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Author:  KovacsC [ Wed Dec 27, 2017 20:35 ]
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Can you not hire a car. Then you can get a different one every week.

Author:  Mimi [ Wed Dec 27, 2017 21:24 ]
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Or take taxis. Then you can get a different car each day *and* a chauffeur!

Author:  Dr Zoidberg [ Thu Dec 28, 2017 14:32 ]
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Not letting a bit of snow put me off.

Author:  Mimi [ Thu Dec 28, 2017 14:34 ]
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You have a nice hat.

Author:  Zardoz [ Thu Dec 28, 2017 16:46 ]
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Fucking hell, Hearthley. Why not get your next next car now and give yourself a couple months break?

Last door seal done yesterday so hopefully now the kids won't be paddling in the back.

POWERFLEXTM front strut bushes ordered. Old ones seem shot at judging by the different heights of the caps.

Author:  Hearthly [ Thu Jan 04, 2018 19:07 ]
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Took a Touraeg out for a test drive today. It's a nice 2011 example with the 245bhp 3 litre turbo diesel engine and 8-speed (!) auto, 46000 miles on the clock with a reasonable asking price of £17K.

Have to say I didn't really like it though, it was easy enough to drive and didn't feel stupidly big or ungainly, and once out on the open road it had a reasonable turn of speed and handled surprisingly well for such a big car (but still not great) - but even after just a few miles I found myself thinking 'I actually prefer the Leon to this'. (It's worth remembering that my Leon has the same engine that VW put in the Golf GTD, and it's kind of the same car overall as well, and VW pitch the GTD as a sporty car.)

Plus the tech wasn't quite up to scratch, obviously there's no Android Auto in a 6 year old car but it did have a reasonable touchscreen, however it was missing SD card slots and USB connectivity (opting instead for iPod and AUX connectors in the glovebox).

Oh yes and it reminded me that I don't like auto boxes, the DSG with paddles in the S4 was alright, but even there I think I'd have preferred a manual box. (On balance I think I'd like my next S4 to be the 6-speed manual.)

So in the end I didn't really see the point and it was a no sale scenario, but I chatted with the salesman for a while who's a nice chap (I've bought cars off him in the past, and I work with his brother) and mentioned I was after a B8.5 S4 or 'similar' car, which he said he'd keep in mind when they're choosing what to get in stock.

Overall then, big 4x4 isn't for me.

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Author:  Grim... [ Thu Jan 04, 2018 19:11 ]
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My dad's Touareg has an SD slot. It's in the central storage console somewhere.

The 6l W12 is a fucking riot.

Author:  Hearthly [ Thu Jan 04, 2018 19:18 ]
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Grim... wrote:
My dad's Touareg has an SD slot. It's in the central storage console somewhere.

The 6l W12 is a fucking riot.


I had a good poke around and couldn't find an SD card slot, although the one I looked at is the 'SE' model (which means Standard Equipment or just a nice way of saying 'base model', albeit a very nicely equipped base model with sat nav, front a rear sensors, auto-dimming mirror and suchlike). Maybe other models got SD/USB?

A mate at work has the earlier Touareg with the 5L W10 diesel in it, which is quite a crazy thing.

The SD/USB wasn't the main thing though, I've still got an old iPod I could bring out of retirement and just use that, it was driving it that I didn't find particularly enjoyable.

Also Touareg is a stupid name for a car and I keep spelling it wrong.

Author:  MaliA [ Thu Jan 04, 2018 19:49 ]
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EXCITING ROVER UPDATE!!!

Clock repaired itself!

Author:  myp [ Thu Jan 04, 2018 19:57 ]
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Probably your judicious use of ice mode during the winter that did it.

Author:  MaliA [ Thu Jan 04, 2018 19:59 ]
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Lonewolves wrote:
Probably your judicious use of ice mode during the winter that did it.


It means it self repairs.

Author:  Grim... [ Thu Jan 04, 2018 20:18 ]
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Hearthly wrote:
Also Touareg is a stupid name for a car and I keep spelling it wrong.

Yes.

Author:  MaliA [ Thu Jan 04, 2018 21:39 ]
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Is a W12 two V6s?

Author:  BikNorton [ Thu Jan 04, 2018 21:49 ]
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6l W12 you say?

