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 Post subject: Re: Gas Guzzling Money Pits
PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 20:50 
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a) Why does it need to be monitored by humans as a live service? It's just car ownership notification that used to be done via the post.
2) Why can't I submit my notification to a queue and they process it when they get in tomorrow? What's the difference between that and opening the post in the morning?
iii) Why does it need to be monitored by humans at all? Transaction cost goes through the roof when you do that. The whole point of the new GOV.UK (has to be typed as all caps, because that's the brand and I used to get told off for not giving a shit about that) was to reduce transaction cost.


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V5 doesn't even indicate ownership, as the forms happy point out repeatedly. Just the person who wants to get the tickets and jail time.


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V5 doesn't even indicate ownership, as the forms happy point out repeatedly. Just the person who wants to get the tickets and jail time.


Yeah, the difference between owner and registered keeper has always seemed a little arbitrary and weird.

Like you say, the V5 doesn't denote ownership, yet if you want to sell or buy a car, it's the V5 that gets transferred over. The V5 says:
"Registered keeper: I declare that I sold this vehicle etc..."
Surely to be able to make that declaration, you need the owner to sign, not the registered keeper? As you can't sell something that doesn't belong to you.
The V5 also says "Selling or transferring your vehicle etc... - please fill in this section" but it's for the registered keeper to fill in, not the owner, so it may well not be "my" vehicle.


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Yeah. All very odd. Definitely a workaround for SOMETHING, but I bet no one has any clue what anymore.

Maybe another "government can't maintain id on citizens" thing?


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You can tell the dvla online that you have sold a car these day, no need to post in the V5. That makes life a lot easier, let me just go online and do that.

Online notification can only be done between 7am and 7pm.

WTF?


Didn't you work on a load of the recent .gov online services revamp?

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You can tell the dvla online that you have sold a car these day, no need to post in the V5. That makes life a lot easier, let me just go online and do that.

Online notification can only be done between 7am and 7pm.

WTF?


Didn't you work on a load of the recent .gov online services revamp?


Hence my incredulity, if that was one of my services, shit like that wouldn't happen.


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Only criminals sell cars outside those hours.

Sorry, "change the registered keeper."


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You can tell the dvla online that you have sold a car these day, no need to post in the V5. That makes life a lot easier, let me just go online and do that.

What's the link for this? When I sold Jem's Skoda earlier in the year (but not that long ago) everything was quite clear that you couldn't do it online and that you needed to post the V5 back.

Same with changing the address on the V5.


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You can tell the dvla online that you have sold a car these day, no need to post in the V5. That makes life a lot easier, let me just go online and do that.

What's the link for this? When I sold Jem's Skoda earlier in the year (but not that long ago) everything was quite clear that you couldn't do it online and that you needed to post the V5 back.

Same with changing the address on the V5.


https://www.gov.uk/sold-bought-vehicle

Address change still has to be done via paper, I think.
edit: yeah, that's still a paper process
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Good reasons I expect, or could be crap reasons.


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Hello there is a new car again. The Leon did just a smidge over six months.

This is a Jan 2015 (facelift) Focus ST-2, 33K miles. It's got the 2 litre turbo putting out 250bhp.

This was a straight swap, he gave me £15K for the Leon and put it back out at £16K, so can't really complain. His price on the Focus was pretty sound too, it's an ST-2 but it has some nice upgrades on it, mainly the Nav + Sync2 which is good as it gets the big touchscreen, rear parking sensors, and a couple of other bits and pieces. It's most of the way to ST-3 spec but apparently Ford dealers were doing some big discounts on ST-2 + goodies at the time (early 2015).

It's less mental than the Type-R but a lot more fun than the Leon - manages to be a nice daily driver but really good fun when you wind it up a bit.

I got it just in time for TT fortnight and the one-way mountain road, it managed 144mph on the mountain mile. If you read up on the thing it's very well regarded as a great hot hatch.

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Oh yes there's a guy who goes out on the mountain and takes pics of everything that comes past then puts them on his site, you can get your pic off him without the watermark for a tenner. This is the watermarked version.

I am on the 'wrong' side of the road but the road is one-way, hence the NO ENTRY signs behind me as people who spectate in that area are reminded that they can't go back into Ramsey that way and have to go all the way round the course into Douglas and then go back.

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Nice, love both the Focus and Fiesta ST.

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Nice. Yeah, I like the new fast fords, my brother mad the Fiesta ST for a while.

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Nice, love both the Focus and Fiesta ST.


