It's just that I've never done it before. This isn't a windscreen wiper blade or a hub cab
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| Author: | DavPaz [ Wed Jun 07, 2017 8:45 ] |
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Humour a novice for a second, would you please, oh blessed gearheads... How easy is it to change your own brake pads and discs? My front passenger side brake is making a quite alarming grinding noise under brisk braking. Am I better just taking it to Kwik Fit, or can I do it myself with simple tools? |
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| Author: | markg [ Wed Jun 07, 2017 8:48 ] |
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If it was a choice between Kwik Fit and an untrained chimp I'd choose the chimp. It shouldn't be that hard but if you're unsure just take it to a garage. |
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| Author: | DavPaz [ Wed Jun 07, 2017 8:51 ] |
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It's just that I've never done it before. This isn't a windscreen wiper blade or a hub cab
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| Author: | MaliA [ Wed Jun 07, 2017 8:53 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Gas Guzzling Money Pits |
DavPaz wrote: Humour a novice for a second, would you please, oh blessed gearheads... How easy is it to change your own brake pads and discs? My front passenger side brake is making a quite alarming grinding noise under brisk braking. Am I better just taking it to Kwik Fit, or can I do it myself with simple tools? My car mainatainance has changed of late. Now, it is: MrsA says I can try anything where the worst result is "grinding to a halt in the rain, the engine having lunched itself", and most likely result is "engine doesn't work". That way, I'm not messing about with stuff that is preventing them from ending up in an river. However, that said, youtube guides are really useful, and a Haynes manual will sort you out, too. I bought disks and pads for big car, then MrsA got local garage to fit them as I was "too busy". My re collection was it seemed fairly straightforward, but watch the caliper doesn't snap shut. Edit: http://www.justanswer.com/car/1m0pk-cha ... casso.html |
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| Author: | myp [ Wed Jun 07, 2017 9:22 ] |
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DavPaz wrote: It's just that I've never done it before. This isn't a windscreen wiper blade or a hub cab It's about 2 hours each side. And easy to mess up if you're a novice (like me!). It's brakes dude, take it to a reputable garage. |
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| Author: | Dr Zoidberg [ Wed Jun 07, 2017 9:25 ] |
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I've done a few sets myself without too much trouble. The only specialised item you are likely to need is a brake winding tool to push the calliper back in. |
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| Author: | Grim... [ Wed Jun 07, 2017 9:38 ] |
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Much as I love to encourage doing your own maintenance on a car, I don't think you should do your brakes without some form of help the first time. If you can get a mate over who knows what [s]he is doing, then that would be perfect. Otherwise take it to a friendly local garage. Stay the hell away from Kwik Fit. |
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| Author: | myp [ Wed Jun 07, 2017 9:41 ] |
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Grim... wrote: Much as I love to encourage doing your own maintenance on a car, I don't think you should do your brakes without some form of help the first time. If you can get a mate over who knows what [s]he is doing, then that would be perfect. Otherwise take it to a friendly local garage. Stay the hell away from Kwik Fit. All of  I thought about it myself and even tried to enlist an experienced friend, but he said he's not keen on doing brakes. |
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| Author: | Mr Russell [ Wed Jun 07, 2017 9:45 ] |
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What's wrong with Kwik Fit? |
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| Author: | DavPaz [ Wed Jun 07, 2017 9:46 ] |
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Mr Russell wrote: What's wrong with Kwik Fit? Same question |
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| Author: | myp [ Wed Jun 07, 2017 9:47 ] |
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DavPaz wrote: Mr Russell wrote: What's wrong with Kwik Fit? Same question Seriously? |
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| Author: | Grim... [ Wed Jun 07, 2017 9:48 ] |
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They're PC World, but for cars. |
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| Author: | myp [ Wed Jun 07, 2017 9:53 ] |
