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Author:  DavPaz [ Tue Jun 13, 2017 11:29 ]
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Hearthly wrote:
That bloody Merc..... <shudders>....... :D


Giphy "no sympathy":
https://media1.giphy.com/media/3oKIPgSaHc35qrfujS/giphy-loop.mp4
Author:  DavPaz [ Tue Jun 13, 2017 11:30 ]
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Fucking *hell* giphy, you suck!
Author:  Hearthly [ Tue Jun 13, 2017 11:31 ]
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giphy knows whose side to be on.
Author:  TheVision [ Tue Jun 13, 2017 11:39 ]
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You say it was a bloody Merc, but I think it's my favourite car that I've never owned as I did find it most amusing to hear your updates on it.
Author:  Cavey [ Tue Jun 13, 2017 11:47 ]
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Giphy "smoker":
https://media0.giphy.com/media/myyh5OAsGeGUo/giphy-loop.mp4[/quote]

Gah. That's pretty crap. :(
Author:  Grim... [ Tue Jun 13, 2017 12:18 ]
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If you do 100,000 miles in that Audi, you'll spend £1,873 on oil.

That's... That's a lot.
Author:  Cavey [ Tue Jun 13, 2017 12:49 ]
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Plus, let's be honest, most people are too lazy and/or disorganised (very much including me) to organise some internet bulk buy of cheap oil or whatever, we'd just reach for the (£20) litre of Helix ultra or whatever in the Shell garage. In which case, I guess that figure goes up considerably - and it doesn't include actual scheduled oil change costs either? :S

Still say this sounds well excessive to me, and if it were me having to fork out/constantly fill the oil, I'd be a bit miffed.
Author:  Grim... [ Tue Jun 13, 2017 13:18 ]
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Nah, I based on this stuff, which is £28: https://www.amazon.co.uk/FUCHS-TITAN-5W ... ag=beex-21

I'm not sure I'd ever change the oil if it ate it at that rate.
Author:  Grim... [ Tue Jun 13, 2017 13:18 ]
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Has your new Porsche arrived yet, Cavester?
Author:  Cavey [ Tue Jun 13, 2017 13:51 ]
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Grim... wrote:
Has your new Porsche arrived yet, Cavester?


Had it yonks. :)
Going to the Ring and F1 Spa in September with Porsche, with all the GT3-RS big boys. :)
Should be fun getting 200 mph on the clock on the Autobahn, too.
Author:  MaliA [ Tue Jun 13, 2017 13:53 ]
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Cavey wrote:
Grim... wrote:
Has your new Porsche arrived yet, Cavester?


Had it yonks. :)
Going to the Ring and F1 Spa in September with Porsche, with all the GT3-RS big boys. :)
Should be fun getting 200 mph on the clock on the Autobahn, too.


What CDs you taking to listen to in it?
Author:  MaliA [ Tue Jun 13, 2017 14:41 ]
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Cavey wrote:
Grim... wrote:
Has your new Porsche arrived yet, Cavester?


Had it yonks. :)
Going to the Ring and F1 Spa in September with Porsche, with all the GT3-RS big boys. :)
Should be fun getting 200 mph on the clock on the Autobahn, too.


Wait, you know people that aren't us?!?!
Author:  Cavey [ Tue Jun 13, 2017 14:47 ]
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Surprising though that may well seem: yes. :D
Author:  myp [ Tue Jun 13, 2017 14:48 ]
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Cavey wrote:
Grim... wrote:
Has your new Porsche arrived yet, Cavester?


Had it yonks. :)
Going to the Ring and F1 Spa in September with Porsche, with all the GT3-RS big boys. :)
Should be fun getting 200 mph on the clock on the Autobahn, too.

Take me please!
Author:  Mr Dave [ Tue Jun 13, 2017 14:55 ]
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Lonewolves wrote:
Cavey wrote:
Grim... wrote:
Has your new Porsche arrived yet, Cavester?


Had it yonks. :)
Going to the Ring and F1 Spa in September with Porsche, with all the GT3-RS big boys. :)
Should be fun getting 200 mph on the clock on the Autobahn, too.

Take me please!

You Horndog
Author:  Cavey [ Tue Jun 13, 2017 15:01 ]
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Sorry Myp, Mrs C is already booked :luv:

Assuming you're not mucking about, though, sure we could get some Silverstone or Oulton action sorted at some point?
Author:  myp [ Tue Jun 13, 2017 15:03 ]
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Cavey wrote:
Sorry Myp, Mrs C is already booked :luv:

Assuming you're not mucking about, though, sure we could get some Silverstone or Oulton action sorted at some point?

I'd be well up for that. :)
Author:  Grim... [ Tue Jun 13, 2017 15:19 ]
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Ahem.
Author:  myp [ Tue Jun 13, 2017 15:20 ]
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Grim... wrote:
Ahem.

Only two seats, sorry mate
Author:  Grim... [ Tue Jun 13, 2017 15:23 ]
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I might have myself a "sports car" soon, so that's easily solved.
Author:  myp [ Tue Jun 13, 2017 15:28 ]
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Grim... wrote:
I might have myself a "sports car" soon, so that's easily solved.

What's wrong with the Puma? :D
Author:  Grim... [ Tue Jun 13, 2017 16:08 ]
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You sounds like Mrs Grim...!

Nothing, is the answer. It'll stay on the drive.
Author:  myp [ Tue Jun 13, 2017 16:10 ]
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So what "sports car" will you have?
Author:  Grim... [ Tue Jun 13, 2017 16:12 ]
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It's a secret.

But I'll give you a clue - it'll have a wankel engine ;)
Author:  myp [ Tue Jun 13, 2017 16:15 ]
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Grim... wrote:
It's a secret.