I was very tempted by some nice Fiesta STs that he'd had over the weeks, but of course they're three doors and would induce THE ARCHED EYEBROW OF MRS HEARTHLY.

I snaffled up this Focus before he'd even got the price sticker up in the window.


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What's on the Xmas car list?

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I have determined that I will keep this car for at least twelve months, and my next car will be the Kia Stinger GT-S when it's at £20K or less.

We already have a number of 50p bets riding on it in the office. I lose my money if I've got rid of the Focus before TT next year (last week of May and first week of June).

I am confident and feel good about this car, it may just be the perfect blend of practical daily usability and sporty credentials that I've always yearned for.

TBH I was slightly upset at how folks were clamouring to take the bet, claiming it was 'the easiest 50p I've ever made'.

I'LL SHOW THEM.


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Brilliantly, after two hours of me ridiculing Land Rover's inability to deliver the ordered car without defects, and them being smug while I did paperwork on the Superb, it turns out that Skoda failed to deliver the car I ordered.

Thankfully 'just' heated washer nozzles, and I hadn't paid for them because some idiot removed them from the order, but that means I also get a free boot liner. I think I'll mention I expect a decent amount of fuel in the tank as well, and maybe some cargo nets.

They'd just better not fuck up the paint as well.


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Helen's st was great, with the exception of being shit on UK roads from a suspension setup point of view.

It was also terrible on fuel, but money doesn't seem to bother you.


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The Octy is going into the garage tomorrow to fix the locks and turbo issue. #pray4me

Other than those issues I've been happy with it so far. Who knew getting 55mpg could be so satisfying?

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The Octy is going into the garage tomorrow to fix the locks and turbo issue. #pray4me

Other than those issues I've been happy with it so far. Who knew getting 55mpg could be so satisfying?


Good luck, hopefully an easy fix. Getting 600 miles per tank from my 110TDi at the moment. Might be a touch more once I get round to serving it.

Just worked out it's 55mpg based on my 50lt tank, don't drive it economically either.

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Just worked out it's 55mpg based on my 50lt tank, don't drive it economically either.
MrsDoc filled our car with petrol last week. We last filled it driving back from Grim...'s on New Year's Day.

We probably shouldn't own a car.


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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
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Just worked out it's 55mpg based on my 50lt tank, don't drive it economically either.
MrsDoc filled our car with petrol last week. We last filled it driving back from Grim...'s on New Year's Day.

We probably shouldn't own a car.

Does petrol go off? :D

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Lonewolves wrote:
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Just worked out it's 55mpg based on my 50lt tank, don't drive it economically either.
MrsDoc filled our car with petrol last week. We last filled it driving back from Grim...'s on New Year's Day.

We probably shouldn't own a car.

Does petrol go off? :D


My er5 started 3rd press of button after 6 years sitting. So, not under normal timescales.

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I guess it's made from dinosaurs so would've gone off before now if it ever would.

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Lonewolves wrote:
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
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Just worked out it's 55mpg based on my 50lt tank, don't drive it economically either.
MrsDoc filled our car with petrol last week. We last filled it driving back from Grim...'s on New Year's Day.

We probably shouldn't own a car.

Does petrol go off? :D

If left in the open it becomes unusable in about a year.


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Just worked out it's 55mpg based on my 50lt tank, don't drive it economically either.
MrsDoc filled our car with petrol last week. We last filled it driving back from Grim...'s on New Year's Day.

We probably shouldn't own a car.

Does petrol go off? :D

If left in the open it becomes unusable in about a year.


In WW2, During the Africa campaign, the British troops had huge problems with fuel evaporating from their storage containers. The German army didn't suffer nearly so badly, so enemy fuel drums were much prized amongst the allied troops. Which is why fuel containers ate known as jerry cans.

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SPOILER ALERT

It's on its way back to me. This is after I refunded the buyer and put in an insurance claim.

Funny how they magically found it when the alternative was paying out. They were going to send it on to the addressee too before I kicked up a fuss!

Fucking Parcelforce bastards.

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Door and turbo fixed. Drives like a completely different car!

Still some minor issues but I'll take those to my local garage.

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Did they say what it was?

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Did they say what it was?

Glad you've got it sorted.

I saw him fix it. Actuator had come loose.

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Door and turbo fixed. Drives like a completely different car!

Still some minor issues but I'll take those to my local garage.


Excellent news. What's the minor stuff?


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Door and turbo fixed. Drives like a completely different car!

Still some minor issues but I'll take those to my local garage.