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Grim... wrote: They're PC World, but for cars. Back before I knew better, I took my Civic Sport there for an MOT. They insisted I needed new brakes AND discs. The car wasn't two years old and had done under 10,000 miles. Of course being an idiot I paid up. Last time I used them was because I was in a bind and my MOT had run out on the Clio and I hadn't noticed. I took it to the Kwik Fit over the road from my house and they said again I needed new brakes and discs. I had had the discs replaced only a month previously. I told them this and they looked at the discs again and said "ah yeah, actually the discs are ok". Fucking shysters. |
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| Author: | Grim... [ Wed Jun 07, 2017 9:56 ] |
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Lonewolves wrote: Grim... wrote: They're PC World, but for cars. The car wasn't two years old and had done under 10,000 miles. Of course being an idiot I paid up. Considering you don't need to MOT a car until it's three years old you really were an idiot! |
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| Author: | DavPaz [ Wed Jun 07, 2017 10:02 ] |
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Lonewolves wrote: DavPaz wrote: Mr Russell wrote: What's wrong with Kwik Fit? Same question Seriously? I've never had any dealings with them myself, but MrsPaz had a service done there recently. Didn't get a scummy vibe from them. |
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| Author: | markg [ Wed Jun 07, 2017 10:04 ] |
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Last time I used Kwik Fit I needed a battery in a hurry (I thought that even they wouldn't be able to fuck that up), they fitted one that was too small and then didn't secure it so unbeknownst to me it was sliding around and damaged the wiring loom. I don't know how they get away with it really, being so big and so shit I'm surprised they've not a had a few deaths on their hands by now. |
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| Author: | myp [ Wed Jun 07, 2017 10:05 ] |
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Grim... wrote: Lonewolves wrote: Grim... wrote: They're PC World, but for cars. The car wasn't two years old and had done under 10,000 miles. Of course being an idiot I paid up. Considering you don't need to MOT a car until it's three years old you really were an idiot! Ah yeah, I was misremembering. It was its first MOT so must have been 3 years old. Still had only done about 15k miles though. |
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| Author: | GazChap [ Wed Jun 07, 2017 10:07 ] |
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Not all Kwik Fits are shysters, the one nearest to me when I lived in Shrewsbury was awesome and was run by a bloke who really knew his stuff and made sure that his staff were not doing any of this upselling stuff, even when Head Office were pressuring them. |
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| Author: | GazChap [ Wed Jun 07, 2017 10:09 ] |
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markg wrote: I don't know how they get away with it really, being so big and so shit I'm surprised they've not a had a few deaths on their hands by now. I had a "free brake check" done by National back before I knew better. They did the whole "you need new discs and pads" thing, and as it was a relatively old car for the time and I had no idea of it's history, I let them do it. Paid up, drove off, and about 250 yards down the road there was a loud bump, the car jerked downwards and then I saw my front-left wheel go careening off down the road in front of me. Got my money back for that, the twats. |
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| Author: | myp [ Wed Jun 07, 2017 10:12 ] |
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DavPaz wrote: Lonewolves wrote: DavPaz wrote: Mr Russell wrote: What's wrong with Kwik Fit? Same question Seriously? I've never had any dealings with them myself, but MrsPaz had a service done there recently. Didn't get a scummy vibe from them. You won't. They're a very slick operation. But they will sell you things you absolutely don't need. Like Grim... says, imagine you went into PC World and they tried to sell you McAfee Antivirus for £100 or whatever - you'd laugh at them. This is what people who know about cars say about Kwik Fit. GazChap wrote: Not all Kwik Fits are shysters, the one nearest to me when I lived in Shrewsbury was awesome and was run by a bloke who really knew his stuff and made sure that his staff were not doing any of this upselling stuff, even when Head Office were pressuring them. I am not criticising the individual mechanics, but the company itself. By the fact their business model is based on upselling how can you trust them to tell you the truth about your car? |
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| Author: | Mr Russell [ Wed Jun 07, 2017 10:15 ] |
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So if I've been to Kwik Fit each time I had my MOT and it all passes each time and everything's fine then nothing to worry about. |
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| Author: | myp [ Wed Jun 07, 2017 10:19 ] |
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Mr Russell wrote: So if I've been to Kwik Fit each time I had my MOT and it all passes each time and everything's fine then nothing to worry about. No, it will be safe to drive. But they may be telling you to replace parts unnecessarily. I would recommend a good local garage instead. |
