GazChap wrote:
V10, man.
Heh. Fair enough - it's an awesome engine, right enough.
I just wish they'd shoehorned it into the middle of an M3.
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| Author: | BikNorton [ Wed Nov 15, 2017 22:31 ] |
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Meh, my 535d estate still does. Just. Needs new injectors. |
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| Author: | Cavey [ Wed Nov 15, 2017 23:56 ] |
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Good call Hearthly. The Mk7 Golf R is a class act; you’re always going to be glad getting in - and out of it. It’s the default choice for good reason. |
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| Author: | Cavey [ Wed Nov 15, 2017 23:57 ] |
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GazChap wrote: M5 estate or gtfo Nah. Too big, too heavy. Great for hoofing it on the M6 (if you can stand the absurd fuel and running costs, the complexity and fragility), but the agile, handsome, vastly lighter and cheaper Golf R has it licked for driving pleasure. Handling is king. Small is beautiful. I’ve never understood your penchant for huge plutocrat barges, Gaz. |
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| Author: | GazChap [ Thu Nov 16, 2017 11:23 ] |
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V10, man. |
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| Author: | markg [ Thu Nov 16, 2017 11:27 ] |
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I really can't understand anyone buying an estate car unless they actually need one for something. It's just a shitter version of the normal car that's more of a pain in the arse to park. |
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| Author: | MaliA [ Thu Nov 16, 2017 11:32 ] |
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markg wrote: I really can't understand anyone buying an estate car unless they actually need one for something. It's just a shitter version of the normal car that's more of a pain in the arse to park. Or if you want the size of an estate car, with less boot space than a Cayman, get a Forester. |
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| Author: | MaliA [ Thu Nov 16, 2017 11:33 ] |
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markg wrote: I really can't understand anyone buying an estate car unless they actually need one for something. It's just a shitter version of the normal car that's more of a pain in the arse to park. The 306 estate boot was brilliant. I like having big boots. I can take more stuff to the tip. We once got 14 people in a Sierra estate when we hitch hiked back up from the pub in Perranporth up the hill. |
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| Author: | DavPaz [ Thu Nov 16, 2017 11:34 ] |
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MaliA wrote: I like having big boots. ... and he can not lie! |
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| Author: | Cavey [ Thu Nov 16, 2017 11:34 ] |
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GazChap wrote: V10, man. Heh. Fair enough - it's an awesome engine, right enough. I just wish they'd shoehorned it into the middle of an M3.
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| Author: | myp [ Thu Nov 16, 2017 11:40 ] |
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My V6 is in the garage. Probable exhaust issues.  It's been blowing a bit since I got it but nothing major. Then I was going down a country lane in pitch black last week when I slowed down for a car coming the other way. Except he didn't slow down so I had to ditch it on the verge. Turns out the verge was much lower than the tarmac and I scraped the underside of the car. After that I was getting a rattling sound when accelerating. On Tuesday the engine management light came on and I lost most of the power. Sigh. |
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| Author: | Cavey [ Thu Nov 16, 2017 11:42 ] |
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markg wrote: I really can't understand anyone buying an estate car unless they actually need one for something. It's just a shitter version of the normal car that's more of a pain in the arse to park. I used to have a salmon pink Mk 1 Renault Laguna estate, until relatively recently, 2007 I think (that's how I roll ). It was a wreck, I'd had it for years, it'd done nearly 200,000 miles on a 2 litre petrol engine.... man I loved that big old armchair! No handling pretence, it wallowed more than your average hippo, but it was just SO damn comfy, those deep velour seats and soft French suspension. And oh my word, the loading bay was HUGE, I never bothered to clear it out, I basically had everything permanently sloshing around the back that I could ever need; all my site gear, equipment, spare equipment, chairs for sitting on site, flasks, heaps of drawings and files - everything but the kitchen sink. The old girl ran forever and saved my bacon once, some wagon had dropped an entire wheel on the M6 at 3am, which I smacked into at 80mph (cheers then). Just an awesome, awesome old car, which to my eternal regret, instead of patching her up and fitting a recon engine, I thought I'd smarten up my act and buy a nearly new Mondeo Ghia X 2.0d, which was the worse car I ever owned, even worse than my first car, which was an £80 wreck. I abandoned the old girl in the end for £500, for a floozie who broke my heart and wallet.