Sudden disregard of 'never vag again' rule in the offing!

Author:  GazChap [ Thu Jan 04, 2018 22:48 ]
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Hearthly wrote:
Have to say I didn't really like it though

Yeah, but you only drove it for a relatively short time. After a week you might like it, you should probably buy it just to be on the safe side ;)

Author:  Dr Zoidberg [ Thu Jan 04, 2018 23:03 ]
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MaliA wrote:
Is a W12 two V6s?


Pretty much, yes.
The VAG W12 is effectively two VR6 engines (or VR5s for a W10) sharing a common crankshaft.

Author:  BikNorton [ Thu Jan 04, 2018 23:54 ]
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Definitely looks like I won't be getting one of the newer AWD e63 AMG estates for a while, the cheapest second hand on autotrader is 80k!

I don't think the improved fuel economy from the small engine would ever make that 55k back.

Author:  BikNorton [ Fri Jan 05, 2018 0:01 ]
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I mean, in a fantasy world where I could even afford the loan repayments on that much.

Author:  Zardoz [ Fri Jan 05, 2018 10:23 ]
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BikNorton wrote:
Sudden disregard of 'never vag again' rule in the offing!

Image

Author:  Zardoz [ Mon Jan 08, 2018 11:04 ]
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Car failed MOT on track rod end ball covers. Not too bad. Getting new track rod ends fitted rather than just the covers and my front strut top mount POWERFLEX!!! bushes fitted next Saturday too.

Be nice to have my front suspension at the same height. :)

PSVR slipping further away from me...

Author:  Zardoz [ Fri Jan 12, 2018 12:25 ]
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Zardoz wrote:
Although I'm determined to squeeze 200k from my Leon so I can say in your face to Myps from an earlier post in this thread.

Hit the 120k mark today!

Author:  myp [ Fri Jan 12, 2018 12:43 ]
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The Merc is very close to 150k!

Author:  Zardoz [ Fri Jan 12, 2018 13:16 ]
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This is the highest mileage I've had in a car I've owned. Think I bought it with 78k on the clock.

Author:  TheVision [ Sun Jan 14, 2018 12:12 ]
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We're looking at buying a new car after my wife's accident. We haven't heard back whether the old car will be a write off yet but I imagine it will.

Anyway, we've seen this one...

http://www.evanshalshaw.com/search/Vehi ... k-WP12DXO/

Normally I'd take my dad to look at it and ask all the relevant questions but he's not well so I'm asking you lot. What do you reckon? What should I be looking out for?

Author:  Dr Zoidberg [ Sun Jan 14, 2018 12:14 ]
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That seems pricey for a 5/6 year old QQ.

Author:  TheVision [ Sun Jan 14, 2018 12:17 ]
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Does it? Is that because it's a 7 seater? Apparently they're not that common.

Author:  MaliA [ Sun Jan 14, 2018 12:23 ]
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TheVision wrote:
What should I be looking out for?


Check all tyes match. Ask why if they don't.
Check for spare wheel and toolkit.
Push each corner down and see if it bounces back normally.
On start up, and when running, look for non normal exhaust colors. Blue is bad.
Look under coolant cap, it should not look yucky.
Turn steering lock to lock and listen for crunching noises. There should not be any.
You will want all keys.
Bounce engine of rev limiter a couple of times when warm and listen for rattles.
Emergency stop it a few times with a light grip on steering wheel to see if it pulls left or right.
Accelerate hard a few times to see if it pulls ok. If it feels like an auto box looking for a geat,clutch is going.
Check big service interval times and costs like timing belts.
Run fingers undr wheel arches to look for rust.
Check previous mot for advisories.

Author:  MaliA [ Sun Jan 14, 2018 12:26 ]
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That Up! Gti looked a hoot on NuTop Gear

Author:  TheVision [ Sun Jan 14, 2018 12:26 ]
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Brilliant advice! Thank you.

Author:  MaliA [ Sun Jan 14, 2018 12:27 ]
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Try to gently wobble the exhaust with your foot, too.

Author:  MaliA [ Sun Jan 14, 2018 12:31 ]
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TheVision wrote:
Does it? Is that because it's a 7 seater? Apparently they're not that common.


Congratulations!

Author:  myp [ Sun Jan 14, 2018 12:49 ]
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Don't forget to kick every tyre!