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| Author: | markg [ Wed Jun 07, 2017 10:21 ] |
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Finding one of those is not always easy either, though. |
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| Author: | myp [ Wed Jun 07, 2017 10:56 ] |
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markg wrote: Finding one of those is not always easy either, though. Absolutely not. It took me 12 years to find one I was happy with in Nottingham that wasn't a specialist miles away! But it's much easier these days with internet rating sites etc. |
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| Author: | TheVision [ Wed Jun 07, 2017 11:03 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Gas Guzzling Money Pits |
I'm lucky in that my local garage owner is friends with the family. My dad helped him out with some official paperwork when the garage sacked one of their workers. They didn't exactly follow protocol on that one until my dad stepped in. |
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| Author: | DavPaz [ Wed Jun 07, 2017 11:14 ] |
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At garage. The discs have really nice gouges in them. Full new set of front pads and discs needed. Ah well. They've done at least 20,000 miles while I've had the car, so it was a matter of time. |
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| Author: | GazChap [ Wed Jun 07, 2017 11:57 ] |
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Lonewolves wrote: Absolutely not. It took me 12 years to find one I was happy with in Nottingham that wasn't a specialist miles away! I've been burned so many times with the Celica that I absolutely only trust it with my friendly "local" specialist (98 miles away)
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| Author: | myp [ Wed Jun 07, 2017 12:02 ] |
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GazChap wrote: Lonewolves wrote: Absolutely not. It took me 12 years to find one I was happy with in Nottingham that wasn't a specialist miles away! I've been burned so many times with the Celica that I absolutely only trust it with my friendly "local" specialist (98 miles away)Mine is at the end of my road. 
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| Author: | BikNorton [ Wed Jun 07, 2017 15:25 ] |
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My beemer hasn't had new pads or discs in 30k miles/4 years. Dragging 2 tonnes to a standstill at all is no mean feat, never mind what I (*) make it do. In fact it's only had rear pads in all that time. Could be less front-biased than I'd expect, I suppose. They're certainly big discs back there. * Also people who cut me up. Three times yesterday, and the first was a bit of a clencher as they were doing about 40 to my 70-ish, downhill, when they did so without indicating or warning, with maybe two car lengths distance. |
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| Author: | Dr Zoidberg [ Wed Jun 07, 2017 15:35 ] |
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I've traded a car in at 80k miles still on original brakes all round. I'm up to 43k so far and they aren't particularly worn. |
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| Author: | myp [ Wed Jun 07, 2017 15:43 ] |
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If your discs are gouged at an early stage it's usually because you've ignored the screeching sound of metal against metal for too long where your pads have worn out. Or something has become lodged in between the pad and the disc. |
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| Author: | Jem [ Wed Jun 07, 2017 16:48 ] |
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Grim... wrote: If you can get a mate over who knows what [s]he is doing, then that would be perfect. I don't know owt about brakes but I love this 
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| Author: | TheVision [ Wed Jun 07, 2017 17:08 ] |
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The fact that Grim... Reckons he's got mates? I know. Bless him. |
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| Author: | Findus Fop [ Wed Jun 07, 2017 17:15 ] |
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Jem wrote: Grim... wrote: If you can get a mate over who knows what he is doing, then that would be perfect. I don't know owt about brakes but I love this I don't, I hate unclosed tags. That's better. |
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| Author: | Cras [ Wed Jun 07, 2017 17:18 ] |
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Oh man. BBCode jokes. |
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| Author: | Zardoz [ Wed Jun 07, 2017 17:22 ] |
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As mentioned above re doing your own brakes, you need a calliper tool to wind them back in. Luckily my sisters other half works for the council and can borrow quite a large selection of tools at weekend from the compound. I'll be doing my own front brakes after watching him do the rears on mine last time. A set of Brembo pads and disks from Mr Auto weighs in at £80 delivered (with a voucher code). |
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| Author: | Findus Fop [ Wed Jun 07, 2017 17:23 ] |