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| Author: | Cavey [ Thu Nov 16, 2017 11:43 ] |
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Balls, sorry to hear that Myp.
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| Author: | MaliA [ Thu Nov 16, 2017 11:52 ] |
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EXCITING ROVER UPDATE! On Sunday I poured 4 litres of oil I found in the garage into it. On Tuesday, I was hitting 50mph up a road and quite a lot of the oil left through the exhaust. The road visibility was about 20m behind me as a result. It's done it again, a couple of times, but keeps going. I will pour more radweld into it, get the men to wash it for £3 and plug the doofah in to see what The Brain tells me. |
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| Author: | Dr Zoidberg [ Thu Nov 16, 2017 11:52 ] |
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markg wrote: I really can't understand anyone buying an estate car unless they actually need one for something. It's just a shitter version of the normal car that's more of a pain in the arse to park. My Octavia estate is far easier to park than the hatch as you get glass in the rear quarter instead of metal. |
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| Author: | Doctor Glyndwr [ Thu Nov 16, 2017 11:54 ] |
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My Omega had a towbar so was really easy to park. Go slowly backwards until something makes a bang and/or crunching sound. Simples. |
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| Author: | MaliA [ Thu Nov 16, 2017 11:54 ] |
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote: My Omega had a towbar so was really easy to park. Go slowly backwards until something makes a bang and/or crunching sound. Simples. I had to do similar against walls with the 306 as the boot didn't lock. |
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| Author: | DavPaz [ Thu Nov 16, 2017 11:58 ] |
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote: My Omega had a towbar so was really easy to park. Go slowly backwards until something makes a bang and/or crunching sound. Simples. I tried that. Caused bother. |
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| Author: | GazChap [ Thu Nov 16, 2017 12:02 ] |
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Cavey wrote: I just wish they'd shoehorned it into the middle of an M3. |
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| Author: | Grim... [ Thu Nov 16, 2017 12:10 ] |
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markg wrote: I really can't understand anyone buying an estate car unless they actually need one for something. It's just a shitter version of the normal car that's more of a pain in the arse to park. You sound like Mrs Grim..., who refuses to get an estate as they're so much bigger (and no amount of telling her that they sit on the same wheelbase and are exactly the same size will change her mind on that). I can't think of a single downside to an estate over a hatchback / saloon, except they cost a little more. For starters, they're far easier to park  Do they use more fuel? Maybe, I think they weigh a bit more. |
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| Author: | myp [ Thu Nov 16, 2017 12:13 ] |
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They also look shitter, with a few exceptions. Skoda Fabia for example, not the prettiest of cars to start with (sorry Jem), but the estate version is ungodly. |
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| Author: | markg [ Thu Nov 16, 2017 12:14 ] |
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A golf estate is nearly a foot longer than a normal golf, not sure how that is going to make it easier to swing round in a tight car park. But whatevs. |
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| Author: | Grim... [ Thu Nov 16, 2017 12:15 ] |
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Lonewolves wrote: They also look shitter, with a few exceptions. Skoda Fabia for example, not the prettiest of cars to start with (sorry Jem), but the estate version is ungodly. I like them on some cars, but others look dire, you're quite right. The Focus Estate, Jesus Christ. |
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| Author: | myp [ Thu Nov 16, 2017 12:17 ] |
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The only Audi I'd ever consider buying if somehow money became no object: 
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| Author: | Grim... [ Thu Nov 16, 2017 12:18 ] |
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I don't think the Skoda is bad at all. Wheels look a little small, perhaps.  Turns out it's the Focus Saloon that's ugly and I got confused. The estate isn't too bad. 
