don't have anywhere to charge it at home.

Err


What?

Electric Vehicle EV Type 2 Charging station 32 Amp / 7.2 kw Homecharging ~ Mercedes ~ BMW ~ Volvo ~ UK manufactured https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01MZBKJKN/ ... BCbXNCVGTG


2nd floor flat, parking space 30 yards away in public car park.

You’re the problems guy and not the solutions guy, it seems.

Author:  Trooper [ Tue Feb 19, 2019 21:16 ]
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Giphy "i'm the guy":
https://media1.giphy.com/media/TDJ3IWIVfTDqcfZYGS/giphy-loop.mp4

Author:  Trooper [ Tue Feb 19, 2019 21:16 ]
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Nailed it

Author:  BikNorton [ Tue Feb 19, 2019 22:13 ]
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The only time I got less than 30mpg out of my EP3 was when I spent a day twatting it round oulton park. Basically nailed on otherwise. It did like it some oil though.

My superb is fucking appalling at economy. 15 miles each way every day and I'm lucky if I ever see a number starting with a 3, even using high-RON fuel and trundling about on cruise. It wasn't great on a clean run at 70 up to Blackpool today either.

Then again it doesn't go below 25 when I blast through country lanes in manual-sport either.

Author:  myp [ Tue Feb 19, 2019 22:27 ]
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The EP3 was pretty frugal as far as those cars go. I think Mark has an FN2 though.

Author:  BikNorton [ Tue Feb 19, 2019 23:29 ]
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I'm forgetting my body codes now but wasn't fn2 basically the same engine/drivetrain in the melty shell?

I don't mean to sound like I'm taking the piss, just that if it's a k20 engine and being very thirsty maybe get it looked at.

Author:  markg [ Tue Feb 19, 2019 23:36 ]
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It's not far off what others report looking on forums. If I drive it like a granny I can get 30mpg.

Author:  myp [ Tue Feb 19, 2019 23:38 ]
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I used to get 30mpg easily in my EP3 too. 40 on a long run.

Author:  Zardoz [ Wed Feb 20, 2019 0:04 ]
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Your calliper wouldn’t have been helping mpg, Mark.

Author:  markg [ Wed Feb 20, 2019 0:17 ]
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Yeah, true but you'd still need to be driving like a pensioner to get over 30.

Author:  DBSnappa [ Wed Feb 20, 2019 8:24 ]
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BikNorton wrote:
The only time I got less than 30mpg out of my EP3 was when I spent a day twatting it round oulton park. Basically nailed on otherwise. It did like it some oil though.

My superb is fucking appalling at economy. 15 miles each way every day and I'm lucky if I ever see a number starting with a 3, even using high-RON fuel and trundling about on cruise. It wasn't great on a clean run at 70 up to Blackpool today either.

Then again it doesn't go below 25 when I blast through country lanes in manual-sport either.

Do you do manual calcs or rely on the onboard trip? My M140 never shows less than 25 or more than 27 regardless of how I drive. Frankly I think it’s bullshit and keep meaning to do manual calcs but I’m not sure I care enough seeing as I don’t “commute” to work

Author:  Mr Dave [ Wed Feb 20, 2019 8:40 ]
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Trooper wrote:
I'd go electric, as I mostly potter around to the shops, with the occasional 80 mile round trip, so perfect use case.
But I don't have anywhere to charge it at home.

:this: pretty much.

Author:  BikNorton [ Wed Feb 20, 2019 9:36 ]
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The civic didn't have a computer so it was manual, but I go by the computer on the superb.

Helen used it to commute to Brum on Monday - 30 miles each way, more constant higher speed - so that should push the tank average up slightly; rough manual calculation says 28mpg on 13 gallons.

Author:  DBSnappa [ Wed Feb 20, 2019 10:13 ]
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BikNorton wrote:
The civic didn't have a computer so it was manual, but I go by the computer on the superb.

Helen used it to commute to Brum on Monday - 30 miles each way, more constant higher speed - so that should push the tank average up slightly; rough manual calculation says 28mpg on 13 gallons.

The M140 does better around town than the mk1 Focus ST which is my work wagon. I’m fortunate that I don’t do much mileage so I don’t really care. Across both cars we do less than 10k pa and that’s a busy year with lots of trips, it’s probably closer to 8k pa in reality.

Author:  myp [ Wed Feb 20, 2019 13:32 ]
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I’ve done around 600 miles since I’ve had the vRS, which is about five weeks. We’ve left NG5 once.

Author:  Zardoz [ Wed Feb 20, 2019 13:47 ]
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Drive more :shrug:

Author:  myp [ Wed Feb 20, 2019 15:33 ]
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Zardoz wrote:
Drive more :shrug:

It’s hard when we both live 15 mins walk from work.

Author:  Zardoz [ Wed Feb 20, 2019 17:17 ]
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Duh! You don't have to drive directly!

Author:  myp [ Wed Feb 20, 2019 19:59 ]
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I was wrong, it’s about 400 miles.

Author:  DBSnappa [ Mon Feb 25, 2019 9:57 ]
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@Trooper Just found a car for you!
https://www.pistonheads.com/regulars/ph ... week/39692

Author:  Grim... [ Mon Feb 25, 2019 11:20 ]
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HOW MUCH?!

Author:  DBSnappa [ Mon Feb 25, 2019 11:51 ]
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Grim... wrote:
HOW MUCH?!
inorite!

Author:  Trooper [ Mon Feb 25, 2019 12:23 ]
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Bargain! That buys you a lot of gaffa tape and velcro, so it should hold together.

Author:  krazywookie [ Mon Feb 25, 2019 13:34 ]
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Took my friend to the airport in the MG this morning, 3am start for a 6am flight. About 60 miles to Edinburgh altogether, got 40 miles in and lost power on the motorway. He's a learner but managed to get it stopped in an emergency layby safely enough. We had a quick check of wires and pipes and smacked the fuel pump a bit which usually fixes everything so I took over and we cracked on. 30sec later all power lost again, still felt like fuel starvation so managed to dive across the gravel shoulder and get it stopped on a concrete pad under a bridge, these are weird places to be in the dark. Fucked about for a while and figured out the problem is a bad earth on the pump so it's making a bit of noise but there's next to zero pressure at the carbs and little flow so now we're ripping speaker cables out the doors and stripping them with our teeth to make temp. Earth cables. Fine, that sorted it, healthy fuel pressure and full float bowls. Oh, massive fuel leak from the plastic filter in the engine bay, guess the fuel pressures been low for a while. Bypass the filter, tighten all the clips up again and we're off, car's feeling good but the indicators have stopped working. Got him to the airport at 5:45 and he made it in with 2 minutes to spare after abandoning his hold luggage in the car, fucking precision planning there. Enjoyable drive home after fixing the flashers with only the comforting diff whine, suspension rattles and tyre rub to listen to.
TL:DR old cars are shit

Author:  krazywookie [ Mon Feb 25, 2019 13:35 ]
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This tale could probably apply to that tvr as well

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