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Cras wrote: Oh man. BBCode jokes. AW CRAS YOU'RE JUST JEALOUS IT'S THE BB CODE. |
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| Author: | markg [ Wed Jun 07, 2017 17:43 ] |
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Zardoz wrote: As mentioned above re doing your own brakes, you need a calliper tool to wind them back in. Luckily my sisters other half works for the council and can borrow quite a large selection of tools at weekend from the compound. I'll be doing my own front brakes after watching him do the rears on mine last time. A set of Brembo pads and disks from Mr Auto weighs in at £80 delivered (with a voucher code). If we're ever driving anywhere in two cars I'll follow you. |
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| Author: | Zardoz [ Wed Jun 07, 2017 19:16 ] |
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*types* *deletes* *touches wood* Ok. |
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| Author: | Cras [ Wed Jun 07, 2017 19:17 ] |
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Let go of my wood. |
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| Author: | Bobbyaro [ Wed Jun 07, 2017 19:22 ] |
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And if it's one car, you're using Mark's. Kwik fit sold me me brakes after 5000 miles from new. I have always blamed the dealer for this. Until reading this page. It never occurred to me they would lie like that. Surely it is illegal? |
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| Author: | Zardoz [ Wed Jun 07, 2017 20:47 ] |
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*smells fingers* |
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| Author: | Zardoz [ Wed Jun 07, 2017 20:49 ] |
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Three things to consider before someone else says you need new brakes. Sound: Do they squeal / grind? Performance: Are you taking longer to stop than you're used to? Smell: Is the back of your keks like a sewer or summer meadow? |
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| Author: | Sir Taxalot [ Wed Jun 07, 2017 23:47 ] |
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My dad changed the brakes, both pads and discs, on my Fiesta when I was a young teen and I helped. It looked pretty straightforward - when everything was going smoothly on the first side.... But then, the disc on the other side was a real pain to get off. Luckily dad had a 'rotor puller' (I think it was called that, it was like a three pronged claw with a screw thread in the middle - it hooks round the back of the disc pulls evenly so it doesn't bend / snap / mess things up) and he knew what he was doing. Then, we had to bleed the brake line or something. It was during this that I realised, while I am happy to have a go with basic things, the critical stuff is best left to someone that knows what they are doing and has the tools needed (both for doing it easy, and also for responding if something goes wrong or gets a bit tricky). The feeling I hate is getting part way through and then getting stuck, with important things 'in bits' and not sure how to either proceed or return to the previous state. |
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| Author: | Grim... [ Thu Jun 08, 2017 0:58 ] |
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TheVision wrote: The fact that Grim... Reckons he's got mates? I know. Bless him. My dad helped me 
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| Author: | Mimi [ Thu Jun 08, 2017 8:05 ] |
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Grim... wrote: TheVision wrote: The fact that Grim... Reckons he's got mates? I know. Bless him. My dad helped me Aw
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| Author: | MaliA [ Thu Jun 08, 2017 15:04 ] |
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It begins. The Rover turned itself off in traffic this morning requiring a reboot. 40 minutes later, the fans died. |
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| Author: | MrChris [ Thu Jun 08, 2017 15:59 ] |
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Car felt a little rough on the last couple of miles home last night. got in the car this morning, and there was a hell of a rumbling -got 100 yards down the road, stopped, checked, and it turns out I had a flat. Not just a flat, but the tyre was migrating its way off the rim, inwards. Must have been a bit more than a couple of miles on it last night. Got back onto the driveway, jacked the car up, then the jack fell over as I was on a slope (I'd thought it'd be fine. It's not that steep....). Drove car out onto flat road, tried again. Got tyre replaced at friendly tyre place in town. |
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| Author: | Grim... [ Thu Jun 08, 2017 16:00 ] |
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Chock dem wheelz, son! |
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| Author: | myp [ Thu Jun 08, 2017 16:01 ] |
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MrChris wrote: Got tyre replaced at friendly tyre place in townKwik Fit. 
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