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| Author: | myp [ Thu Nov 16, 2017 12:20 ] |
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Yeah I was going to say I like the Focus. That Fabia isn't too bad. Maybe I was thinking of the previous one. Not sure about the Civic Tourer. |
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| Author: | MaliA [ Thu Nov 16, 2017 12:24 ] |
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Lonewolves wrote: The only Audi I'd ever consider buying if somehow money became no object: Bradford is swimming with these. Huh. £800 and vat a month. |
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| Author: | Zardoz [ Thu Nov 16, 2017 13:27 ] |
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markg wrote: I really can't understand anyone buying an estate car unless they actually need one for something. It's just a shitter version of the normal car that's more of a pain in the arse to park. Good god man, think of the planes! THE PLANES! You should totally get an estate car next. |
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| Author: | MrChris [ Thu Nov 16, 2017 13:32 ] |
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The Volvo estates used to regularly win the BTCC. Just saying. |
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| Author: | myp [ Thu Nov 16, 2017 13:37 ] |
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MrChris wrote: The Volvo estates used to regularly win the BTCC. Just saying. Ash Sutton's Subaru Levorg is pretty quick this year. |
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| Author: | MrChris [ Thu Nov 16, 2017 13:39 ] |
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Lonewolves wrote: MrChris wrote: The Volvo estates used to regularly win the BTCC. Just saying. Ash Sutton's Subaru Levorg is pretty quick this year. That is an abomination unto Nuggan. |
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| Author: | Findus Fop [ Thu Nov 16, 2017 13:49 ] |
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MaliA wrote: markg wrote: I really can't understand anyone buying an estate car unless they actually need one for something. It's just a shitter version of the normal car that's more of a pain in the arse to park. Or if you want the size of an estate car, with less boot space than a Cayman, get a Forester. For some mysterious reason, Mrs Fop is obsessed with getting a Forester. She has zero interest in cars, but really wants a Forester and is always excited when we see them on the road. I think it's because she thinks they're like the car the mum drives in Ponyo. |
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| Author: | MrChris [ Thu Nov 16, 2017 13:51 ] |
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Our next two cars (when we get back from S'pore) will be a LR Disco and a Daimler Benz Ferret Mk2. |
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| Author: | MaliA [ Thu Nov 16, 2017 14:13 ] |
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Findus Fop wrote: For some mysterious reason, Mrs Fop is obsessed with getting a Forester. She has zero interest in cars, but really wants a Forester and is always excited when we see them on the road. I think it's because she thinks they're like the car the mum drives in Ponyo. Briefly, on the one we have: Good: Visibility due to ride height. Cup holders. Flat boot floor. AWD. If you are in it, you don't have to look at it. Rear seats fold flat. Almost everything is labelled. Bad: 27mpg. Not a turbo one. New clutch was £600. 2 tyres and exhaust £500. Small boot. Stick a pushchair in and that is half space gone. We bought a dog guard to pile stuff up to roof. About 300 mile range between fill ups. Not a turbo one. No leg room in rear. Body roll hilarious. Speed sensitive steering feels disconnected from road. |
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| Author: | myp [ Thu Nov 16, 2017 14:19 ] |
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Better than the Rover though. I will probably get an Octavia vRS estate "eventually". |
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| Author: | MrChris [ Thu Nov 16, 2017 14:25 ] |
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Nothing is better than a Rover. Up to and including a very cheap MB CLS320. You can't beat brummie engineering. |
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| Author: | Grim... [ Thu Nov 16, 2017 14:39 ] |
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Findus Fop wrote: I think it's because she thinks they're like the car the mum drives in Ponyo.   That one? |
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| Author: | MaliA [ Thu Nov 16, 2017 14:46 ] |
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Lonewolves wrote: Better than the Rover though. As before: it gets me to and from work with the odd run to Buxton. It does this very cheaply. Aside from the battery draining stereo, since sorted, it hasn't stopped me from getting to and from work. The bits that aren't right haven't yet stopped forward motion, and mainly amuse me enough for me to not fix them. I'm not defined my the car I drive, and, in a factory car park where staff were made redundant, I don't want them to think I'm driving around in luxury at the expense of their mate's job. I didn't buy the car with my £660 as it was a Rover 25, I bought a 12 month MoT*. And it passed again, only needing £140 work, most of which was a tyre, buying another 12 months. I'm not sure why you hate it so much, apart from the fact it hasn't yet dieD, proving all wrong. *checked it prior to purchase by bouncing on each corner, lock to lock on steering, over speedbumps then bounce it off the limiter a few times to see what rattles. |