Author:  TheVision [ Sun Jan 14, 2018 12:53 ]
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Lonewolves wrote:
Don't forget to kick every tyre!


Even the spare?

Author:  KovacsC [ Sun Jan 14, 2018 14:53 ]
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TheVision wrote:
Lonewolves wrote:
Don't forget to kick every tyre!


Even the spare?


Infact every tyre on the street..

Author:  Zardoz [ Sun Jan 14, 2018 22:41 ]
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What Mali said and:
Check the wingmirrors fold in and all the electrics (if any) work.
Test all windows and sunroof if it has one.
Dont look too keen. Be cheeky, offer them 35% less than on the window, then work up if needs be.

Author:  Grim... [ Mon Jan 15, 2018 1:10 ]
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Let it run, make sure the temperature guage works.

Check the heaters once it's warm, too.

Author:  Zardoz [ Mon Jan 15, 2018 10:38 ]
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Stick and move kid, hit the guy in the middle.

Author:  Kern [ Mon Jan 15, 2018 10:39 ]
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I tested one car and everything was going well until the rear view mirror fell off. Check for blutack.

Author:  BikNorton [ Mon Jan 15, 2018 22:25 ]
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Check that all the fault lights light then go out when you put it in accessories, except the engine one that goes off when you actually start it.

Author:  Sir Taxalot [ Mon Jan 15, 2018 22:37 ]
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Check if the parking sensors work

Author:  Squirt [ Tue Jan 16, 2018 14:14 ]
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General, hypothetical question. If you had a regular car - a boring, mid range, 4 door whatever - and drove it boringly, and always did the service and checked the oil and did everything you were meant to, and had good luck and never hit a stationary car on a motorway slip road, how many miles would you expect it to be able to do before it fell to bits ( or would cost more than it's worth to fix )? I've had cars that were rattly pieces of shit at about 100k miles, but i get the impression you can expect some to last much much longer.

Author:  markg [ Tue Jan 16, 2018 14:18 ]
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A lot of it depends on what sort of miles they are, 100K up and down motorways is a bit easier on a car than 100k weaving around town, more gear changes more braking and bouncing over speed bumps etc.

Author:  myp [ Tue Jan 16, 2018 14:23 ]
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Also for example, Peugeot engines are brilliant, but the electrics and chassis will fail around it long before it stops working.

Author:  markg [ Tue Jan 16, 2018 14:35 ]
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My BMW 320 has done 115K now and it doesn't rattle at all, but there are some expensive to change parts on cars that just can't be expected to last forever. So no matter how well engineered a car is once the mileage gets up you'll end up needing to change a clutch or something and depending on the value of the car you might just think that it's time to get rid before that happens.

e.g. I've got an oil leak right now that I'm hoping is *just* the valve cover gasket or the oil filter housing gasket. If it's either of those then I'll probably try and fix it myself because I'd get my old man to help out, I like working with him on things so it would almost be fun. But if I didn't have that option and had to pay a garage then I might think twice.

Author:  myp [ Tue Jan 16, 2018 14:37 ]
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I thought you had a Honda Jazz?

Author:  Zardoz [ Tue Jan 16, 2018 15:02 ]
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You get an idea of cars with good longevity by what you see on the roads and mileage on cars you see about on eBay / Parkers etc.

I'm on 120,000 in my Seat Leon TDi *touches wood* nothing major I've had to pay for so far. I try and do as much as I can, maintenance wise.

Author:  Zardoz [ Tue Jan 16, 2018 15:03 ]
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Lonewolves wrote:
I thought you had a Honda Jazz?

He bought a BMW kit for it.

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Tue Jan 16, 2018 15:11 ]
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I have won the rental car lottery. I think it’s a 6.2 litre V8, 455 horsepower, although I’m not sure.

Author:  markg [ Tue Jan 16, 2018 15:26 ]
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Lonewolves wrote:
I thought you had a Honda Jazz?

That's my wife's car, I just couldn't be bothered pointing that out to captain toryporsche.

Author:  myp [ Tue Jan 16, 2018 15:31 ]
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markg wrote:
Lonewolves wrote:
I thought you had a Honda Jazz?

That's my wife's car, I just couldn't be bothered pointing that out to captain toryporsche.

:DD

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