But I'll give you a clue - it'll have a wankel engine ;)

Then I know what it is. Probably. :D
Author:  MrChris [ Tue Jun 13, 2017 16:42 ]
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Rx8?
Author:  Grim... [ Tue Jun 13, 2017 16:43 ]
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Nope.
Author:  MaliA [ Tue Jun 13, 2017 16:44 ]
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Rx7
Author:  Cavey [ Tue Jun 13, 2017 16:45 ]
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RX7?
Ooh I hope so. Awesome, rare and bloody fast.
Author:  Cavey [ Tue Jun 13, 2017 16:45 ]
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Either that or some NSU rarity lol. :D
Author:  MrChris [ Tue Jun 13, 2017 16:46 ]
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RX7?
Author:  Cavey [ Tue Jun 13, 2017 16:47 ]
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... Looks like Kissyfur has me and Mali on ignore. :D
Author:  Zardoz [ Tue Jun 13, 2017 16:50 ]
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RX-8.
Author:  MrChris [ Tue Jun 13, 2017 16:50 ]
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Nah, just a dodgy mobile!
Author:  myp [ Tue Jun 13, 2017 16:50 ]
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MrChris wrote:
Nah, just a dodgy mobile!

RX-8 then
Author:  Zardoz [ Tue Jun 13, 2017 16:53 ]
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Ooo hang on, is the Wankel going in as a replacement?
Author:  GazChap [ Tue Jun 13, 2017 22:32 ]
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Not sure what's more unreliable tbh, the RX8 or the RX7 :P
Author:  Grim... [ Tue Jun 13, 2017 22:36 ]
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GazChap wrote:
Not sure what's more unreliable tbh, the RX8 or the RX7 :P

Trust me, I won't be keeping it for long :D
Author:  Sir Taxalot [ Wed Jun 14, 2017 1:22 ]
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It certainly will have a wankel in it.
Author:  Sir Taxalot [ Wed Jun 14, 2017 1:22 ]
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Bloody autocorrect...
Author:  Zardoz [ Wed Jun 14, 2017 9:38 ]
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Booked in for a remap next Thursday. Fingers crossed it gets the thumbs up on the health check.
Author:  MaliA [ Wed Jun 14, 2017 9:54 ]
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Grim... wrote:
It's a secret.

But I'll give you a clue - it'll have a wankel engine ;)


787B
Author:  KovacsC [ Wed Jun 14, 2017 16:45 ]
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New car time.. I can have a VW Golf GT or VW Golf GT EST

Basically get to chose the Colour and extras
Author:  markg [ Wed Jun 14, 2017 16:53 ]
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Hot pink with eyelashes over the headlights.
Author:  Grim... [ Wed Jun 14, 2017 16:55 ]
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markg wrote:
Hot pink with eyelashes over the headlights.

No! Fucking things. They destroy your paintwork!
Author:  MaliA [ Wed Jun 14, 2017 16:56 ]
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KovacsC wrote:
New car time.. I can have a VW Golf GT or VW Golf GT EST

Basically get to chose the Colour and extras


Tumeric yellow and a happy ending
Author:  markg [ Wed Jun 14, 2017 16:59 ]
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Grim... wrote:
markg wrote:
Hot pink with eyelashes over the headlights.

No! Fucking things. They destroy your paintwork!

What does he care? It's a company car, if he wants them he should have them.
Author:  Zardoz [ Wed Jun 14, 2017 17:19 ]
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How about a Golf?
Author:  Grim... [ Wed Jun 14, 2017 17:58 ]
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markg wrote:
Grim... wrote:
markg wrote:
Hot pink with eyelashes over the headlights.

No! Fucking things. They destroy your paintwork!

What does he care? It's a company car, if he wants them he should have them.

And they go "RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR" when you drive above about 40mph.
Author:  Hearthly [ Wed Jun 14, 2017 19:32 ]
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From the motorbike thread as it doesn't really belong in there - viewtopic.php?p=954723#p954723

Quote:
Yeah, whoever ran the engine in on your car was a fucking bellend and ragged it way past safe limits during the run-in period.

So instead of your piston rings making a proper seal in the cylinders, there's little bits that oil can seep through into the combustion chamber. I suppose if anything it should increase power slightly (more energy in the combustion?) but it's not good for the engine.

Similar fault on the early 140bhp 7th gen Celicas, although in that instance it was a manufacturing fault that made the piston rings weaken over time and become misshapen, allowing the oil to leak through. Worst case I ever heard of on that car was burning a litre of oil for every 200 miles.


I've done a fair bit of reading on this and opinion is divided on why the engine in the B8 S4 uses oil, (note the B8.5 (facelift) S4 doesn't, so Audi changed something but didn't tell anyone what it was), one school of thought is that Audi's 'gentle run-in' policy is actually the problem, and ones that were given a bit more beans from new don't exhibit the problem. (The rings harden better and quicker, or something?)

There is consensus however that once your S4's 'loss rate' has been established it won't get any worse or better, that's just how much oil your car is going to use, and certainly mine has been absolutely steady at 1400-1500 miles per litre top-up required.

Don't get me wrong, I'd much rather I didn't have to keep putting a litre of oil in it that regularly, even using the Fuch's oil off Amazon it's not exactly super-cheap (as you have to use oil that meets the VW/Audi spec, and aren't supposed to just chuck any 5W/30 oil in there), but it's not that much of a faff and it's not detracting from my overall enjoyment of the car (unlike the Merc and its various problems, which I was somewhat fucked off with after the same duration of ownership).

I went into S4 ownership with my eyes open, it was never going to be cheap car to own overall, if I'd wanted that I'd just buy a ten year old Ford Focus, so the oil 'situation' doesn't particularly bother me.

EDIT - Plus, I'll only have it for another 12 months or so anyway, like all cars in my life, it's just passing through really :D
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