Excellent news. What's the minor stuff?

Electric wing mirror adjuster just alters nearside mirror on both settings (probably the switch then)
Driver side reading light doesn't stay on when pressed
Driver door doesn't unlock with remote button (all others do)

I think that's it.

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Door and turbo fixed. Drives like a completely different car!

Still some minor issues but I'll take those to my local garage.


Excellent news. What's the minor stuff?

Electric wing mirror adjuster just alters nearside mirror on both settings (probably the switch then)
Driver side reading light doesn't stay on when pressed
Driver door doesn't unlock with remote button (all others do)

I think that's it.

Would happily live with all those apart from the driver door. That would mash my tits. Glad you've ended up with a decent motor, must have been stressful after the last one.


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Yeah it's pretty nice! Not as comfy as the Merc but so much better on fuel and handles better. The less said about the Bora the better!

Might even think about the stage 1 remap as my mate might be able to get it cheap for me.

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Petrol doesn't really go off if it's sat in your tank, but sediment can settle after a while.

Enough of it can bung up the fuel filter, but it's not really a legitimate concern.

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Might even think about the stage 1 remap as my mate might be able to get it cheap for me.

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Might even think about the stage 1 remap as my mate might be able to get it cheap for me.

Beware the insurance premiums.


I don’t really advocate not disclosing things to insurers, but on a car of this age you’ve got no way of knowing that a previous owner might have remapped it.


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You can tell the dvla online that you have sold a car these day, no need to post in the V5. That makes life a lot easier, let me just go online and do that.

What's the link for this? When I sold Jem's Skoda earlier in the year (but not that long ago) everything was quite clear that you couldn't do it online and that you needed to post the V5 back.

Same with changing the address on the V5.


https://www.gov.uk/sold-bought-vehicle

Address change still has to be done via paper, I think.
edit: yeah, that's still a paper process
https://www.gov.uk/change-name-address-v5c


I sold my old car, and gave them the car and the V5. Try to stop my direct debit on the tax and it won’t let me online as I need the V5. Sodding dealer hasn’t changed it so I need to call them. Ugh.

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You can tell the dvla online that you have sold a car these day, no need to post in the V5. That makes life a lot easier, let me just go online and do that.

What's the link for this? When I sold Jem's Skoda earlier in the year (but not that long ago) everything was quite clear that you couldn't do it online and that you needed to post the V5 back.

Same with changing the address on the V5.


https://www.gov.uk/sold-bought-vehicle

Address change still has to be done via paper, I think.
edit: yeah, that's still a paper process
https://www.gov.uk/change-name-address-v5c


I sold my old car, and gave them the car and the V5. Try to stop my direct debit on the tax and it won’t let me online as I need the V5. Sodding dealer hasn’t changed it so I need to call them. Ugh.

Yeah, you're meant to do the V5 yourself.

Although I did the same thing with the Bora!

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Might even think about the stage 1 remap as my mate might be able to get it cheap for me.

Beware the insurance premiums.


I don’t really advocate not disclosing things to insurers, but on a car of this age you’ve got no way of knowing that a previous owner might have remapped it.

I'm not sure that still gives me a leg to stand on, but the risk is pretty minimal unless I kill someone I guess. Even then would they think to check an engine mapping? Who knows.

From what I've read your insurance premium goes up a bit but it's not astronomical anyway.

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You can tell the dvla online that you have sold a car these day, no need to post in the V5. That makes life a lot easier, let me just go online and do that.

What's the link for this? When I sold Jem's Skoda earlier in the year (but not that long ago) everything was quite clear that you couldn't do it online and that you needed to post the V5 back.

Same with changing the address on the V5.


https://www.gov.uk/sold-bought-vehicle

Address change still has to be done via paper, I think.
edit: yeah, that's still a paper process
https://www.gov.uk/change-name-address-v5c


I sold my old car, and gave them the car and the V5. Try to stop my direct debit on the tax and it won’t let me online as I need the V5. Sodding dealer hasn’t changed it so I need to call them. Ugh.


If you sold it to a dealer, they should have given you the yellow bit so you can cancel your tax. A dealer won't change the v5 until they sell the car, as it will add another owner to it.


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 Post subject: Re: Gas Guzzling Money Pits
PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 21:56 
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Can't you cancel the direct debit with your bank?

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From what I've read your insurance premium goes up a bit but it's not astronomical anyway.

Also, due to it's age and milage factor in a possibility of needing a new clutch. Fairly common for them to give up the ghost with the added torque.

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