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| Author: | myp [ Thu Nov 16, 2017 14:47 ] |
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I don't hate it, I'm just laughing |
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| Author: | Findus Fop [ Thu Nov 16, 2017 15:15 ] |
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Grim... wrote: Findus Fop wrote: I think it's because she thinks they're like the car the mum drives in Ponyo. That one? ha, yep! Well, I thought it was that one. Might have been the car they drive in Totoro (not the cat bus, natch) |
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| Author: | Grim... [ Thu Nov 16, 2017 15:23 ] |
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| Author: | Findus Fop [ Thu Nov 16, 2017 15:26 ] |
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That's the badger! |
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| Author: | Jem [ Thu Nov 16, 2017 15:28 ] |
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Lonewolves wrote: They also look shitter, with a few exceptions. Skoda Fabia for example, not the prettiest of cars to start with (sorry Jem), but the estate version is ungodly. That's fine, I drive a Celica GT-Four these days 
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| Author: | Zardoz [ Thu Nov 16, 2017 17:44 ] |
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MaliA wrote: I'm not defined my the car I drive Well said. |
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| Author: | markg [ Thu Nov 16, 2017 17:53 ] |
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He doesn't get to choose. He's either the one with the Rover or the George Osborne-looking one. |
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| Author: | krazywookie [ Thu Nov 16, 2017 17:57 ] |
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MaliA wrote: EXCITING ROVER UPDATE! On Sunday I poured 4 litres of oil I found in the garage into it. On Tuesday, I was hitting 50mph up a road and quite a lot of the oil left through the exhaust. The road visibility was about 20m behind me as a result. It's done it again, a couple of times, but keeps going. I will pour more radweld into it, get the men to wash it for £3 and plug the doofah in to see what The Brain tells me. Head gasket! They go at 75k, calling it now! |
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| Author: | MaliA [ Thu Nov 16, 2017 18:04 ] |
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krazywookie wrote: MaliA wrote: EXCITING ROVER UPDATE! On Sunday I poured 4 litres of oil I found in the garage into it. On Tuesday, I was hitting 50mph up a road and quite a lot of the oil left through the exhaust. The road visibility was about 20m behind me as a result. It's done it again, a couple of times, but keeps going. I will pour more radweld into it, get the men to wash it for £3 and plug the doofah in to see what The Brain tells me. Head gasket! They go at 75k, calling it now! You called 70k last year! You can't move it when I am 2.5k away from 70001! |
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| Author: | krazywookie [ Thu Nov 16, 2017 18:57 ] |
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MaliA wrote: krazywookie wrote: MaliA wrote: EXCITING ROVER UPDATE! On Sunday I poured 4 litres of oil I found in the garage into it. On Tuesday, I was hitting 50mph up a road and quite a lot of the oil left through the exhaust. The road visibility was about 20m behind me as a result. It's done it again, a couple of times, but keeps going. I will pour more radweld into it, get the men to wash it for £3 and plug the doofah in to see what The Brain tells me. Head gasket! They go at 75k, calling it now! You called 70k last year! You can't move it when I am 2.5k away from 70001! That's what I meant! Pretty close though |
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| Author: | Cavey [ Thu Nov 16, 2017 19:49 ] |
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GazChap wrote: Cavey wrote: I just wish they'd shoehorned it into the middle of an M3. Oh........................................................................................................... mate. Thanks one of the best sounds I have ever, ever heard, and not just any old M3, but **THE** M3 - the peerless E46 (like, of course). Nasty thoughts like 'nose heavy' and 'upset weight distribution' enter my head, but really, that's just bloody superb. Looks ace as well, hella car. Cheers Gaz, you just made my day.
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| Author: | Hearthly [ Thu Nov 16, 2017 20:20 ] |
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Cavey wrote: Good call Hearthly. The Mk7 Golf R is a class act; you’re always going to be glad getting in - and out of it. It’s the default choice for good reason. The only issue is that this is a somewhat meanly specced example. (Not that any of the Rs are 'low spec' as it's the top of the range Golf.) However, it doesn't have nav which is no biggy except the upgraded audio package comes with the nav, doesn't have the reversing camera, doesn't have keyless (I can live with that..... ), and doesn't have DCC, which are the adjustable dampers, although in fairness DCC isn't a common option.I'll see what he can do with the numbers and take it from there, and see how it fares on a proper test drive, of course. |
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| Author: | Cavey [ Fri Nov 17, 2017 0:35 ] |
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The only things I’d miss there are the upgraded stereo (the standard one sucks balls and wouldn’t be out of place in a £12k Polo, cheers VW), and if being very picky, the variable damping. Who uses car satnavs these days? They’re dogshit; Waze/Spotify all the way. |
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